Salam Aleikom

[German.Bergheim]

Thank you for your numerous comments and statements
Unfortunately I cannot answer to every one, because it would take too much time Moreover I cannot answer only in one sentence

First of all In Christianity there are not three Gods

There is the only God, figured as the Father, then there is his Son Jesus and then there is the Spirit

You are open to define what this means, spirit can be characterized as the message of humanity, being in all of us, preferably filled with ethical comprehension and recognition


Second of all, I am a Christian (evangelischer Protestant) Our belief is open-minded and not narrow-minded to the Bible only, we are not bond to the Bible, because in our belief the Bible is not given nor written by God, but human-made

This implies that the Bible is a book as a pattern of thinking, it suggests you advice, it suggests you proposals
According to our moral, ethical view, our education, our knowledge we are free to think what we want, but we are responsible towards ourselves as well as towards other people

Now to the central question, someone of you has put

Why are humans created according to Christianity?

Yes, this is a very complex question and as complex is the answer

The answer depends on your approach

A theologian would answer that humankind is created to exist and produce on earth associated with the problems that normally arise between humans and also acknowledging that there is a vis major, mostly called God

A scientist would answer that humankind has the knowledge to exist on earth and to make use of all the science

A sociologist would answer that you have the responsibility for yourself and for the society of humans

There are more answers or you can choose to take a little or all of them, but in the end it is your own opinion.

Regarding religion I confirm that thinking about humankind, nature and science you cannot be ignorant and you have to put questions. But the answers vary, from your point of view and so do religions also

But you cannot claim that one answer is the only right one. Ok, you can pretend for your behalf to have found the one and only answer, but that is only your opinion


As long as it is your opinion I accept it and I do not have any problems with or against that, but I cannot accept that some people proclaim to have found the one and only right answer

[الفضة]

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Regarding religion I confirm that thinking about humankind, nature and science you cannot be ignorant and you have to put questions. But the answers vary, from your point of view and so do religions also

But you cannot claim that one answer is the only right one. Ok, you can pretend for your behalf to have found the one and only answer, but that is only your opinion


As long as it is your opinion I accept it and I do not have any problems with or against that, but I cannot accept that some people proclaim to have found the one and only right answer

well ,


I know that you keep saying that you're an evangelic protestant but these words seem Agnostic to me .


I agree with you that people are different in so many things ,some of them are uncultured , illiterate or ignorant ,disabled, mentally -ill ......& so on

but in Islam we're talking about those who have the knowledge & keep ignoring Allah's commandements.



7|33|Say: My Lord forbiddeth only indecencies, such of them as are apparent and such as are within, and sin and wrongful oppression, and that ye associate with Allah that for which no warrant hath been revealed, and that ye tell concerning Allah that which ye know not.


39|9|Is he who payeth adoration in the watches of the night, prostrate and standing, bewaring of the Hereafter and hoping for the mercy of his Lord, (to be accounted equal with a disbeliever)? Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Are those who know equal with those who know not? But only men of understanding will pay heed.



the Prophet (saws) said: "The pen is raised for three groups [of people]—(that is, they will not be responsible for their actions): the insane until they become sane, those who are sleeping until they awaken, and the young until they reach the age of puberty."

Related by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, and at-Tirmidhi.




We believe that Allah sent his messengers all over the world

10|47|And for every nation there is a messenger. And when their messenger cometh (on the Day of Judgment) it will be judged between them fairly, and they will not be wronged.

17|15|Whosoever goeth right, it is only for (the good of) his own soul that he goeth right, and whosoever erreth, erreth only to its hurt. No laden soul can bear another's load. We never punish until We have sent a messenger


please let's focus on Islam & Christianity
we're not gonna discuss Buddhism here,
Islam denies that Jesus is son of God
We deny that the Holy Spirit is God..

[مهدي بنزياد]

اخوتي الكرام
هذا الضيف الكريم تفكيره مختلف.. هو يتعامل مع الدين و كأنه ليس هنلك اي دين حقيقي حسب كلامه هو . و يتعامل مع الدين و كأنه مكمل و ليس اساسيا و لا يسعى من خلاله لا جنة او لنار . الكثير من الناس في الغرب هكذا . هم يبحثون عن شيء يملأون به فراغهم الروحي و في نفس الوقت يمارسون شهواتهم .
سوف تجدون مشكلة كبيرة معه. لكن يجب ا\ن تركزوا فقط على المعاني الجميلة في الاسلام و الروحانيات الاسلامية . ركزوا ركزوا على الروحانيات...
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as i know muslim women should not be married to a non-muslim man.
a im right ??

