Greetings Sarah, you asked why a Christian believes you disrespect Jesus by referring to Him as son of Mary. I gave you an answer according to the Bible why it is so disrespectful. You do not like or agree with the answer that is your choice and one upon yourself to pay for. The Bible is the authority on Jesus weather you like it or not.


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Referring to Jesus as the son of Mary, is absolutely correct and in no way disrespectful, because Jesus, may peace be upon him had no father. God created him in a miraculous way, without a father. You say // Everyone has a father...// Not true. Adam, may peace be upon him, had no father and no mother. God does what He wills, He just says “Be” and it is.


It may seem correct to you because you have always believed it. May I ask how many other prophets in the Quran are referred to as sons of their mothers and not sons of their fathers? The fact Adam was created without a mother or father is totally irrelevant to the point in hand. To infer by the fact that because God created Adam without any parents somehow elevates him in importance to Jesus who had a human mother shows a lack of understanding about why the virgin birth was necessary or why Jesus was born of a human mother. I can understand your confusion because the Quran does address this most important issue. It recognises the fact of the birth but does not tell you why it had to be this way. Do you think God could have created Jesus as Adam was created as a fully grown man without recourse to either man or woman? Of course He could, because we understand that nothing is impossible with God. There's is a lot more behind the birth of Jesus than God just saying Be and it is.

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//However, as the Quran recognizes the virgin birth and Jesus as the Messiah whilst at the same time cannot accept that the father of Jesus was God.//
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The father of Jesus was not God. Jesus was created miraculously without a father. The term son of God is used metaphorically in the Bible as an expression to magnify people or to glorify someone on a certain occasion. Other people in the Bible are called sons of God too.


yes of course there are :) However, that does not detract from the way the term Son is used in relation to Jesus. Or even Jesus' own claims by speech and actions.

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I’ll leave you with these verses from the Quran for now :)
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They said, "The Most Gracious has begotten a son"! You have uttered a gross blasphemy. The heavens are about to shatter, the earth is about to tear asunder, and the mountains are about to crumble. Because they claim that the Most Gracious has begotten a son. It is not befitting the Most Gracious that He should beget a son. Every single one in the heavens and the earth is a servant of the Most Gracious. He has encompassed them, and has counted them one by one. All of them will come before Him on the Day of Resurrection as individuals. [19:88-95].


You do indeed utter blasphemy by making this claim. Begotten as it implies the term here is not how the term begotten is understood in the Bible. I am at least grateful that you did not share Sura 72:3 where it mentions wife in relation to God...!!!! That is blasphemy, and no Christians have ever believed it. Which strangely I think God would have known that fact.

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"He [Jesus] said: 'I am indeed a servant of God. He has given me revelation and made me a prophet; He has made me blessed wheresoever I be; and He has enjoined on me prayer and charity as long as I live. He has made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable. So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)!' Such was Jesus the son of Mary. It is a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, 'Be,' and it is" [19:30-35].
That's why I believe the words of Jesus in the Bible over the Quran. Unless the translation suffers from Arabic to English, this sura makes no sense why Jesus would say such things. Jesus and Isa in the Quran bear no resemblance to each other that I can tell. Jesus was the only sinless being to walk this earth... As lying is a sin we can take it as read that Jesus never lied and always told the truth. So I will have to go with the words of Jesus Himself on this one. :)

Anyway, this thread is about the evidence of prophecy... I feel we have gone off on a tangent here.. Oops .. I'm always doing that. My bad. :)

blessings