That's not clear from the text...but I'll take your word for it.
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You should keep in mind that in Islam , Allah doesn't do or order something and then change it because he - exalted he is - found out the latter is better than the first , rather , it's because he chooses what fits certain people of certain places and times . That's why it later became forbidden to marry one's sister , something I believe the Bible says as well .
God in the Bible is unchanging, all knowing and just. I accept what you say about choices made for certain people at certain times and places. However.. God in the Bible never changes His mind to suit an individual person.
[QUOTE\]I could simply say "I have proof" but as said before , this isn't the subject right now .[/QUOTE]
Maybe this is not the time or place.. But where were you with your proof on the other thread on this topic? I was promised proof by another member, that proof was not produced.
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I know for certain that they are tested as well as humans . In regard to their purpose , wither I personally know or not doesn't matter because I do know that Allah is the most wise .
I don't think it requires a whole thread so I'll make it short .
While angels are created from light and humans are created from clay-sand-mud , Jinns are created from fire . They have a free will and thus are judge the same as us ...... well , that's about all I have on my mind right now . If you want specific information , just ask .
I may read up on jinns.. Out of curiosity. If they are not mentioned in the Bible then they are probably not that important to spiritual matters.
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We seem to differ on what we mean by "mind" . The point is that animals have a very limited intelligence . Still though , even animals glorify the almighty and exalt him :
17:44 The seven heavens and the earth and whatever is in them exalt Him. And there is not a thing except that it exalts [ Allah ] by His praise, but you do not understand their [way of] exalting. Indeed, He is ever Forbearing and Forgiving.
Mind.. Surely the ability to process information, weather the intelligence is limited is irrelevant. Human intelligence is measured differently from animal intelligence. The fact that some animals have a higher capacity for processing information shows that some form of intelligence quota exists within animals as a species. Doesn't mean it's comparable to man as a species. As God ordained for man to have dominion over animals then by Gods will a humans intelligence quota will always be greater. Everything animate or inanimate is made by and for the glory of God.
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NOT , an excuse . If so , none would be judged at all . Both mind and the good nature - Fitrah - lead people to truth . Only those who follow the ill desire would ignore the signs when they see them . And if you believe what you just wrote , why on Earth do you preach your religion ?
Because it's truth... ;)
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Missing the point here . As for the soul , Allah says :
91:7 And [by] the soul and He who proportioned it 8 And inspired it [with discernment of] its wickedness and its righteousness, 9 He has succeeded who purifies it, 10 And he has failed who instills it [with corruption].
And as for accepting prophet Muhammad peace upon him , I'm sensing skeptism on your part . Like the rest of prophets , we believe in him being sent from Allah , peace upon them all . Also keep in mind that Allah never wrongs anyone .
18:49 And the record [of deeds] will be placed [open], and you will see the criminals fearful of that within it, and they will say, "Oh, woe to us! What is this book that leaves nothing small or great except that it has enumerated it?" And they will find what they did present [before them]. And your Lord does injustice to no one.
So wither it's a teenager on their puberty , an insane person , a person who had the message of Islam presented in a wrong way , rest assured , Allah will judged each accordingly and he never does injustice to anyone .
This is your belief. I don't believe Prophet Mohammed was sent by YHWH except as a messenger to a particular people for a particular time. I agree that God does not deal in injustice.. As to do so would be against His divine nature. The Bible teaches that it is by grace we are saved and our good deeds are nothing but dirty rags before a Holy God. In other words we cannot save ourselves by our own efforts.. We know our limitations and our shortcomings. Our good deeds have to be born from love and a desire to please God. Not for any book of gains and losses.
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Maybe not in Quran but in Sunnah . That's all in Islam . Sacrifises can only be done with camels , cows , or goats and sheep . I might be inaccurate about the last two because frankly , I'm not sure if "Ghanam" includes one of them or both .
So it's a no brainer that you can't do so with a chicken . Or with non livestock for the matter .
Camels were forbidden as food or sacrifice in the Bible, don't know why they are allowed by Allah in the Quran. The sacrifice issue is null and void now as Jesus was the final sacrifice ... As we believe.. The Jews no longer sacrifice because they no longer have the temple and God decreed where and when they were to sacrifice.
Long thread ... With much info I will continue in another post. ..we seem to be veering off track.. :)
peace.
Originally Posted by نصير الدين
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