[ابو علي الفلسطيني]

In the name of Allah the Compassionate, the Merciful

I really regard what you're saying Mr. German ... but you must know that because people are following what the think is the right and do not follow God's orders or don't accept his guidance to hem they make mistakes and get far away from the right choices ....
In Islam God never force you to do something you don't want to .. but God tells you the right way to follow... if you don't accept it then you will bear the responsibility for your choice ...

I want to ask you a question... do you love your wife??? if so let suppose that she will choose to follow God's way ...can you force her not to do?
you can't ... because she has the right to worship one God and to do what God wants her to do ...

there are many differences between you and her ... she follows God but you follow your own mind ... that's why i advice you to think more and more ... all of us will be judged in the judgment day and those who deny God's path will be punished so think of the matter again and again ... Islam is the only way for your salvation ...

we can prove to you that Christianity is totally wrong ...and we have clear evidences that you can't deny ...

I really pray to God to help you and choose the right way

[Authentic Man]

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First of all In Christianity there are not three Gods

There is the only God, figured as the Father, then there is his Son Jesus and then there is the Spirit

Well,
The Father +His Son + The Spirit = 1 not 3
All are one God!!!
Is Jesus the Father?
No!!!

Is Jesus the Spirit?
No!!!

Is the Spirit the Father?
No!!!

But the three are only one!!!

So, Is Jesus a part of God?
Is Father a part of God?
Is the Spirit a part of God?

No!!!

OK
The Father ≠ His Son ≠ The Spirit
They are different, right?
As each hypostasis has his own qualities and roles

If we say each hypostasis is God
The Father ≠ His Son ≠ The Spirit
So,
God ≠ God ≠ God ≠ 1


So, they are 3 Gods not one

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Now, we have something more exciting,
Why do you consider Jesus the God's son although all people are God's children?

Let the Bible Speak:
M't 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

So, the idea of trinity must be one of the following:
Father + Son + Chidren + Spirit
So it's fourfold !!!!
or
Father + Chidren + Spirit

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Do you consider Jesus - the God who died according to your belief - a God?!!!

He is dead!!!
Do you worship a dead God?!!!

I know you would say" He is not dead. He
M't 28:6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. 7: And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead

Great!!!
What did they see?!!!
They saw the Devil, Satan

Let the Bible Speak
M't 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
M't 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

The prophcy of Christ bacame true, but you did listened to his order " believe it not" !!!

His followers were of little faith, they doubted him while he was alive, and didn't apply what he ordered after his death!!!!
He said "believe it not" but they believed!!!

M't 16:8 Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?

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spirit can be characterized as the message of humanity, being in all of us, preferably filled with ethical comprehension and recognition

This means the spirit is in humans, right?
What a weak God?!!!!

If you had God in you, would you do a tiny mistake?!!!
Why do we hear day and night about thousands of rape, children abuse, adultry, stealing,...etc. in churches and in streets?!!!

Where is the spirit?!!!
Does spirit like that?!!!
Isn't it strong enough to stop people committing such crimes?!!!

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we are not bond to the Bible, because in our belief the Bible is not given nor written by God, but human-made

This implies that the Bible is a book as a pattern of thinking, it suggests you advice, it suggests you proposals

Great to admit that the Bible is human-made..
That means, it's not Divine anymore!!!

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According to our moral, ethical view, our education, our knowledge we are free to think what we want, but we are responsible towards ourselves as well as towards other people

Well, what are the criteria of the ideal way of thinking?!!!
Doesn't it differ from one to another?
A women-rapist thinks all women's bodies are his!!!
A bank robber thinks that all banks money is his!!!
A cruel father thinks his way is the best to bring up his children in a healthy way!!!

So, we need a sound accurate constitution to control peoples behaviours and deeds

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Why are humans created according to Christianity?
The answer depends on your approach

The answer must be from the Christian point of view included with evidence, not personal or points of view!!!!

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Regarding religion I confirm that thinking about humankind, nature and science you cannot be ignorant and you have to put questions. But the answers vary, from your point of view and so do religions also

Where is the answer?!!!
Please answer the question according to your own belief
Why wrer humans created?

best regards