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  • #16

    Moreover, when he got informed of the murdering of his teacher and baptizer, Yehia PBUH, we find him, as scribers of gospels mention as well, heading to the wilderness with his disciples uncaringly as they spent there sometime eating and drinking light-heartedly not shedding a tear as if nothing happened! Above all, the devil got so gluttonous in tempting him, so he led him here and there and kept moving him from the top of the mountain to the middle of the wilderness to the top of the temple demanding him to perform so and so of such strange demands contradictory to faith which the Christians call a trial of the devil for him! How by God would Satan be that gluttonous for him? I wonder if the father of devils got so aged that he no more could discern visuals and he no longer could see that he was dealing with God Himself not with a human being! How that God did not warn him and say to him: O fellow, retain a grain of salt in your face (i.e. have or show some good manners, this is a shameful behaviour and is not becoming of you to act like this”? Then He would slap him (Satan) on the face causing his eyes to glow flamingly exploding out of anger. Only then he (Satan) would know God indeed and would never repeat this again. Rather, how he (God) obeyed the father of devils and followed him wherever he took him and wherever he led him? Rather, how did PBUH assert that he did not come to contradict the faith? Then he would attack the religion immediately scribing this legislation or that of these legislations brought by Moses? All this is known for who read the gospels. It was not we Muslims who said this; rather, it was the scribers of the New Testament. Before all this, he, PBUH contradicted greatly the basis of his religion, its essence and the axis upon which it revolves when his enemies placed him on the cross according to what was stated in the Gospels not what we Muslims believe in as the Christians believe that he (PBUH) had come to salvage all mankind (all mankind not merely children of Israel about whom he repeatedly mentioned that he had come only for them and in order to teach them neither to repent their sins nor anything at all of the sort). However, we find him panicking and filled with worry and sorrow; furthermore, on the cross he screamed and shrieked asking for help but there is no help indicating that he forgot his mission for which he had been sent to the Earth or at least he could not rise to its standard. This means that his behaviour did not conform to what he preached. If we should add to this what Christians said about his deism, we would know that the catastrophe is more devastating and worse. As this means that this god is too weak to avoid such error while he was the one who created among all that he created error and he could have avoided committing this error. This is in addition to being so feeble that he could not tolerate torture and pain while he was the one who created among all that he created torture and pain. He would have saved himself of feeling this torture and pain. If gods would err, feel pain and torture at the hands of whom? The hands of criminals of their creatures! How I wonder?! By the way, there were people among the ancestors of Muslims and their successors who confronted this kind of torture and tolerated it and were their victims without making a big fuss about it like this from their fellows and beloved!

    By the way as well we would not have liked to draw such a comparison, we think that the holy messenger would not be pleased by such talk, if …. Yes, if some Christians challenge Muslims by such comparison! We find for example this book, at hand here, published in the different Christian websites. In addition, some shredded priests provoke us in their websites messages to answer him and the like with the impertinent recklessness in obscenity of the holy messenger person. If the scribers of this book (this is a true testimony) are too careful not to descend to this rotten abyss, and this is what we feel grateful for them and its effect appears in our reply to them as the readers must have noticed. Therefore, we have to answer such provocations and challenges every now and then so that the readers, who are not completely aware of all aspects, do not think that it is a difficult challenge while they themselves see that there is no kind of difficulty despite the embarrassment I felt for what pain I unintentionally caused some Christian friends who correspond with us and with whom we share mutual kindness because this talk may have a bad effect on them no matter how broad their hearts and minds are. However, we depend on, despite this, their good judgment for the attack against the master of messengers, the prophet (PBUH) has become occupying the minds of each jobless bastard especially the shredded priest who floods me every while with varieties of books challenging me to respond to all of them. Whenever I refute some of what he sends of absurdities and obscurities and did not leave him a **** linked to another over tens of pages in an unequivocal crucial logic, he would simply say without bothering himself to answer anything of what we have written: let’s leave this and move to another, or that what I have written does not convince me like this, very briefly in only a few words, and that was the end of that, …. And nothing could be done about it.

    We would like these friends to forgive us and do not think that we are fond of hurting them; rather, we only wish to answer some of these challenges we have pointed out, only some that we feel would compensate for the rest and not all. Otherwise, we will not finish writing and talking and we will not be able despite this to cover not even one of thousand of what provocations that are raised. In addition, the other party does not bother himself to answer what we say and if he does, he would resort to lying, defamation, manipulation of stories. He does not interpret in detail as we do so that we leave no gaps in the subject without covering them; hence, they do not remain wide open like the blistered buttock of the priest! My greetings to you, priest!

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    • #17


      Among what the Christian preacher attempts to apply when distinguishing between the Messiah and his fellow prophet is his saying: “The Koran witness that all prophets and messengers have certain sins. It mentions the errors of some except the Messiah as he had always been innocent and chaste.”

      We would have wished that he mentions the sins which he claimed the Koran recorded for all prophets. However, he did not do it and the reason why he did not is because he does not say the truth. We do not mean to say here that this happened as lying and falsity on his part. Rather, we say that he did it out of forgetfulness or confusion between the Koran and the Bible which attributes to them such catastrophes of the heavy stuff that cannot be tolerated as if the messengers and prophets are a gang of bully criminals. Therefore, some of them are murderers, adulterers, drunkards, swindlers, incestuous, sharing idolatry, and among them are those preparing for and bless it for whoever wishes to practice it of their wives, and among them are those who compose voluptuous courting love obscene profligate poetry and among them are those who blaspheme against God, and so on… except for the Holy Koran which did not mention anything except about Moses when he unintentionally killed the Egyptian and immediately repented from God and Almighty God forgave him. Otherwise what he said against Zee El-Noun when he got fed up with his folk and was despondent of their reform so, he left them and went away. The result was that the whale swallowed him when he remained in its tummy suffering severe distress and anguish till God bestowed his mercy over him. This or that is not deemed as a sin as the murdering of the Egyptian was not meant but was committed erroneously and Moses remedied the whole situation at once and repented to God from the bottom of his heart regretting quivering seeking the protection of God against stoned Satan and intending to be more ***** in the times to come and never to be an advocate of atheists. God was good to him as he believed so He (God) forgave him because Almighty God knew that he was not to be blamed. Moreover, Zee El-Noun committed neither a sin nor an error. All he did was that he left his folk in despondency of reforming them after he experienced the worst at their hands while he invited them to his religion in vain. He should not have departed from them except after God allowed him to do so. This is all there is. There is no sin because prophets and messengers are the elite of God’s creation whom Almighty God chose them from among mankind. Thus, it does not make sense that they would be of this degraded criminal behaviour; otherwise, you may consider prophecy as obsolete. This absolutely logical because if prophets are not distinguished from others of people and were susceptible to fall in crimes and sins (not negligible errors which mankind can never escape entirely), then there is no need nor there is no sense of what is called prophethood and each prophet may go freely to take care of his own business, crying to the moon! Hence, the Koran’s neglect of mentioning the errors of Eissa does not mean that he was the only one among his fellow messengers concerning this; rather, this is the attitude of Koran towards all of them in general.
      We return as we promised to our preacher words about the prophet Mohamed PBUH : when Mohammed was a lad, two angels came to him and purified his heart. About this the Koran says:

      أَلَمْ نَشْرَحْ لَكَ صَدْرَكَ وَوَضَعْنَا عَنْكَ وِزْرَكَ الَّذِي أَنْقَضَ ظَهْرَكَ”- سورة الانشراح 1- 3
      Have We not opened your breast for you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)). And removed from you your burden. Which weighed down your back? (Surat El-Enshrah 1-3)

      Since then, he acquired the honored title AlMustafa as he was not pure and purged in himself; rather the two angels removed the burden from his heart to purge it. Mohammed PBUH required a surgical operation on the heart in order to purify and purge his soul before he became a prophet and messenger of Allah. Muhammed himself admitted this three times in the Holy Koran that he should have repented to God:

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      • #18


        “فَاصْبِرْ إِنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لِذَنْبِكَ وَسَبِّحْ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّكَ بِالْعَشِيِّ وَالإِبْكَار”- غافر 55.

        So be patient (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) Verily, the Promise of Allâh is true, and ask forgiveness for your fault and glorify the praises of your Lord in the 'Ashi (i.e. the time period after the midnoon till sunset) and in the Ibkâr (i.e. the time period from early morning or sunrise till before midnoon) (it is said that, that means the five compulsory congregational Salât (prayers) or the 'Asr and Fajr prayers).
        (Surat Ghafer – Verse No. 55)

        “فَاعْلَمْ أَنَّهُ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لِذَنْبِكَ وَلِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمُؤْمِنَاتِ واللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ مُتَقَلَّبَكُمْ وَمَثْوَاكُمْ”- محمد 19

        So know (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) that, Lâ ilâha ill-Allâh (none has the right to be worshipped but Allâh), and ask forgiveness for your sin, and also for (the sin of) believing men and believing women. And Allâh knows well your moving about, and your place of rest (in your homes).
        (Surat Muhammed- Verse No. 19)

        “وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِي أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِي فِي نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشَاهُ فَلَمَّا قَضَى زَيْدٌ مِنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا لِكَيْ لاَ يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِي أَزْوَاجِ أَدْعِيَائِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهُ مَفْعُولاً”- الأحزاب 37

        And (remember) when you said to him (Zaid bin Hârithah (may Allah be pleased with him) - the freed-slave of the Prophet (peace be upon him)) on whom Allâh has bestowed Grace (by guiding him to Islâm) and you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him) too) have done favor (by manumitting him): "Keep your wife to yourself, and fear Allâh." But you did hide in yourself (i.e. what Allâh has already made known to you that He will give her to you in marriage) that which Allâh will make manifest, you did fear the people (i.e., their saying that Muhammad (peace be upon him) married the divorced wife of his manumitted slave) whereas Allâh had a better right that you should fear Him. So when Zaid had accomplished his desire from her (i.e. divorced her), We gave her to you in marriage, so that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the believers in respect of (the marriage of) the wives of their adopted sons when the latter have no desire to keep them (i.e. they have divorced them). And Allâh's Command must be fulfilled.
        (Surat Al-Ahzab- verse No. 37)

        It seems that the majority of Muslims refuses this truth and interprets it as they like. However, Koran here is clear and speaks frankly. Mohamed was a natural human being born by two natural parents. Therefore, he led a life of instinct and he erred like us and repented to God for his wrongdoings and sins. As for the Christ he was born from the spirit of God and he was the embodied word of God and lived glorified and purged since his early childhood.”

