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Burninglight
. Nice to know their are similarities. Up to this point it appears Islam has perfectly borrowed the information from its source or from where it was documented first.
The Bible doesn't teach that Adam didn't know it was wrong to eat or touch the tree or right not to after God told him. This is your interpretation. Common sense should teach you that God wouldn't put blame on Adam if he didn't know it was wrong to eat from the tree. When the Bible refers to Adam, often it means both Adam and Eve because they were one flesh.
Adam was free to choose to eat or not, but he wasn't free from the consequences of his actions. This is where mankind has learned to pass the buck. Adam said the woman did it and the woman said Satan did it. The fact is according to the Bible all were guilty. As it is today. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ. Satan is still deceiving people the same way today with the lust if the eye, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life. IOW, man is still falling for lust for power, money and sex. When Islam's messenger first got his revelation, he panicked thinking he was demon possessed. He listen to his wife who assured him it was from Allah, and that he was a messenger. A woman encouraged Islam's prophet. I ask myself, "Could this be the same trick of Satan that Adam fell for by listen to Eve?"
Blessing to you and, may we both come to the knowledge of truth.
this is your misconception and interpretations. god gave equal blame but the punishment was different, because God made a distinction between the genders of His creation. You error not knowing the Scriptures.
So you believe Satan is right and God is wrong? That is sad.
Satan was mixing truth with lies. It is what we see cults and false religions doing today. They take some truth from the Bible and twist and turn the rest of it to make people wrong doers.
No were does the Bible say God was afraid. This is just you making incorrect inferences.
The Bible doesn't show disagreement with this scenario per se nor do I.
There is no indication that the Bible is in disagreement with this either. Man knows to ask God for forgiveness now so we must have learned it from our father Adam
Who was he a messenger for the animals? There is no indication that he was a prophet or messenger, but he did I assume have responsibility to teach his family to obey God.
Christianity doesn't teach us that we inherit sin. We inherit the propensity to sin. That is why people often fail when they are tempted. Everyone has fallen from time to time. If anyone says they haven't he is a liar.
Yes, the Bible teaches us we are responsible for our own action. It even teaches us we are responsible for out words and thoughts, but we have carnal weaknesses that we have inherited from Adam; Jesus is the last Adam who is the only way to be right with God. Satan says no you can be good and trust the benevolence of God to forgive you, but that is Satan tricking you like he did Adam. He wants you to meet God on your terms and not God's terms. the message is clear. You ignore it at your own spiritual peril
Blessings to you.
I just read your response and I see many misunderstandings and mistakes here :
First God does put the blame on Eve , The idea here is that the bible tells us that the serpent only tricked eve and eve tricked adam while in the quran they were both tricked by satan. So ultimately the fact that Adam peace be upon him ate was because of Eve, the context of Genesis clearly shows this :
[The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree and I ate it] (Genesis 3:12)
Then even in the punishment of adam Adam is blamed FOR LISTENING TO EVE NOT THE SERPANT :
[Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree … cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life] (Genesis 3:17)
More clearly is what first god said to Eve :
13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
Genesis 3:13
Here God clearly BLAMES EVE ONLY FOR SHE WAS THE ONE WHO LISTENED TO SATAN .
This is clearly stated in the writtings of paul :
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.
1 Timothy 2:14
Second as for what sister huria stated here :
According to the Bible, God had said that when Adam eats from the tree he would surely die,
“but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die..” Genesis 2:17
and the serpent said they will not surely die.
The serpent was right—they did not die.]
Then you come up and accuse her of god lying !!!!!!
She did not accuse god of anything we do not belive in the bible but you do . She is showing you what THE BIBLE ACCUSES GOD , either this or we have a clear CONTRADICTION try to understand what others are saying before throwing such accusations
Third yes the bible does show disagreement :
15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
Genesis 2: 15
So Adam was created to take care of the garden of eden. That was the purpose of creation
Fourth According to the bible Adam did not know how to be forgiven or at least according to christianity he was not forgiven since it was inherited :
12Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- 13for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come
Romans 5:12-14
Fifth Adam peace be upon him was a messenger to his own children his first generation including kain , abael and seth and there sixty brothers and sisters according to islamic tradition also seth peace be upon him is also considered a prophet
You might object to this idea but I could ask you that Noa was a messenger but did he stop being a messenger after the flood???
Sixth the old testement does not teach us that sin is inherited but christianity do :
one example :
12Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-
Romans 5:12
Seven : Christianity clearly teaches us that himanity inherited a simple sin from eating from a tree and that without the sacrifice of the son of god death was upon humanity , the quote is death in Adam, Life in Jesus!!!!!
Satan never said that : 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
Genesis 3:5
Satan wants you to think you are doomed and you have no hope so that you can say whats the point
Satan is also crafty in another way; he comes and tells you are free from sin as long as you believe in that the son of god has taken the burdon and has died for any possible sin you could commit but ONLY AS LONG YOU BELIEVE IN THAT IDEA!!
peace to you and may god guide you to truth
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