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You ask how is prophet Muhammed like prophet Moses??? Well they are a lot in many ways
1. They both came with a law
2. They both migrated from their homeland
3. They both were revealed to in a cave
4. They waged wars
5. They both ruled their people
6. They are both from a natural birth (not virgin for the sake of argument)
7. They both married and had children
8. They both were revealed to at an old age
9. They both came with a holy book (torah and Quran) as an individual book at its time not a fullfillement
10. They both were raised orphans (separate from their biological parents)
11. Prophet muhammed and moses both has moral AND physacal victory
God spoke to prophet muhammed as he spoke to many prophets by gabriel, Jesus as WE believe was communicated by gabriel too and spoken to god face to face
Mohammed did author a covenant as all prophets did :
And [mention, O Muhammad], when We took from the prophets their covenant and from you and from Noah and Abraham and Moses and Jesus, the son of Mary; and We took from them a solemn covenant.33:7 Quran
If jesus was a prophet as WE claim then trinity is destroyed , however Moses as muslims we belive he did write about jesus but apparantly not in the current so called Torah , Jesus in this case is not similar to moses especially for the fact that jesus according to your belief made the law a curse (as paul Said) and that the law is not required of gentiles!!!!
AS I said this passage refers to the ishmaelites as god stated in genesis:
Genesis (17:20):” As for Ishmael, I am heeding you: I hereby bless him. I will make him fertile and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall become the father of twelve chieftains, and I will make of him a great nation.”
A great nation as defined by the bible:
6 Observe them carefully, for thus will you give evidence of your wisdom and intelligence to the nations, who will hear of all these statutes and say, 'This great nation is truly a wise and intelligent people.'
7 For what great nation is there that has gods so close to it as the LORD, our God, is to us whenever we call upon him?
8 Or what great nation has statutes and decrees that are as just as this whole law which I am setting before you today?”
Deutronomy 4: 6-8
So a great nation in the bible is one which worships god alone and has the law of god which applies to the arabs in the prophecy of genesis
This is affirmed by jesus when he tells the israelites:
Matthew (21:43) “Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Same term nation which are ishmaelites
Again I state other incients where the jews and the crowd in jerusalim were talking about the prophet or the messiah two awaited characters:
John, chapter 7:”
40 Some in the crowd who heard these words said, "This is truly the Prophet."
41 Others said, "This is the Messiah." But others said, "The Messiah will not come from Galilee, will he?
John, chapter 1:”
19 And this is the testimony of John. When the Jews from Jerusalem sent priests and Levites (to him) to ask him, "Who are you?"
20 he admitted and did not deny it, but admitted, "I am not the Messiah."
21 So they asked him, "What are you then? Are you Elijah?" And he said, "I am not." "Are you THE PROPHET?" He answered, "No." “
Why would the jews make that distiction between the charecter of the messiah and a certain awaited prophet???
Second the context of the passage describes three prophecies :
1. against babylon
2. against edom
3. against Arabia
However a closer look shows multiple prophecies about jesus and muhammed peace be upon them , the context does not actually say a prophecy against babylon , rather a prophecy against the desert by the sea , This whole passage is reffering to multiple prophecies at multiple times . All christians belive that :
"And he saw a chariot [with] a couple of horsemen, a chariot of asses, [and] a chariot of camels .." (Isaiah 21:7)
The chariot of asses refers to : "And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written," (John 12:14)
If so this would make the chariot of camels riders as prophet muhammed
As for the description of Babylon :
And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, [with] a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground." (Isaiah 21:9)
The fall of babylon refers to its idols or the idol worshipping , you can't argue with me on this since most prophcies in the book of revelation about babylon also is retorical , the text also from its context is clearly reffering to idol worship
Also it is important to note that in the king james version it is not a prophecy against Arabia rather a Burdon on Arabia:
The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim.
Isaiah 21: 13
The case about genesis and the covinant I already mentioned above
You still have not answered about other prophecies including the name of the prophet in the OT
Peace



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