        We start with the preacher’s interpretation of the Almighty God saying:
        نَشْرَحْ لَكَ صَدْرَكَ وَوَضَعْنَا عَنْكَ وِزْرَكَ الَّذِي أَنْقَضَ ظَهْرَكَ”- سورة الانشراح 1- 3
        Have We not opened your breast for you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)). And removed from you your burden. Which weighed down your back? (Surat El-Enshrah 1-3)

        Which he interpreted it to mean that the two angels came to him when he was a little boy cared for at the house of Halima El-Saadia according to what some writers of the Prophetic Traditions and they (the angels) extracted his heart, washed it, purified it and returned it to its first place. The truth is that if it was so, this would mean that Mohammed was purified before he committed any error. This in turn indicates that the messenger PBUH had a better luck than his brother Eissa who remained not baptized (i.e. he kept living in sin) till he exceeded thirty according to what is stated by scribers of gospels. That is baptism in Christianity means the purgation of the baptized of sins and helping him to repent. This is quite clear according to the following passage which we copied from the beginning of the third book of the Gospel of Mathew:
        "وَفِي تِلْكَ الأَيَّامِ جَاءَ يُوحَنَّا الْمَعْمَدَانُ يَكْرِزُ فِيبَرِّيَّةِ الْيَهُودِيَّةِ 2قَائِلاً: «تُوبُوا، لأَنَّهُ قَدِ اقْتَرَبَمَلَكُوتُ السَّماوَاتِ. 3فَإِنَّ هذَا هُوَ الَّذِي قِيلَ عَنْهُ بِإِشَعْيَاءَالنَّبِيِّ الْقَائِلِ: صَوْتُ صَارِخٍ فِي الْبَرِّيَّةِ: أَعِدُّوا طَرِيقَالرَّبِّ. اصْنَعُوا سُبُلَهُ مُسْتَقِيمَةً». 4وَيُوحَنَّا هذَا كَانَ لِبَاسُهُمِنْ وَبَرِ الإِبِلِ، وَعَلَى حَقْوَيْهِ مِنْطَقَةٌ مِنْ جِلْدٍ. وَكَانَطَعَامُهُ جَرَادًا وَعَسَلاً بَرِّيًّا. 5حِينَئِذٍ خَرَجَ إِلَيْهِ أُورُشَلِيمُوَكُلُّ الْيَهُودِيَّةِ وَجَمِيعُ الْكُورَةِ الْمُحِيطَةِ بِالأُرْدُنِّ، 6وَاعْتَمَدُوا مِنْهُ فِي الأُرْدُنِّ، مُعْتَرِفِينَ بِخَطَايَاهُمْ. 7فَلَمَّارَأَى كَثِيرِينَ مِنَ الْفَرِّيسِيِّينَ وَالصَّدُّوقِيِّينَ يَأْتُونَ إِلَىمَعْمُودِيَّتِهِ، قَالَ لَهُمْ:«يَاأَوْلاَدَ الأَفَاعِي، مَنْ أَرَاكُمْ أَنْتَهْرُبُوا مِنَ الْغَضَب الآتِي؟ 8فَاصْنَعُوا أَثْمَارًا تَلِيقُ بِالتَّوْبَةِ. 9وَلاَ تَفْتَكِرُوا أَنْ تَقُولُوا فِي أَنْفُسِكُمْ: لَنَا إِبْراهِيمُ أَبًا. لأَنِّي أَقُولُ لَكُمْ: إِنَّ اللهَ قَادِرٌ أَنْ يُقِيمَ مِنْ هذِهِ الْحِجَارَةِأَوْلاَدًا لإِبْراهِيمَ. 10وَالآنَ قَدْ وُضِعَتِ الْفَأْسُ عَلَى أَصْلِالشَّجَرِ، فَكُلُّ شَجَرَةٍ لاَ تَصْنَعُ ثَمَرًا جَيِّدًا تُقْطَعُ وَتُلْقَى فِيالنَّارِ. 11أَنَا أُعَمِّدُكُمْ بِمَاءٍ لِلتَّوْبَةِ، وَلكِنِ الَّذِي يَأْتِيبَعْدِي هُوَ أَقْوَى مِنِّي، الَّذِي لَسْتُ أَهْلاً أَنْ أَحْمِلَ حِذَاءَهُ. هُوَ سَيُعَمِّدُكُمْ بِالرُّوحِ الْقُدُسِ وَنَارٍ. 12الَّذِي رَفْشُهُ فِييَدِهِ، وَسَيُنَقِّي بَيْدَرَهُ، وَيَجْمَعُ قَمْحَهُ إِلَى الْمَخْزَنِ، وَأَمَّاالتِّبْنُ فَيُحْرِقُهُ بِنَارٍ لاَ تُطْفَأُ».13حِينَئِذٍ جَاءَ يَسُوعُ مِنَالْجَلِيلِ إِلَى الأُرْدُنِّ إِلَى يُوحَنَّا لِيَعْتَمِدَ مِنْهُ. 14وَلكِنْيُوحَنَّا مَنَعَهُ قَائِلاً: «أَنَا مُحْتَاجٌ أَنْ أَعْتَمِدَ مِنْكَ، وَأَنْتَتَأْتِي إِلَيَّ!» 15فَأَجَابَيَسُوعُ وَقَالَ لَهُ:«اسْمَحِ الآنَ، لأَنَّهُهكَذَا يَلِيقُ بِنَا أَنْ نُكَمِّلَ كُلَّ بِرّ». حِينَئِذٍ سَمَحَ لَهُ. 16فَلَمَّا اعْتَمَدَ يَسُوعُ صَعِدَ لِلْوَقْتِ مِنَ الْمَاءِ، وَإِذَاالسَّمَاوَاتُ قَدِ انْفَتَحَتْ لَهُ، فَرَأَى رُوحَ اللهِ نَازِلاً مِثْلَحَمَامَةٍ وَآتِيًا عَلَيْهِ، 17وَصَوْتٌ مِنَ السَّمَاوَاتِ قَائِلاً:« هذَا هُوَابْني الْحَبِيبُ الَّذِي بِهِ سُرِرْتُ»".
        3:1In those days, John the Baptizer came, preaching in the wilderness of Judea, saying, 3:2"Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!" 3:3For this is he who was spoken of by Isaiah the prophet, saying,
        "The voice of one crying in the wilderness,
        Make ready the way of the Lord,
        Make his paths straight."

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        • #19


          3:4Now John himself wore clothing made of camel's hair, with a leather belt around his waist. His food was locusts and wild honey. 3:5Then people from Jerusalem, all of Judea, and all the region around the Jordan went out to him. 3:6They were baptized by him in the Jordan, confessing their sins. 3:7But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for his baptism, he said to them, "You offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 3:8Therefore bring forth fruit worthy of repentance! 3:9Don't think to yourselves, 'We have Abraham for our father,' for I tell you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.
          3:10"Even now the axe lies at the root of the trees. Therefore, every tree that doesn't bring forth good fruit is cut down, and cast into the fire. 3:11I indeed baptize you in water for repentance, but he who comes after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you in the Holy Spirit.[COLOR=window****]*[/COLOR] 3:12His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his threshing floor. He will gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn up with unquenchable fire."
          3:13Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to John, to be baptized by him. 3:14But John would have hindered him, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and you come to me?"
          3:15But Jesus, answering, said to him, "Allow it now, for this is the fitting way for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he allowed him. 3:16Jesus, when he was baptized, went up directly from the water: and behold, the heavens were opened to him. He saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming on him. 3:17Behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased."
          I would like to notice together how the heaven did not acknowledge the filiation of Jesus to God according to the belief of Christians except after baptizing i.e. after he was purged and repented. As for before that happened it was not recognized. In addition, when purgation of sins occurred, the devil came to test him and it was proven through his disobedience to this evil that baptism was effective. However, this did not forbid him from being disinterested later of arresting Yehia, his master and baptizer, his imprisonment and murder as he went to the wilderness with his disciples after the beheading of Yehia BPUH eating and drinking without shedding a tear for him or saying about him a word indicating that he was of interest fro them and as if Yehia was not terribly slaughtered nearby them. Moreover his baptism PBUH did not stop him, for example, to explain that he did not come to destroy the faith or law (which he confirmed that he would obliterate a single letter of it or even a dot on a letter of it till the heavens and earths are pass away i.e. till the day of judgment). However, he destroyed at once a number of its rulings and he nullified them as recorded in the fifth book of the Gospel of Mathew contradicting by this himself in a way that cannot be interpreted in any manner and condemning himself in such an unforgivable way according to his own words as he said:
          إن من ينقض أحد أحكام ذلك الناموس يكون أصغر فرد فى ملكوت السماوات
          19Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven;


