Which makes more sense Islam or Christianity

[محمد سني 1989]

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Please give the quote and prove it. Just saying in a previous response, I said this and you said that doesn't cut it friend; you do that a lot even in most of your arguments on Scriptures - see the quote below as my point.



Here is an example of you saying the Bible is corrupted over the years without proof or an example. You just go by what your leaders tell you or what you read on the internet.

You asked for a name not a proof , focus and becareful. I also stated the unknown editors of Mark , Matthew , Luke and John were also involved . The ending of Mark did not exist and was added to the gospel of Mark in the late 5th century as an example.

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Yes it is. Did Allah send down the torah and gospel for guidance and light to Islam's messenger? If you answer yes, I rest my case. Why would Allah guard his later word and not his earlier word? Where is the logic and reason behind it? God gave us intelligence man. So I am using it, and concluded that your position makes NO SENSE man! Please answer these questions and stop avoiding them.

No , God did not sent down the ORIGINAL torah and gospel as a guidance and light to the prophet rather as a guidance and light to the followers of Moses and Jesus. God would guard his later words because it is his last words sent down with the last messenger. However the previous scriptures were not his last and the prophets were not the last prophets. I already explained this in my last response. I NEVER avoided it , you just did not read it

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Well, according to you, man did get the upper hand by changing Allah's word and making it corrupted which was not Allah's will; so, he had to send his word again and guard what he wouldn't or couldn't do the first time. This logic is insane man, and only you are willing to believe it. Besides, written Scripture corruption is not the reason God kept sending prophets.

I said one of the reasons and I emphasized it , the fact that you stated the contrary shows that you are skimming through my response:

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Meaning that one of the reasons god sent prophets to the israelites was that they kept manipulating the OT , and by those prophets God has revealed his righteousness

plus you said this :

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It is because they disobeyed the torah in their written interpretation and in their actions which were recorded as God inspired the prophets to do. That, FYI, is not Biblical corruption!

Yet in other thread you admitted to errors in the torah but you called it typos!!!!

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What attempts to corrupt the Scriptures that came before is the Quran especially after Uthman recompiled it and destroyed the evidence (Original Qurans).

That is lie and you know it. I already proved you false in this matter but you keep bringing it up :

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Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to `Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. ........So `Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to `Uthman........They did so, and when they had written many copies, `Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. `Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt.

Sahih al-Bukhari 4987,Vol. 6, Book 61, Hadith 510

The orginal Quran was returned to Hafsa during Uthman's time , can't be more clear than that.

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Allah told Muhammad as recorded in the Quran that he sent down the torah and gospel to him for guidance and light.

That is a lie. look above

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. Variations in the different manuscripts are not corruptions. Moreover, inspired by God doesn't mean that God wrote it the way the Quran was supposedly written or the way the ten commandments were actually written by the finger of God. You are not making sense. I told you that men inspired by God means they wrote the way they understood and saw things from God. There is bound to be some variation that doesn't effect the central gospel message. You say it does, but you, as always, give NO Proof. You are all talk man, and you know not what manner of spirit you have.
You are deceiving yourself here. Sorry to have to say this but, it appears to me that knowledge and truth are who you have made your enemies and ignorance and deception are who you prefer for friends.

Not varriations between different manuscripts rather between different manuscripts and ALSO different from the ALL EARLIER manuscripts. Such variations can only mean that it was not inspired by God !!!!
No proof!!!!! Are you convincing me or your self

When Mark's original ending ends with :

”8 And they went out and fled from the tomb, for trembling and astonishment had seized them, and they said nothing to anyone, for they were afraid.

Then this means that the writer of the gospel of Mark never believed that Jesus appeared to the deciples after he died !!!!! Are you saying this does not hurt the central message !!!!

It seems to me that your closest friend is deception and your weapon is ignorance and avoidance , your enemies are truth and knowledge , and your driving skill is fear from truth. But unfortunatelly that does not surprise me , the history of the church is filled with this.


This brings me up to ask you another question : Are such variations from different writters indpired by God???

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And what is the point you're trying to make here?

This is a response to your understanding about the Quran , the verses which are praising previous followers of prophets are to certain people while the ones cursing them are to another , thats why I put the examples above

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You are the one that is doing too much talking and saying nothing; why do I have to quote the verse when you know the verses I am referring to from the Quran?

LOL because you are talking about things that do not exist in the quran or verses that are actually talking about somethng different that what you are describing. So you are saying squat my friend nothing .

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Why don't you give the quote I am saying if you know your Quran? Proof I am quoting what it means incorrectly?

That is not my responsibility . It is a debator's reponsibility to quote right and be ready before a debate and not just say stuff out of his mind that is not how debates work my friend plus the verses you are talking about do not exist!!!!

Where in the Quran did God say that the torah and gospel as light and guidanceto the prophet !!!!!!!!

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If what I say about the Quran is true, why do you need the quotation from me?

LOL , because it is not . You are simply throwing accusations and creating things that do not exist in the Quran. As I said before ignorance is your weapon

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Don't you know it? When you quote the Bible, I don't need the reference unless I challenge you on it. I know what the Bible says. It seems you need the reference for the Quran for some reason, uhm, why to prove to you I read it???

ummmm , how about debate integrity , something which you obviously lack

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Jesus is saying we are not honoring Him unless we honor Him above our parents, family, friends, life, and above all. You quote this verse out of ignorance to its meaning, context and connotation which makes my case about you true.

Yes that is the mainstream interpritation of christianity , but still there is a big question mark on the word hate. plus it was a response to you
Why use hate , plus the context did no mention what you are saying!!!

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Peace,,, and I pray you come to the knowledge of truth and not dig in your heels over this post!

I will pray the same for you but remember I stated two questions for you above which I expect an answer in the next response of yours, lets see if you will answer or will you ignore it ??