Evidence of prophecy

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I did not say you seek to validate the Quran's message by the Bible. You do however use the Bible to validate Mohammed's credentials as a Prophet... You do this every time you make a claim that Mohammed was mentioned in either the Torah or the Gospels. This despite the fact you make claims of corruption against the very scriptures you erroneously use. Why it is important to you to find prophecies of Mohammed in the Bible is a point I do not understand.....

Well as I said in my whole reply, we believe there is some truth left, and the Quran tell us, that the name is there, so it is there. You do not believe it, you are within your right to do so but I just explained why we do.

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There is no ambiguity or vagueness in the Bible, it's message is also as clear as crystal.

We will see, maybe you can explain it for me.

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I know of no Christians who have been brought up to hate Islam.. That is a strange claim to make but I expect you have good cause and evidence of such a claim..

People can say something and do the opposite of what they are saying, as they say “actions speak louder than words”.

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God placed this obligation upon us. Truth is subjective to the individual, in matters of faith we rely on God to guide us.

I hope you do as you preach, and stand by what you have said.

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There is no need to be rude or condescending.. I think it's counterproductive... If you have your evidence then bring it on, don't just talk about it.

What so rude about been in bubble word?? maybe bad choice of word, I try not to be intimidating next time.

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May I please request no You Tube videos.

No youtube, any other requests?

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You mention Kenneth Cragg below, it would be good if you knew a but about the author, very often muslims just grab the first favourable quote that suits their purpose. A lot can be learnt from the author and aim of the article in question... Like their motives. No offence, and I have the utmost respect for the right Reverend Kenneth Cragg, first and foremost he was an Anglican priest. He has written many interesting articles on Islam, you should look some of them up.

I know exactly who is Kenneth Cragg, most Orientals were not fair about Islam BUT there are facts, even haters cannot deny. For example, if someone hate you Pandora, and says all the bad things about you, even if they were not true But then he says facts, for example Pandora is tall, that is a fact he cannot deny, and does not really matter what else he says. The oral transmission of the Quran is a FACT, no religion can compete and bring something like it.

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Lot was never a Bible Prophet, but simply a righteous man. As to why the Quran views the Prophets differently I don't know.. I do see by doing so the bigger picture is lost. But as I have the stories of the Biblical Prophets in what to me is their true colours, then how you view them is entirely your concern. You should be careful throwing such claims as blasphemy about, just because you do not see something the same way. The Bible Prophets each and every one is held in high esteem by all Christians and Jew

I think you saw the other thread and you were disappointed, not great acts from normal people let alone prophets of God, I will not dwell in this too much as I take it is sensitive subject but I would love to know your input on it but we will leave it to last.

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. Yet a lie can be authentic.. Can it not?

You have to explain this!

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. The Bible has much historical and archeological proofs for its authenticity and has hundreds of thousands of manuscripts to call upon for verification... Indeed far more than the Quran has

That is part of the subject we will talk about.

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. Well, I speak for myself and I don't answer for others

Fair enough

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. They are accountable for their own actions. We are all free to think and act according to our individual conscious are we not?

According to me of course but are you sure about that?

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Look.. I feel we are already going nowhere fast here.. Let's be clear.....

I thought we were getting along like house on fire!

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I have no wish to attempt to prove your belief in Islam is misplaced...... [/QUOTE]

You wish to prove it but you cannot, and it is within your right to do so.

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L The Bible Prophets each and every one is held in high esteem by all Christians and Jews.

Really ?

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Apart from the few things attributed to Isa in the Quran

What did the Quran say about Jesus that is bad? He is honored mighty messenger of God and his mother the best women of this world!

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I wonder if you have ever read any of the teachings of Jesus......

Teaching of Jesus peace be upon him?? According to the bible?? Which Jesus, the one for the old testament or the new testament, as there is two different personalities emerges.

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t's immaterial to any dialogue as to what Christian denomination I am.. Any more than what type of Muslim denomination you are.

Of course it does, not disrespect but some domination have more books that consider the bible, as for me the forum is for Sunni, so it not a secret.