          "17«لاَتَظُنُّوا أَنِّي جِئْتُ لأَنْقُضَ النَّامُوسَ أَوِ الأَنْبِيَاءَ. مَا جِئْتُلأَنْقُضَ بَلْ لأُكَمِّلَ. 18فَإِنِّي الْحَقَّ أَقُولُ لَكُمْ: إِلَى أَنْتَزُولَ السَّمَاءُ وَالأَرْضُ لاَ يَزُولُ حَرْفٌ وَاحِدٌ أَوْ نُقْطَةٌ وَاحِدَةٌمِنَ النَّامُوسِ حَتَّى يَكُونَ الْكُلُّ. 19فَمَنْ نَقَضَ إِحْدَى هذِهِالْوَصَايَا الصُّغْرَى وَعَلَّمَ النَّاسَ هكَذَا، يُدْعَى أَصْغَرَ فِي مَلَكُوتِالسَّمَاوَاتِ. وَأَمَّا مَنْ عَمِلَ وَعَلَّمَ، فَهذَا يُدْعَى عَظِيمًا فِيمَلَكُوتِ السَّمَاوَاتِ. 20فَإِنِّي أَقُولُ لَكُمْ: إِنَّكُمْ إِنْ لَمْ يَزِدْبِرُّكُمْ عَلَى الْكَتَبَةِ وَالْفَرِّيسِيِّينَ لَنْ تَدْخُلُوا مَلَكُوتَالسَّماوَاتِ"
          5:17"Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn't come to destroy, but to fulfill. 5:18For most assuredly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one [COLOR=window****]smallest letter[/COLOR] or one [COLOR=window****]tiny pen stroke[/COLOR] shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished. 5:19Whoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and teach others to do so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whoever shall do and teach them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 5:20For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
          And this is a sin and what a sin! In addition, he PBUH at the same time when he confirmed to his disciples that they should to love their enemies and bless their offenders and not to love only those who love them, we see him after that in the same speech turn to them and to those following him of the crowds accusing them of having little faith (Gospel of Mathew 6/31 & 8/26)
          6:31"Therefore don't be anxious, saying, 'What will we eat?', 'What will we drink?' or, 'With what will we be clothed?' 6:32For the Gentiles seek after all these things, for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 6:33But seek first God's Kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things will be given to you as well. 6:34Therefore don't be anxious for tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Each day's own evil is sufficient.
          8:26He said to them, "Why are you fearful, oh you of little faith?" Then he got up, rebuked the wind and the sea, and there was a great calm.

          calling each of them “O, hypocrite”:

          7:5You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.
          And describing them as evil. (7/11)
          “7:11If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!”

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          • #20


            This and the like and worse than it was repeated by him in different places of gospels as we all know. Then he was praying once when one of his disciples asked him to teach them how to pray and he taught them how to pray as follows according to what is stated in the eleventh book of the Gospel of Luke:

            : "1وَإِذْ كَانَ يُصَلِّي فِي مَوْضِعٍ، لَمَّا فَرَغَ، قَالَوَاحِدٌ مِنْ تَلاَمِيذِهِ: «يَارَبُّ، عَلِّمْنَا أَنْ نُصَلِّيَ كَمَا عَلَّمَيُوحَنَّا أَيْضًا تَلاَمِيذَهُ». 2فَقَالَ لَهُمْ:«مَتَى صَلَّيْتُمْ فَقُولُوا: أَبَانَا الَّذِي فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ، لِيَتَقَدَّسِ اسْمُكَ، لِيَأْتِ مَلَكُوتُكَ،لِتَكُنْ مَشِيئَتُكَ كَمَا فِي السَّمَاءِ كَذلِكَ عَلَى الأَرْضِ. 3خُبْزَنَاكَفَافَنَا أَعْطِنَا كُلَّ يَوْمٍ، 4وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا خَطَايَانَا لأَنَّنَا نَحْنُأَيْضًا نَغْفِرُ لِكُلِّ مَنْ يُذْنِبُ إِلَيْنَا، وَلاَ تُدْخِلْنَا فِيتَجْرِبَةٍ لكِنْ نَجِّنَا مِنَ الشِّرِّيرِ»"


            1 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples. 2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say,

            Our Father which art in heaven,
            Hallowed be thy name.
            Thy kingdom come.
            Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
            3 Give us day by day our daily bread.
            4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us.
            And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

            What does then his command to them to say like him “ and forgive for us our sins” mean? It means that he asked God to forgive for himself his sins. On the whole, the Messiah PBUH was decisive when he asserted:
            "11اَلْحَقَّ أَقُولُلَكُمْ: لَمْ يَقُمْ بَيْنَ الْمَوْلُودِينَ مِنَ النِّسَاءِ أَعْظَمُ مِنْيُوحَنَّا الْمَعْمَدَانِ" (متى/ 11)
            11:11Most assuredly I tell you, among those who are born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptizer; yet he who is least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he

            i.e Yehia according to his own judgment was better than him. Isn’t Jesus one of those begotten by women? Furthermore, he PBUH settled the matter when he was asked by a ruler:
            18سَأَلَهُرَئِيسٌ قِائِلاً:«أَيُّهَا الْمُعَلِّمُ الصَّالِحُ، مَاذَا أَعْمَلُ لأَرِثَالْحَيَاةَ الأَبَدِيَّةَ؟» 19فَقَالَ لَهُ يَسُوعُ:«لِمَاذَا تَدْعُونِي صَالِحًا؟لَيْسَ أَحَدٌ صَالِحًا إِلاَّ وَاحِدٌ وَهُوَ اللهُ" (لوقا/ 18).


            18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

            Now what are the wrongdoings committed by Mohammed PBUH in the opinion of our own revered preacher? Let’s leave him say what he wants to say freely:
            Mohamed personally admitted three times in the Holy Koran that he should have asked For God’s forgiveness

            “فَاصْبِرْ إِنَّ وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لِذَنْبِكَ وَسَبِّحْ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّكَ بِالْعَشِيِّ وَالإِبْكَار”- غافر 55.

            So be patient (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) Verily, the Promise of Allâh is true, and ask forgiveness for your fault and glorify the praises of your Lord in the 'Ashi (i.e. the time period after the midnoon till sunset) and in the Ibkâr (i.e. the time period from early morning or sunrise till before midnoon) (it is said that, that means the five compulsory congregational Salât (prayers) or the 'Asr and Fajr prayers).
            (Surat Ghafer – Verse No. 55)

            “فَاعْلَمْ أَنَّهُ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لِذَنْبِكَ وَلِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمُؤْمِنَاتِ واللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ مُتَقَلَّبَكُمْ وَمَثْوَاكُمْ”- محمد 19

            So know (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) that, Lâ ilâha ill-Allâh (none has the right to be worshipped but Allâh), and ask forgiveness for your sin, and also for (the sin of) believing men and believing women. And Allâh knows well your moving about, and your place of rest (in your homes).
            (Surat Muhammed- Verse No. 19)

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            • #21


              “وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِي أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِي فِي نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشَاهُ فَلَمَّا قَضَى زَيْدٌ مِنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا لِكَيْ لاَ يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِي أَزْوَاجِ أَدْعِيَائِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهُ مَفْعُولاً”- الأحزاب 37

              And (remember) when you said to him (Zaid bin Hârithah (may Allah be pleased with him) - the freed-slave of the Prophet (peace be upon him)) on whom Allâh has bestowed Grace (by guiding him to Islâm) and you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him) too) have done favor (by manumitting him): "Keep your wife to yourself, and fear Allâh." But you did hide in yourself (i.e. what Allâh has already made known to you that He will give her to you in marriage) that which Allâh will make manifest, you did fear the people (i.e., their saying that Muhammad (peace be upon him) married the divorced wife of his manumitted slave) whereas Allâh had a better right that you should fear Him. So when Zaid had accomplished his desire from her (i.e. divorced her), We gave her to you in marriage, so that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the believers in respect of (the marriage of) the wives of their adopted sons when the latter have no desire to keep them (i.e. they have divorced them). And Allâh's Command must be fulfilled.
              (Surat Al-Ahzab- verse No. 37)

              It seems that the majority of Muslims refuses this fact and interprets it according to their own whims. This what the preacher said. Now we present to the respected reader our comment on what he said:
              Firstly, Mohammed PBUH did not confess of anything in the Holy Koran. These were the words of Allah not the words of the messenger. Secondly, I wonder what are these wrongdoings which the preacher attributed in particular to the Messenger of Allah? In fact, there is no such thing at all for the messenger committed adultery nor did he shed blood of a soul, nor did he lie to anyone, nor envy him, nor did he stir a conspiracy for anyone of mankind, nor was he lenient in reporting the message he was delegated to perform, nor did he diverge away from it, nor did he accept idolatry of disbelievers, nor did he drink alcohol, nor did he steal, nor did he oppress people nor did he frighten them nor was he unjust with their rights nor did he do anything of what scribers of gospel had attributed to any prophet or more as know everyone who read this book. Otherwise, would this Christian preacher lead us to any source saying that the messenger had committed any of these things! Actually, there is nothing of this not in Koran nor in the prophetic traditions, or in the books of biography and history denoting this.

