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كلام ممتاز ارجو وضع الرابط
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السلام عليكم اخياقتباسالمشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة د/احمدالالفي
هذا الكلام موجود في كتاب بارت ايرمن
how jesus became god
عبد فقير يرجو عفو الله
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أخى الكريم هل ممكن أن تنقل لنا نص الكلام تحديدا ؟
( يا أيها الناس اتقوا ربكم الذي خلقكم من نفس واحدة )
ثم وصف تعالى ذكره نفسه بأنه المتوحد بخلق جميع الأنام من شخص واحد ، معرفا عباده كيف كان مبتدأ إنشائه ذلك من النفس الواحدة ، ومنبههم بذلك على أن جميعهم بنو رجل واحد وأم واحدة وأن بعضهم من بعض ، وأن حق بعضهم على بعض واجب وجوب حق الأخ على أخيه ، لاجتماعهم في النسب إلى أب واحد وأم واحدة وأن الذي يلزمهم من رعاية بعضهم حق بعض ، وإن بعد التلاقي في النسب إلى الأب الجامع بينهم ، مثل الذي يلزمهم من ذلك في النسب الأدنى وعاطفا بذلك بعضهم على بعض ، ليتناصفوا ولا يتظالموا ، وليبذل القوي من نفسه للضعيف حقه بالمعروف على ما ألزمه الله له (تفسير الطبرى)
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Judgment
But apocalypticists believed that when things got just as bad as they possibly could get, God would
intervene in a mighty act of judgment. In the previous chapter we saw that 1 Enoch described the
powerful Son of Man who would be a future cosmic judge of the earth. First Enoch embraces this
apocalyptic worldview and maintains that indeed a time will come when God will judge all the
powers of evil on earth and in heaven through his representative the Son of Man.
Other
apocalypticists too thought that judgment was coming, that God would destroy the evil powers
aligned against him and his people
Look again at the sayings given above. In none of them is there any hint that Jesus is talking about
himself when he refers to the Son of Man coming in judgment on the earth. Readers naturally assume
that he is talking about himself either because they believe that Jesus is the Son of Man or because
they know that elsewhere the Gospels identify him as the Son of Man. But nothing in these sayings
would lead someone to make the identification. These sayings are not phrased the way early
Christians would have been likely to invent if they, rather than Jesus, had come up with them
I think there are excellent reasons for thinking that Jesus imagined himself as the messiah, in a
very specific and particular sense. The messiah was thought to be the future ruler of the people of
Israel. But as an apocalypticist, Jesus did not think that the future kingdom was going to be won by a
political struggle or a military engagement per se. It was going to be brought by the Son of Man, who
came in judgment against everyone and everything opposed to God. Then the kingdom would arrive.
And I think Jesus believed he himself would be the king in that kingdom.
First let me go back to my earlier point about the disciples.
They clearly thought and talked about Jesus as the messiah during his earthly life. But in fact he did
nothing to make a person think that he was the messiah. He may well have been a pacifist (“love your
enemy,” “turn the other cheek,” “blessed are the peacemakers,” etc.), which would not exactly make
him a leading candidate to be general over the Jewish armed forces. He did not preach the violent
overthrow of the Roman armies. And he talked about someone else, rather than himself, as the
coming Son of Man. So if nothing in what Jesus was actively doing would make anyone suspect that
he had messianic pretensions, why would his followers almost certainly have been thinking about him
and calling him the messiah during his public ministry? The easiest explanation is that Jesus told them
that he was the messiah.
But what he meant by “messiah” has to be understood within the broader context of his
apocalyptic proclamation.
Jesus must have thought that he would be the king of the
kingdom of God soon to be brought by the Son of Man. And what is the typical designation for the
future king of Israel? Messiah. It is in this sense that Jesus must have taught his disciples that he was
the messiah.
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