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1. Wise men who are not so wise
"We are wise” is connected with educated people, the learned elite, who made their own explanation of the written Law of Moses instead of following the written Law of Moses in the book Deuteronomy. The wise people who are not so wise had therefore a false possession of their interpretation of the Law of Moses [1]. Jeremiah is addressing the priests and false prophets. He accused them many times that they were destroying the country with their actions (Jeremiah 2:8, 26; Jeremiah 4:9; Jeremiah 5:31; Jeremiah 8:10).
This is a false preception since the text literally said pen , it is about manipulating the writtings not the explanation
lets look at the interpritation of the passage :
Yea, behold I for a lie hath it wrought - the lying pen of the scribes (so Authorized Version, margin). Soferim (scribes) is the term proper to all those who practiced the art of writing (sefer); it included, therefore, presumably at least, most, if not all, of the priests and prophets of whom Jeremiah speaks. There are indications enough that the Hebrew literature was not entirely confined to those whom we look up to as the inspired writers, and it is perfectly credible that the formalist priests and false prophets should have availed themselves of the pen as a means of giving greater currency to their teaching. Jeremiah warns his hearers to distrust a literature which is in the set-vice of false religious principles - a warning which prophets in the wider sense of the term ('The Liberty of Prophesyings') still have but too much occasion to repeat, tit is right, however, to mention another grammatically possible rendering, which is adopted by those who suppose torah in the preceding clause to mean the Mosaic Law: "Yea, behold, the lying pen of the scribes hath made (it) into a lie;"i.e. the professional interpreters of the Scriptures called scribes have, by their groundless comments and inferences, made the Scriptures (especially the noblest part, the Law) into a lie, so that it has ceased to represent the Divine will and teaching.
Source : pulpit commentary
So the text is clearly talking about false teachers and false prophets writting what they feel like . The text clearly mentioned scribe and clearly testifies to the corruption of the word of god by those false teachers and false prophets who were writting. This understanding and explanation from your part comes from the POSSIBILITY according to christian interpriters that maybe the word torah meant the Mosiac law which is false because everybody here knows that jews consider the torah to be the first five books of the old testament.
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2. False interpretation of the Scriptures
"The lying pen of the scribes" refers to the writers who tried to describe the Law of Moses in international acceptable wisdom. In fact the scribes tried to change the faith in the Most High into a human tradition [2]. “Scribes” is in Hebrew Soferim, it are all those who practiced the art of writing. They are therefore, if not all, of the priests and false prophets of whom Jeremiah speaks. The interpreters of the Scriptures called scribes have, by their false comments and inferences, made the Scriptures, including the Law of Moses into a lie, so that it has ceased to represent the divine will and teaching [3].
Next verse, Jeremiah 8:9 shows that the wise men will be very ashamed.
The contrast is between the written and oral Law of Moses. The oral explanation of the Law of Moses was done by scribes and educated and intelligent men, who changed the written Law of Moses according to the book Deuteronomy. Jeremiah attacks the false wisdom [4].
Already answered this above but the sentences in red show a contradiction in this response , actually it shows a slight manipulation which the writer tried to do by admitting first that they were writers and the word scribes means writers then calling those same writers as interpriters !!!!!
He wrote it this way to avoid the reader from coming to the conclusion which the simple reader might come up with which is that those scribes manipulated the actual writting !!!
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3. Conclusion
After a review of the Gospel verse the conclusion can be drawn that Jeremiah 8:8 does not say that the Bible was corrupted, but that false written commentaries were distributed about the Scriptures. The prophet Jeremiah warned not to follow false teachings.
A false conclusion based on a false interpritation of the clear text and contradicting the other interpritation
I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE that this answer does NOT actually answer this passage :
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محمد سني 1989
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"For you will no longer remember the oracle of the LORD, because every man's own word will become the oracle,
and you have perverted the words of the living God, the LORD of hosts, our God.
Jeremiah 23: 36
I think this passage is clear it said words not interpritations
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