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              • #22


                A man asking forgiveness from his God is evidence of his strong belief in him and real piety of Him and great hope in Almighty God. It is not necessary that he should have committed any wrongdoing; rather, it is possible that he may have tried and formed an opinion concerning a certain matter and the heaven did not agree with him on this way of thinking like what happened in the case of Mohammed PBUH when a Muslim came to him when he was talking calmly to some oppressive atheists which he hoped that they will be better listeners; hence, they would be guided to the right path away from the influence of the crowds and voices of fanaticism. A kind of discomfort appeared on the face of the messenger PBUH thinking that this person would spoil the meeting with these atheists which he aspired to. Thus, the Koranic verses were revealed reproaching him PBUH. If you wish to consider what some interpreters said that the words in the verses were addressed to him, it is up to you. This is all that can be said about the wrongdoing that was committed by the messenger PBUH that he should have asked forgiveness from God because the right doings of the chaste are the wrong doings of the close ones as it goes without saying. It is as we see such a negligent matter. However, the messenger ascends in another horizon unequalled in elevation and loftiness; hence, he should have asked for forgiveness provided we accept this interpretation and the reproof was not addressed to any of the present atheists at the time, not to him PBUH as some other thinkers believe.
                As for the issue of Zienab and the marriage of the messenger PBUH of her, het assume that the worst had happened, that is, he PBUH saw her and fell for her and loved her, what happened afterwards? What happened is that he PBUH suppressed his crush and did not respond to the offer suggested by her husband Zied to divorce her so that the messenger got married to her, what is wrong here? Would the messenger PBUH be blamed for something he had no responsibility for? Hearts are among two fingers of the Most benevolent and do not lie in the domain of their holders and are not subject to their control. Hence, he is not to be blamed for what he felt in the domain of feelings and passions. It is important that he would not respond to whims and not to commit the forbidden or at least: in what is not becoming of the messenger. Thus, did the messenger PBUH commit anything of the sort? No, no and no, what is the problem the? And this if the matter was as assumed by some of who believe they can insult him and I have pretended to agree with them in what they presumed.

                However, the true story is completely different from this. The relationship between Zied and his wife was dominated by tension from the beginning because she felt that she belonged to the most powerful Arab tribe which is Qorysh whereas Zied belonged to the unheard of Bani Kelieb tribe. In addition to this he experienced slavery at some stages of his life. Zied used to tell the prophet PBUH that he found no sense in going on with this marriage, but the prophet tried to make him change his mind. However, the heaven wished him (the prophet PBUH) to marry Zienab after Zied divorced her so as to eliminate this odd tradition which entailed that the adopted son have the same rights of a natural son and what would result to his statue of legislative and social conditions. This is what the prophet feared lest he would be condemned by criticizers and betrayed by gossipers. Hence, the verse of Surat El-Ahzab concerning this issue was revealed in which he was blamed for fearing people while he should fear God. The verse goes on:
                …”فَلَمَّا قَضَى زَيْدٌ مِنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنَاكَهَا لِكَيْ لاَ يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِي أَزْوَاجِ أَدْعِيَائِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا”…

                (So when Zaid had accomplished his desire from her (i.e. he married her and had his desire of her, then he divorced her), We gave her to you in marriage, so that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the believers in respect of (the marriage of) the wives of their adopted sons when the latter have no desire to keep them (i.e. they have divorced them).

                It is clear from the verse that there is no relation between what it states and what frauds say against the prophet PBUH which cannot damage his integrity despite what it says; rather, he should be honoured for being able to suppress and hide his feelings and not allowing them to show despite what Zied offered concerning divorcing Zienab so that the prophet may marry her. We conclude from all of this that the maximum that we could imagine to happen by the prophet PBUH and which necessitated asking for forgiveness from God is his attitude towards Ibn Oum Maktoum when he frowned and turned his face away from him hoping that the latter may leave and come back some other time when there are not this crowd of atheists whom he aspired to get their attention and faith in him. On the other hand, Ibn Oum Maktoum could come to him at any time to ask him about what he wishes. As for these atheists he had rarely the present chance. This is definitely less to a great extent than what we mentioned concerning the Messiah PBUH

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                • #23


                  5- The revelation for Mohammed and the Messiah:

                  Mohammed received the revelation through the angel Gabriel, the honest spirit. It was stated in the proper Hadith that if the revelation visited him, he would lose consciousness and in a narration: he would look like a drunkard i.e. closer to the state of an unconscious person due to his great change from his regular state till his form appears like a drunken person. Muslim scientists said that he was taken away from the world. It is narrated about Abi Horeyra : when Muhammed is visited by revelation, would shudder. In another narration: he would be distressed and his face features would change and he may close his eyes, and he may have slept like a virgin. It is narrated about Omar Bin El-Khattab: if he was visited by revelation, a sound like the sound of bees would be heard at his face. Mohammed was asked: How are you visited by the revelation? He said: some times it would visit me like bell’s jingle and it would be hard for me, he would leave me after I have learnt what he said. Scientists agreed that Muhammed would feel load when visited by the revelation, his forehead would be stemmed with sweat in the cold weather like pearls, and he may sleep deeply like a virgin, with his reddened eyes. It is related about Zied Ibn Thabet: when the revelation visits Mohammed, he would feel heavy for this. He said: once his thigh fell on mine, by God, I never found anything heavier than the thigh of Muhammed. And he may receive the revelation while he was riding on his camel, he would shiver till it is thought that its arm is splitting and it may knelt down. God never talked to Mohammed personally but He revealed to him through the angel Gabriel, so God was away from him even during the revelation. God never sent the angel Gabriel to the messiah and the Messiah never received a revelation though a third person for he was himself the embodied word of Godaccording to Surat Mariam Verse 19:

                  “أَنَا رَسُولُ رَبِّكِ لأَهَبَ لَكِ غُلاَمًا زَكِيًّا”- سورة مريم 19
                  (The angel) said: "I am only a Messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son."

                  The eternal word of God, a spirit of Him stemmed for God himself knowing His wish. If someone wishes to examine deeper the will of God, he should study the biography of the Messiah because he is the word of the mighty embodied God. The Koran itself tells us that God Himself taught the Messiah before his embodiment the Book, wisdom, Taurat and Bible:
                  "وَيُعَلِّمُهُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالإِنْجِيل"آل عمران
                  “[48] And He (Allâh) will teach him ('Isâ (Jesus)) the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets, wisdom), (and) the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).” Al Emeran

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                  • #24


                    Therefore, he did not talk except saying the words of Allah. He used to speak according to Koran by revelation immediately after his birth soothing and guiding his mother:

                    فَنَادَاهَا مِنْ تَحْتِهَا أَلاَّ تَحْزَنِي قَدْ جَعَلَ رَبُّكِ تَحْتَكِسَرِيًّا وَهُزِّي إِلَيْكِ بِجِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِ تُسَاقِطْ عَلَيْكِ رُطَبًاجَنِيًّا فَكُلِي وَاشْرَبِي وَقَرِّي عَيْنًا فَإِمَّا تَرَيِنَّ مِنَ الْبَشَرِأَحَدًا فَقُولِي إِنِّي نَذَرْتُ لِلرَّحْمَانِ صَوْمًا فَلَنْ أُكَلِّمَالْيَوْمَ إِنْسِيًّا- سورة مريم 24- 26

                    “ (24) then (the babe Isa (Jesus) or Jibril (Gabriel) cried unto her from below her, saying: “Grieve not: your Lord has provided a water stream under you.(25) And shake the trunk of date-palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe- dates upon you. (26) So eat and drink and be glad. And if you see any human being, say: ‘Verily! I have vowed a fast unto the Most Gracious (Allah) so I shall not speak to any human being this day”

                    The Messiah talked according to Koran by the word of God when he was a baby without any need for an angel or a mediator because he is the mouth, spirit and revelation in person of God. Therefore, the power of God worked in the son of Mariam as indicated in creation, cure, forgiveness, soothing and renewal. The conclusion of the revelation for Mohammed which came in the Koran and Hadith is the shariah (legislation) that includes the heavenly commands and prohibitions. Thus, the revelation of Mohammed brought the book of the Koran and Shariah (legislation). As for the conclusion of the revelation to the Messiah is his identity as his bible is not a legislation but a declaration of his life, sayings, and a de******ion of his personality. The Messiah gave his followers the power of his holy spirit in order to purse his commandment. The followers of Messiah do not believe in the first place in a book nor in a religion and do not abide by the legislation but they believe in a unique person and cling to the Messiah in person and follow him for the Messiah is the revelation of God in soul.

                    This paragraph is full of confusions and contradictions and futile big talk. Let’s proceed with the bless of God :
                    Firstly: the angel Gabriel i.e. the Trustworthy Spirit according to what the preacher stated is the Holy Spirit as it was mentioned in Surat El-Shoraa addressing the Messenger PBUH :


                    "وَإِنَّهُ لَتَنْزِيلُ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ (192) نَزَلَ بِهِالرُّوحُ الأَمِينُ (193) عَلَى قَلْبِكَ لِتَكُونَ مِنَ الْمُنْذِرِينَ (194) بِلِسَانٍ عَرَبِيٍّ مُبِينٍ (195)" سورة الشعراء
                    (192) And truly. This (the Qur’an) is a revelation from the Lord of the ‘Alamin (mankind, jinn and all that exists)(193) Which the trustworthy Uh (Jibril i.e. Gabriel) has brought down. (194) upon your heart (O Muhammed PBUH) that you may be (one) of the warners. (195) In the plain Arabic language.

                    This is the same as what we recite in Surat Al-Nahl when the Lord of Glory says addressing his messenger Mohammed PBUH:

                    "فَإِذَا قَرَأْتَ الْقُرْآَنَ فَاسْتَعِذْ بِاللَّهِ مِنَ الشَّيْطَانِ الرَّجِيمِ (98) إِنَّهُ لَيْسَ لَهُ سُلْطَانٌ عَلَى الَّذِينَ آَمَنُوا وَعَلَى رَبِّهِمْ يَتَوَكَّلُونَ (99) إِنَّمَا سُلْطَانُهُ عَلَى الَّذِينَ يَتَوَلَّوْنَهُ وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ بِهِ مُشْرِكُونَ (100) وَإِذَا بَدَّلْنَا آَيَةً مَكَانَ آَيَةٍ وَاللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا يُنَزِّلُ قَالُوا إِنَّمَا أَنْتَ مُفْتَرٍ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لا يَعْلَمُونَ (101) قُلْ نَزَّلَهُ رُوحُ الْقُدُسِ مِنْ رَبِّكَ بِالْحَقِّ لِيُثَبِّتَ الَّذِينَ آَمَنُوا وَهُدًى وَبُشْرَى لِلْمُسْلِمِينَ (102)"- سورة النحل

                    (98) So when you want to recite the Qur’an seek refuge with Allah from Satan, the outcast (the cursed one) (99) Verily! He has no power over those who believe and put their trust only in their Lord. (100) His power is only over those who obey and follow him (Satan), and those who join partners with Him (Allah) (polytheists) (101) And when We change a verse (of the Qur’an) in place of another- and Allah knows best what he sends down- they (the disbelievers) say: “You (O Muhammed PBUH) are but a forger(i.e. fraud) . “Nay, but most of them know not. (102) Say (O Muhammed PBUH) Ruh-ul-Qudus (Gabriel) has brought it (the Qur’an) down from your Lord with truth that it may make firm and strengthen (the faith of) those who believe, and as a guidance and glad tidings to those who have submitted (to Allah as Muslims).

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                      Now is it true that the Holy Spirit had no role in the life of the Messiah as claimed by the preacher here? I will let the Biblical Encyclopedia itself answer this question as we read in the entry of : “ The Holy spirit” what follows:

                      بدأ عصرالانجيل بتحرك خاص من الروح القدس، فنقرأ عن يوحنا المعمدان السابق للمسيا أنه "منبطن أمه يمتلئ من الروح القدس" (لو 1: 15 و80)، وبوحي من الروح أدرك سمعان الشيخظهور المسيا في شخص الطفل يسوع (لو 2: 52)، كما أن الملاك أعلن ليوسف أن الذي حُبِلبه في مريم "هو من الروح القدس" ( مت 1: 20)، وبذلك تأيدت العبارة السابقة: "وُجِدَتْ حبلى من الروح القدس (مت 1: 18). وهكذا قال الملاك للعذراء مريم: "الروحالقدس يحلّ عليك، وقوة العَلِيّ تُظِلّك. فلذلك أيضا القدوس المولود منك يدعى: ابنالله" (لو 1: 35). وعندما كان يسوع في الثلاثين من عمره جاء ليعتمد من يوحناالمعمدان، وكما حُبِل بيسوع بالروح القدس فولد "قُدُّوسا" هكذا نزل عليه، عندالمعمودية، الروح القدس "بهيئة جسمية مثل حمامة" إعلانا بأنه المسيا القدوس (مت 3: 16 ، لو 3: 22). ولعل الرسول بطرس كان يشير إلى هذه الحادثة في حديثه الأول للأممعن "يسوع الذي من الناصرة كيف مسحه الله بالروح القدس والقوة" (أع 10: 38 ). ويشيريوحنا إلى ذلك بالقول: "لأن الذي أرسله الله يتكلم بكلام الله، لأنه ليس بكيل يعطيالله الروح" (يو 3: 43). وكانت قوة الروح القدس واضحة في حياة يسوع وخدمته، فبعدصعوده من الماء مباشرة أخرجه الروح إلى البرية حيث واجه المجرب (مت 3: 1 – 3، مرقس 1: 12و13، لو 4: 1 – 3)، وغلبهبقوة الروح القدس باعتباره "آدم الأخير"، أي الإنسان الكامل. وقد نسب الرب قدرتهعلى إخراج الأرواح النجسة إلى الروح القدس (مت 12: 28). وهكذا كان الأمر بالنسبةلتعليمه، فقد مسحه الروح القدس ليبشر المساكين ولينادي للمأسورين بالإطلاق (لو 4: 18). وطوال خدمته هنا على الأرض كان الناس ينبهرون من تلك القوة العجيبة التي لهحتى قالوا: "إنه مختل" (مرقس 3: 21)، كما "بهتوا من تعليمه لأنه كان يعلمهم كمن لهسلطان" (مرقس 1 : 21). كما كان يبدو أحيانا متجاهلاً لحاجاته الجسدية (يو 4: 31) حتى قال البعض عنه: "إنه سامري، وبه شيطان" (يو 8: 48). وعندما رجع السبعون من جولةكرازية ناجحة "تهلل يسوع بالروح" (لو 10: 21). وقد يسأل البعض هذا السؤال: إذا كانيسوع هو الله الابن، فلماذا كان في حاجة إلى قوة الروح القدس لإتمام خدمته؟ ويرجعجانب من الجواب إلى ناسوته الكامل الذي أخذه في تجسده، فلم يقلل من ناسوته كونهالله، فلم تحجب قدرته الالهية ناسوته، فهو كإنسان كامل عاش معتمدًا على روح الله. فيسوع، إذ صار إنسانا، كان يعتمد على روح الله الحالّ فيه، ولهذا فهو في تدبيرالخلاص أخذ دور المسيا، أي الذي مسحه روح الله، وفي نفس الوقت كان مدركا لسلطانهالإلهي المطلق، فهو لم يكن كسائر الأنبياء، فلم يقل: هكذا يقول الرب، بل: الحق الحقأقول لكم".


                      The era of the Gospel began with a particular movement of the Holy Spirit, of John the Baptist the former of the Messiah that "For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb." “And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit,
                      and was in the deserts till the day of his shewing unto Israel”
                      (Luke 1: 15, 80), inspired by the spirit and Samaan the Sheikh realized the emergence of the Messiah in the person of the Child Jesus “And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.” (Luke 2: 52 ). In addition, the angel announced to Joseph that what was conceived in Mary " But when he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, don't be afraid to take to yourself Mary, your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit." (Matthew 1: 20), and thus the previous phrase was emphasized : " Now the birth of Jesus Christ was like this; for after his mother, Mary, was engaged to Joseph, before they came together, she was found pregnant by the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 1: 18). Thus, the angel said to the Virgin Mary: "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy one which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. "(Luke 1: 35). When Jesus was in his thirties, he came to be baptized by John the Baptist, as Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit and he (Jesus) was born " sanctified "This is how it went, at the baptism, the Holy Spirit" with a body figure like a dove, a declaration that he was the sanctified Messiah “Jesus, when he was baptized, went up directly from the water: and behold, the heavens were opened to him. He saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming on him.” (Matthew 3: 16 )“And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him”, (Luke 3: 22). The Apostle Peter might have been referring to this incident in his first talk for nations about the Jesus of Nazareth, how God bestowed him with the Holy Spirit and power "He anoints you with the Holy Spirit, strength, ability and power so that you can ... oppressed by the power of the devil, in the wonderful Name of Jesus” (Acts 10:38). John refers to this by saying: "The one whom God sent (Jesus) speaks the words of God for he gives the Spirit without measure" (John 3: 43). The power of the Holy Spirit was evident in the lives of Jesus and his servants, immediately after his ascending from the water the spirit directed him to the wilderness as he confronted the devil “3:16Jesus, when he was baptized, went up directly from the water: and behold, the heavens were opened to him. He saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming on him. 3:17Behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased."

                      4:1Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.”

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                      • #26


                        (Matthew 3: 1-3), “1:12And straightway the Spirit driveth him forth into the wilderness.” ( Mark 1: 12 ) 1:13And he was in the wilderness forty days tempted of Satan; And he was with the wild beasts; And the angels ministered unto him.” (Mark 1:13) and “And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness “ (Luke 4: 1-3). He predominated him by the power of the Holy Spirit as he was "the last Adam", ie, the full man. God attributed His ability to bring impure lives to the Holy Spirit “But if I by the Spirit of God cast out demons, then the Kingdom of God has come upon you.” (Matthew 12: 28). And this was the case of his education, the Holy Spirit has anointed him so that he may bring good tidings to the poor and to pray for the release of the captive “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted,
                        to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised
                        “ (Luke 4: 18). Throughout his service here on Earth, people were astonished at that strange power which he had so they said: " And when his friends heard it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself." (Mark 3: 21). In addition, they were surprised by his teaching because he used to preach them like someone who has authority "And they go into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue and taught.” (Mark 1: 21). Moreover, he would seem at times, to ignore his physical needs, “In the mean while the disciples prayed him, saying, Rabbi, eat.” (John 4: 31) so that some said about him: " The Jews answered and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a demon?” "(John 8: 48). When the seventy returned from a successful Chorazin tour "
                        In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said,
                        I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent,
                        and hast revealed them unto babes:
                        even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
                        "(Luke 10: 21). Some might ask this question: If Jesus is the Son of God, why was in need for the power of the Holy Spirit to complete His service? A part of the answer is due to his full carnal which he acquired in his embodiment. His carnal was not reduced by his being God; his divine ability did not mask his body. He, as a full man, lived relying on the Spirit of God. Jesus, when he has become a human being, used to depend on the Spirit of God which was transferred to him. Hence, in the measure of salvation he acquired the role of Messiah, i.e. who was anointed by the Spirit of God. At the same time he was aware of his absolute divine power, as he was not like other prophets; therefore, he did not say: “Thus says the Lord, but: the truth, the truth I tell you. "


                        From this **** which wholly depended on what was stated in the New Testament, in particular the gospels, we can see that the Holy spirit never left Jesus son of Maryam at all in any matter contrary to what is said by our kind preacher who has good intentions (I would only describe him of this and I won’t add anything more). Even the writer of the above-mentioned entry says out of the horse’s mouth:


                        "إذا كانيسوع هو الله الابن، فلماذا كان في حاجة إلى قوة الروح القدس لإتمامخدمته؟"
                        This is a meaningless question except that despite the fact that the Christ is a deity, he was in need for the Holy Spirit! Why, O you our kind preacher with the good intentions, do you believe that the revelation of the trustworthy spirit to our messenger Mohammed PBUH is a deficit of him and his message while he never claimed nor did any of his followers or companions that he was a god or son of a deity or has anything that belongs to a deity whereas the Christ (a god or son of god according to your belief) needs the holy spirit in every step he took, if gods walk and tread? I wonder if Mohammed differs from your belief of god? We will see that the matter does not end here; we will find out that Mohammed despite the brotherhood linking him to Jesus and all the prophets was preferred by God to all of them, including Eisa (Jesus) for things that for some one with some justice cannot argue about. Let’s wait as everything would happen at its due time. Despite all of this the revelation visiting Mohammed PBUH or Eisa (Jesus) PBUH through the holy spirit does not mean that God was away from them as God is not away from ay of his creatures for Almighty God cannot be described in fact of being close or far as he rises over time and place as He is their creator God to whom glory and might belong is closer to all of us than our veins and He is with us wherever we are, then what about His elite pious messenger? As for Mohammed suffered when he received the revelation, we know that according to the enormity of responsibility is the suffering. The message of Mohammed as the case in the religion of Eisa (Jesus) according to what we read in the gospels, some of moral discourses void of social, economic, political and military legislations and teachings or a temporary tribal or national message; rather, it was a comprehensive message for all aspects of life addressed to all mankind since it came till the day of resurrection.

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                        • #27



                          We come to the saying of our kind preacher with good intentions : God did not send the angel Gabriel to the Messiah at all, and the Messiah never receive a revelation through a third person because he himself was the embodied word of God – Surat Maryam – verse 34:

                          ذَلِكَ عيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ قَوْلَ الْحَقِّ الَّذِي فِيهِ يَمْتَرُونَ (34)
                          Such is 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). (It is) a statement of truth, about which they doubt (or dispute).
                          And the eternal word of God and a spirit of Him stemming from God Himself knowing His will. If someone wishes to examine deeper the will of God, he should study the biography of the Messiah because he is the word of the mighty embodied God. The Koran itself tells us that God Himself taught the Messiah before his embodiment the Book, wisdom, Taurat and Bible:
                          "وَيُعَلِّمُهُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالإِنْجِيل" آل عمران

                          “[48] And He (Allâh) will teach him ('Isâ (Jesus)) the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets, wisdom), (and) the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).” Al Emeran

                          As for the first part of his discourse, we have proven from the discourse of Christian scientists in the Biblical Encyclopedia that it is not true at all. It remains to discuss his claim that the Koran says about Eisa (Jesus) PBUH in Surat Mariam that he was the embodied word of God, is this true? Let’s read together what came in this surat:

                          "وَاذْكُرْ فِي الْكِتَابِ مَرْيَمَ إِذِ انْتَبَذَتْ مِنْ أَهْلِهَا مَكَانًا شَرْقِيًّا (16) فَاتَّخَذَتْ مِنْ دُونِهِمْ حِجَابًا فَأَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهَا رُوحَنَا فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا بَشَرًا سَوِيًّا (17) قَالَتْ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِالرَّحْمَنِ مِنْكَ إِنْ كُنْتَ تَقِيًّا (18) قَالَ إِنَّمَا أَنَا رَسُولُ رَبِّكِ لأَهَبَ لَكِ غُلامًا زَكِيًّا (19) قَالَتْ أَنَّى يَكُونُ لِي غُلامٌ وَلَمْ يَمْسَسْنِي بَشَرٌ وَلَمْ أَكُ بَغِيًّا (20) قَالَ كَذَلِكِ قَالَ رَبُّكِ هُوَ عَلَيَّ هَيِّنٌ وَلِنَجْعَلَهُ آَيَةً لِلنَّاسِ وَرَحْمَةً مِنَّا وَكَانَ أَمْرًا مَقْضِيًّا (21)".

                          [16] And mention in the Book (the Qur'ân, O Muhammad (peace be upon him) the story of) Maryam (Mary), when she withdrew in seclusion from her family to a place facing east. [17] She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our Ruh (angel Jibrîl (Gabriel)) and he appeared before her in the form of a man in all respects. [18] She said: "Verily! I seek refuge with the Most Gracious (Allâh) from you, if you do fear Allâh." [19] (The angel) said: "I am only a Messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son." [20] She said: "How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, nor am I unchaste?" [21] He said: "So (it will be), your Lord said: 'That is easy for Me (Allâh): And (We wish) to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us (Allâh), and it is a matter (already) decreed, (by Allâh).' "

                          فَحَمَلَتْهُ فَانْتَبَذَتْ بِهِ مَكَانًا قَصِيًّا (22) فَأَجَاءَهَا الْمَخَاضُ إِلَى جِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِ قَالَتْ يَا لَيْتَنِي مِتُّ قَبْلَ هَذَا وَكُنْتُ نَسْيًا مَنْسِيًّا (23)
                          (22) And she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place.(23) And the pangs of childbirth drove her unto the trunk of the palm-tree. She said: Oh, would that I had died ere this and had become a thing of naught, forgotten!




                          “فَنَادَاهَا مِنْ تَحْتِهَا أَلاَّ تَحْزَنِي قَدْ جَعَلَ رَبُّكِ تَحْتَكِ سَرِيًّا (24) وَهُزِّي إِلَيْكِ بِجِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِ تُسَاقِطْ عَلَيْكِ رُطَبًا جَنِيًّا (25) فَكُلِي وَاشْرَبِي وَقَرِّي عَيْنًا فَإِمَّا تَرَيِنَّ مِنَ الْبَشَرِ أَحَدًا فَقُولِي إِنِّي نَذَرْتُ لِلرَّحْمَنِ صَوْمًا فَلَنْ أُكَلِّمَ الْيَوْمَ إِنْسِيًّا” (26)

                          “ (24) then (the babe Isa (Jesus) or Jibril (Gabriel) cried unto her from below her, saying: “Grieve not: your Lord has provided a water stream under you.(25) And shake the trunk of date-palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe- dates upon you. (26) So eat and drink and be glad. And if you see any human being, say: ‘Verily! I have vowed a fast unto the Most Gracious (Allah) so I shall not speak to any human being this day”

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                          • #28


                            فَأَتَتْ بِهِ قَوْمَهَا تَحْمِلُهُ قَالُوا يَا مَرْيَمُ لَقَدْ جِئْتِ شَيْئًا فَرِيًّا (27) يَا أُخْتَ هَارُونَ مَا كَانَ أَبُوكِ امْرَأَ سَوْءٍ وَمَا كَانَتْ أُمُّكِ بَغِيًّا (28) فَأَشَارَتْ إِلَيْهِ قَالُوا كَيْفَ نُكَلِّمُ مَنْ كَانَ فِي الْمَهْدِ صَبِيًّا (29)
                            (27) Then she brought him to her own folk, carrying him. They said: O Mary! Thou hast come with an amazing thing.(28) O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked man nor was thy mother a harlot.(29) Then she pointed to him. They said: How can we talk to one who is in the cradle, a young boy ?

                            "قَالَ إِنِّي عَبْدُ اللَّهِ آَتَانِيَ الْكِتَابَ وَجَعَلَنِي نَبِيًّا (سورة مريم -30)
                            "He ('Iesa (Jesus)) said: Verily I am a slave of Allâh, He has given me the ******ure and made me a Prophet;"
                            وَجَعَلَنِي مُبَارَكًا أَيْنَ مَا كُنْتُ ‎وَأَوْصَانِي بِالصَّلاةِ وَالزَّكَاةِ مَا دُمْتُ حَيًّا (31)
                            "And He has made me blessed wheresoever I be, and has enjoined on me Salât (prayer), and Zakât(give charity or alms), as long as I live."
                            وَبَرًّا بِوَالِدَتِي وَلَمْ يَجْعَلْنِي جَبَّارًا شَقِيًّا (32)
                            "And dutiful to my mother, and made me not arrogant, unblest.”
                            وَالسَّلامُ عَلَيَّ يَوْمَ وُلِدْتُ وَيَوْمَ أَمُوتُ وَيَوْمَ أُبْعَثُ حَيًّا (33)
                            "And Salâm (peace) be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive!"
                            ذَلِكَ عيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ قَوْلَ الْحَقِّ الَّذِي فِيهِ يَمْتَرُونَ (34)
                            Such is 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). (It is) a statement of truth, about which they doubt (or dispute).
                            مَا كَانَ لِلَّهِ أَنْ يَتَّخِذَ مِنْ وَلَدٍ سُبْحَانَهُ إِذَا قَضَى أَمْرًا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ كُنْ فَيَكُونُ (35)
                            It befits not (the Majesty of) Allâh that He should beget a son (this refers to the slander of Christians against Allâh, by saying that 'Iesa (Jesus) is the son of Allâh). Glorified (and Exalted be He above all that they associate with Him). When He decrees a thing, He only says to it, "Be!" - and it is.
                            وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبُّكُمْ فَاعْبُدُوهُ هَذَا صِرَاطٌ مُسْتَقِيمٌ (36)"،
                            ('Iesa (Jesus) said): "And verily Allâh is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him (Alone). That is the Straight Path. (Allâh's religion of Islâmic Monotheism which He did ordain for all of His Prophets)." (Tafsir At-Tabarî).”
                            فَاخْتَلَفَ الأَحْزَابُ مِنْ بَيْنِهِمِْ فَوَيْلٌ لِلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ مَشْهَدِ يَوْمٍ عَظِيمٍ (37)"- سورة مريم


                            (37) The sects among them differ: but woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.

                            The meaning, as interpreted by native speakers of Arabic, is that what the verses narrated here about the Messiah is the word of Almighty God, the truth, not what is said by frauds who idolized him claiming that He is God Himself or the son of God. That is to say, this is the position of Eissa (Jesus) according to the words of God, not that Eiss himself is the word of God. Hence, the two verses uttered by Eissa (Jesus) himself followed:

                            مَا كَانَ لِلَّهِ أَنْ يَتَّخِذَ مِنْ وَلَدٍ سُبْحَانَهُ إِذَا قَضَى أَمْرًا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ كُنْ فَيَكُونُ (35)
                            It befits not (the Majesty of) Allâh that He should beget a son (this refers to the slander of Christians against Allâh, by saying that 'Iesa (Jesus) is the son of Allâh). Glorified (and Exalted be He above all that they associate with Him). When He decrees a thing, He only says to it, "Be!" - and it is.
                            وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبُّكُمْ فَاعْبُدُوهُ هَذَا صِرَاطٌ مُسْتَقِيمٌ (36)"،
                            ('Iesa (Jesus) said): "And verily Allâh is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him (Alone). That is the Straight Path. (Allâh's religion of Islâmic Monotheism which He did ordain for all of His Prophets)." (Tafsir At-Tabarî).”
                            (However the kind preacher with the good intentions attempts to distort the meaning, how impossible! Jesus (Eissa) denies that God has acquired a son or may acquire a son; in addition, he PBUH confirms that God is his lord and the lord of all mankind and is not his father. He definitely refutes that he himself is God! Nevertheless, His Excellency, the kind preacher with the good intentions thinks that he is smart enough to deceive Muslims in what is stated in the Koran. So, what would result of what our revered preacher wants? Let’s assume that Eissa (Jesus) himself is the word of God, what would this entail of what our kind preacher, with the good intentions, wants to arrange for him? Nothing. Whenever we quote a Koranic verse we repeat the words: "قال الله تعالى"i.e. Almighty God said. Therefore, the Koranic verse (s) cited are “the word of Allah”. However, this does not entail that this word of Allah is God himself the same as the fact that we mankind are God’s creation, but this does not make us God. Attributing something to God does not turn this object or thing to be considered as God himself as clear as the sun! thus, the word of God is not God and the creation of God is not Allah!

                            We are here before an instigator party and another object party not before a single party and itself. I do not know what devil had caused the preacher to hallucinate of what does not look right in mind, nor in language!

                            In addition, the saying of our revered preacher that the Koran tells us that God himself taught the Messiah before his embodiment the book, wisdom, Taurat and the gospel as in the verse:
                            As for what




                            "وَيُعَلِّمُهُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالإِنْجِيل" آل عمران
                            “[48] And He (Allâh) will teach him ('Isâ (Jesus)) the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets, wisdom), (and) the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).” Al Emeran - 48

                            Is not true. There is no information in Koran here, neither elsewhere about embodiment for its obvious contradiction with its righteous tolerant unifying Message. Let’s refer to Surat Al-Emeran from which the preacher copied what he did to read the **** complete in its con****. (Al-Emeran 45:51)

                            "إِذْ قَالَتِ الْمَلائِكَةُ يَا مَرْيَمُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُبَشِّرُكِ بِكَلِمَةٍ مِنْهُ اسْمُهُ الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ وَجِيهًا فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالآَخِرَةِ وَمِنَ الْمُقَرَّبِينَ (45)
                            When the angels said: “O Maryam (Mary), Allah gives you the glad tidings of a word “Be!” – And he was! i.e. Isa (Jesus) the son of Maryam from Him, his name will be the Messiah Isa, the son of Maryam, held in honour in this world and in the hereafter, and will be one of those who are near to Allah.”

                            وَيُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ فِي الْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلاً وَمِنَ الصَّالِحِينَ (46)
                            He will speak unto mankind in his cradle and in his manhood, and he is of the righteous.
                            قَالَتْ رَبِّ أَنَّى يَكُونُ لِي وَلَدٌ وَلَمْ يَمْسَسْنِي بَشَرٌ قَالَ كَذَلِكِ اللَّهُ يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَاءُ إِذَا قَضَى أَمْرًا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ كُنْ فَيَكُونُ (47)
                            She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me ? He said: So (it will be). Allah createth what He will. If He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.

                            وَيُعَلِّمُهُ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالإِنْجِيلَ (48(
                            And He will teach him the ******ure and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel,
                            وَرَسُولاً إِلَى بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنِّي قَدْ جِئْتُكُمْ بِآَيَةٍ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ أَنِّي أَخْلُقُ لَكُمْ مِنَ الطِّينِ كَهَيْئَةِ الطَّيْرِ فَأَنْفُخُ فِيهِ فَيَكُونُ طَيْرًا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ وَأُبْرِئُ الأَكْمَهَ وَالأَبْرَصَ وَأُحْيِي الْمَوْتَى بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ وَأُنَبِّئُكُمْ بِمَا تَأْكُلُونَ وَمَا تَدَّخِرُونَ فِي بُيُوتِكُمْ إِنَّ فِي ذَلِكَ لآَيَةً لَكُمْ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ مُؤْمِنِينَ (49)
                            And will make him a messenger unto the Children of Israel, (saying): Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird, by Allah's leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah's leave. And I announce unto you what ye eat and what ye store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you, if ye are to be believers.

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                              وَمُصَدِّقًا لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَلأُحِلَّ لَكُمْ بَعْضَ الَّذِي حُرِّمَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَجِئْتُكُمْ بِآَيَةٍ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُونِ (50)
                              And (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden unto you. I come unto you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me.

                              إِنَّ اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبُّكُمْ فَاعْبُدُوهُ هَذَا صِرَاطٌ مُسْتَقِيمٌ (51)"-آل عمران

                              Lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.

                              Now can a wise person find in these verses any words even if a mere indication to embodiment or anything that may be interpreted, even fancied, as God taught Eissa (Jesus) PBUH Taurat and Bible while he was still in his mother’s womb? I wonder if mother’s wombs contain elementary schools, kindergartens, schools and universities! There is nothing in the **** that illustrates that education was completed before the birth of Eissa (Jesus) PBUH. Rather, the **** is clear in its indication of his being held in honour and his early ability to speak while he was still in the cradle an din old age, and his learning the book, wisdom, Taurat and Gospel, and sending him to the children of Israel (Bani Israel). All this would take place after his birth. Let’s notice, as for his learning the book, wisdom, Taurat and Gospel that these were followed by his speaking to people in the cradle and old age. Besides, his speaking to people in the cradle and old age did not happen till after his being born. In addition, the action here is the same one there i.e. present tense verb while it cannot be said that both matters have a certain time which differs from that of the occurrence of the other. Moreover, the present tense never denotes past tense in such con****. All this makes it impossible that the education of Jesus by God was completed while he was still in the world of the womb and did not come to the world yet! Thus, how can education be completed before the existence of the learner? Here lies the impossibility itself. The learner must exist first so that education may be applied in the second place. This is a commonsense whose overlooking cannot be forgiven. However, since when people observes commonsensical matters or respect logical aspects.

                              As for what the preacher mentioned in the comparison between both religions: Mohammed’s and Eissa’s (Jesus)religions and what these two great men brought, we say that we do not disagree greatly with him in what he said that “the revelation of Mohammed brought the Koran and Shariah (legislation) book. As for the revelation conclusion to the Messiah, it is his own self because his bible is not a shariah (legislation); rather, it is a manifestation of his life, sayings and a de******ion of his personality. Therefore, Islam is a shariah and not merely worship or a collection of morals. This shariah (legislation) covers all aspects of life and human civilization activities as known. As for the religion of Jesus, it is no more than preaching lectures immersed in idealism which are not proper for any social or cultural structure at all. Hence, we understand, the emphasis of the Messiah that his kingdom does not belong to this world is a sincere statement as what the scribers of gospels have attributed to him of moral preaching are mere vain words which are futile and not a substitute of hunger.

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                                Furthermore, the acts attributed to him here may cause destruction of societies which try to rely on them: for example how can a community or some culture attempt to dispense with work and money altogether according to the commands given by Eissa to his disciples? In other words, how a society or culture can be based on giving away to criminals not for what they want only but for more than what they might dream of so that if a thief attacks you and wants to take away your clothes, you should cede your إزارunderneath clothing as well…etc. till the end of what we know about the mountain sermon and the like of the beautiful well-phrased words in the gospels which do not feed a mouth. By the way, إزار is the garment which covers the lower part of the body. Hence, we the reader sees me always saying that he should in this case go naked. This would mean that whoever attacks a man strolling along the Nile Cornish accompanying his wife and daughter and kidnapped the latter and ran away, this man should call him and hand him his wife as well. Then he should climb the hedge of the Nile Cornish and jump into deep water so that he may drown and be at rest. Finally, we would not miss to attract your attention to the saying of the preacher while he was getting confused about the Messiah from a paragraph to another, rather from a line to another sometimes: “the Messiah is the revelation of God in particular”. This illustrates that he PBUH is not God, as the revelation of God is one thing and God is another. Otherwise, is there anyone who would be insane enough to refute this? At any case, praise be to Allah, no one else can be praised for a mishap nor for a good happening for the kind preacher has reduced the Messiah with his superior rank to being a mere revelation!

                                Anyway, Eissa was not the only one who used “to say”, this is a general matter with other prophets as they used as well “to say”
                                These are some evidence:

                                "وَإِذْ قَالَ إِبْرَاهِيمُ لأَبِيهِ آَزَرَ أَتَتَّخِذُ أَصْنَامًا آَلِهَةً إِنِّي أَرَاكَ وَقَوْمَكَ فِي ضَلالٍ مُبِينٍ" (الأنعام/ 74)

                                (Remember) when Abraham said unto his father Azar: Takest thou idols for gods ? Lo! I see thee and thy folk in error manifest.

                                "فَلَمَّا رَأَى (أى إبراهيم) الشَّمْسَ بَازِغَةً قَالَ هَذَا رَبِّي هَذَا أَكْبَرُ فَلَمَّا أَفَلَتْ قَالَ يَا قَوْمِ إِنِّي بَرِيءٌ مِمَّا تُشْرِكُونَ* إِنِّي وَجَّهْتُ وَجْهِيَ لِلَّذِي فَطَرَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ حَنِيفًا وَمَا أَنَا مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ* وَحَاجَّهُ قَوْمُهُ قَالَ أَتُحَاجُّونِّي فِي اللَّهِ وَقَدْ هَدَانِ وَلا أَخَافُ مَا تُشْرِكُونَ بِهِ إِلا أَنْ يَشَاءَ رَبِّي شَيْئًا وَسِعَ رَبِّي كُلَّ شَيْءٍ عِلْمًا أَفَلا تَتَذَكَّرُونَ* وَكَيْفَ أَخَافُ مَا أَشْرَكْتُمْ وَلا تَخَافُونَ أَنَّكُمْ أَشْرَكْتُمْ بِاللَّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِ عَلَيْكُمْ سُلْطَانًا فَأَيُّ الْفَرِيقَيْنِ أَحَقُّ بِالأَمْنِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ* الَّذِينَ آَمَنُوا وَلَمْ يَلْبِسُوا إِيمَانَهُمْ بِظُلْمٍ أُولَئِكَ لَهُمُ الأَمْنُ وَهُمْ مُهْتَدُونَ" (الأنعام/ 78- 82)،
                                And when he saw the sun uprising, he cried: This is my Lord! This is greater! And when it set he exclaimed: O my people! Lo! I am free from all that ye associate (with Him).
                                Lo! I have turned my face toward Him Who created the heavens and the earth, as one by nature upright, and I am not of the idolaters. His people argued with him. He said: Dispute ye with me concerning Allah when He hath guided me? I fear not at all that which ye set up beside Him unless my Lord willeth aught. My Lord includeth all things in His knowledge. Will ye not then remember? How should I fear that which ye set up beside Him, when ye fear not to set up beside Allah that for which He hath revealed unto you no warrant? Which of the two factions hath more right to safety? (Answer me that) if ye have knowledge. Those who believe and obscure not their belief by wrongdoing, theirs is safety; and they are rightly guided.


                                "لَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا نُوحًا إِلَى قَوْمِهِ فَقَالَ يَا قَوْمِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ مَا لَكُمْ مِنْ إِلَهٍ غَيْرُهُ إِنِّي أَخَافُ عَلَيْكُمْ عَذَابَ يَوْمٍ عَظِيمٍ* قَالَ الْمَلا مِنْ قَوْمِهِ إِنَّا لَنَرَاكَ فِي ضَلالٍ مُبِينٍ* قَالَ يَا قَوْمِ لَيْسَ بِي ضَلالَةٌ وَلَكِنِّي رَسُولٌ مِنْ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ* أُبَلِّغُكُمْ رِسَالاتِ رَبِّي وَأَنْصَحُ لَكُمْ وَأَعْلَمُ مِنَ اللَّهِ مَا لا تَعْلَمُونَ* أَوَعَجِبْتُمْ أَنْ جَاءَكُمْ ذِكْرٌ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ عَلَى رَجُلٍ مِنْكُمْ لِيُنْذِرَكُمْ وَلِتَتَّقُوا وَلَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ فَكَذَّبُوهُ فَأَنْجَيْنَاهُ وَالَّذِينَ مَعَهُ فِي الْفُلْكِ وَأَغْرَقْنَا الَّذِينَ كَذَّبُوا بِآَيَاتِنَا إِنَّهُمْ كَانُوا قَوْمًا عَمِينَ* وَإِلَى عَادٍ أَخَاهُمْ هُودًا قَالَ يَا قَوْمِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ مَا لَكُمْ مِنْ إِلَهٍ غَيْرُهُ أَفَلا تَتَّقُونَ* قَالَ الْمَلا الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِنْ قَوْمِهِ إِنَّا لَنَرَاكَ فِي سَفَاهَةٍ وَإِنَّا لَنَظُنُّكَ مِنَ الْكَاذِبِينَ* قَالَ يَا قَوْمِ لَيْسَ بِي سَفَاهَةٌ وَلَكِنِّي رَسُولٌ مِنْ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ* أُبَلِّغُكُمْ رِسَالاتِ رَبِّي وَأَنَا لَكُمْ نَاصِحٌ أَمِينٌ* أَوَعَجِبْتُمْ أَنْ جَاءَكُمْ ذِكْرٌ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ عَلَى رَجُلٍ مِنْكُمْ لِيُنْذِرَكُمْ وَاذْكُرُوا إِذْ جَعَلَكُمْ خُلَفَاءَ مِنْ بَعْدِ قَوْمِ نُوحٍ وَزَادَكُمْ فِي الْخَلْقِ بَسْطَةً فَاذْكُرُوا آَلاءَ اللَّهِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ* قَالُوا أَجِئْتَنَا لِنَعْبُدَ اللَّهَ وَحْدَهُ وَنَذَرَ مَا كَانَ يَعْبُدُ آَبَاؤُنَا فَأْتِنَا بِمَا تَعِدُنَا إِنْ كُنْتَ مِنَ الصَّادِقِينَ* قَالَ قَدْ وَقَعَ عَلَيْكُمْ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ رِجْسٌ وَغَضَبٌ أَتُجَادِلُونَنِي فِي أَسْمَاءٍ سَمَّيْتُمُوهَا أَنْتُمْ وَآَبَاؤُكُمْ مَا نَزَّلَ اللَّهُ بِهَا مِنْ سُلْطَانٍ فَانْتَظِرُوا إِنِّي مَعَكُمْ مِنَ الْمُنْتَظِرِينَ* فَأَنْجَيْنَاهُ وَالَّذِينَ مَعَهُ بِرَحْمَةٍ مِنَّا وَقَطَعْنَا دَابِرَ الَّذِينَ كَذَّبُوا بِآَيَاتِنَا وَمَا كَانُوا مُؤْمِنِينَ* وَإِلَى ثَمُودَ أَخَاهُمْ صَالِحًا قَالَ يَا قَوْمِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ مَا لَكُمْ مِنْ إِلَهٍ غَيْرُهُ قَدْ جَاءَتْكُمْ بَيِّنَةٌ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ هَذِهِ نَاقَةُ اللَّهِ لَكُمْ آَيَةً فَذَرُوهَا تَأْكُلْ فِي أَرْضِ اللَّهِ وَلا تَمَسُّوهَا بِسُوءٍ فَيَأْخُذَكُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ * وَاذْكُرُوا إِذْ جَعَلَكُمْ خُلَفَاءَ مِنْ بَعْدِ عَادٍ وَبَوَّأَكُمْ فِي الأَرْضِ تَتَّخِذُونَ مِنْ سُهُولِهَا قُصُورًا وَتَنْحِتُونَ الْجِبَالَ بُيُوتًا فَاذْكُرُوا آَلاءَ اللَّهِ وَلا تَعْثَوْا فِي الأَرْضِ مُفْسِدِينَ" (الأعراف( 59- 74 :

                                (We sent Noah (of old) unto his people, and he said: O my people! Serve Allah. Ye have no other God save Him. Lo! I fear for you the retribution of an Awful Day.
                                The chieftains of his people said: Lo! we see thee surely in plain error.
                                He said: O my people! There is no error in me, but I am a messenger from the Lord of the Worlds.
                                I convey unto you the messages of my Lord and give good counsel unto you, and know from Allah that which ye know not. Marvel ye that there should come unto you a Reminder from your Lord by means of a man among you, that he may warn you, and that ye may keep from evil, and that haply ye may find mercy. But they denied him, so We saved him and those with him in the ship, and We drowned those who denied Our tokens. Lo! they were blind folk.
                                And unto (the tribe of) A'ad (We sent) their brother, Hud. He said: O my people! Serve Allah. Ye have no other God save Him. Will ye not ward off (evil)? The chieftains of his people, who were disbelieving, said: Lo! we surely see thee in foolishness, and lo! we deem thee of the liars. He said: O my people! There is no foolishness in me, but I am a messenger from the Lord of the Worlds. I convey unto you the messages of my Lord and am for you a true adviser.
                                Marvel ye that there should come unto you a Reminder from your Lord by means of a man among you, that he may warn you ? Remember how He made you viceroys after Noah's folk, and gave you growth of stature. Remember (all) the bounties of your Lord, that haply ye may be successful. They said: Hast come unto us that we should serve Allah alone, and forsake what our fathers worshipped ? Then bring upon us that wherewith thou threatenest us if thou art of the truthful! He said: Terror and wrath from your Lord have already fallen on you. Would ye wrangle with me over names which ye have named, ye and your fathers, for which no warrant from Allah hath been revealed ? Then await (the consequence), lo! I (also) am of those awaiting (it). And We saved him and those with him by a mercy from Us, and We cut the root of those who denied Our revelations and were not believers. And to (the tribe of) Thamud (We sent) their brother Salih. He said: O my people! Serve Allah. Ye have no other God save Him. A wonder from your Lord hath come unto you. Lo! this is the camel of Allah, a token unto you; so let her feed in Allah's earth, and touch her not with hurt lest painful torment seize you.

                                And remember how He made you viceroys after A'ad and gave you station in the earth. Ye choose castles in the plains and hew the mountains into dwellings. So remember (all) the bounties of Allah and do not evil, making mischief in the earth.)

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