Which makes more sense Islam or Christianity

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You asked for a name not a proof

No, I asked for proof, and I receive none!

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The orginal Quran was returned to Hafsa during Uthman's time , can't be more clear than that.
This brings me up to ask you another question : Are such variations from different writters indpired by God???

Variations are not inspired, but the message we get out of the manuscripts after correcting nonsense errors are. Man makes mistakes in spite of that we can still see what God was doing and saying. It doesn't hurt the central gospel message. If you think it does, say how. Do you even know what the central gospel message is?

As for Hafsa's copy being returned, this is known, but you neglect to mention that it was also destroyed after her death. Why didn't Allah guard what Uthman used to recompile the Quran you now use? This does nothing to inspire trust or to prove you now have a Quran that was perfectly preserved much less proof that it is God's word.

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That is not my responsibility . It is a debator's reponsibility to quote right and be ready before a debate and not just say stuff out of his mind that is not how debates work my friend plus the verses you are talking about do not exist!!!!

fair enough

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ummmm , how about debate integrity , something which you obviously lack

You used the wrong word try debate etiquette instead of debate integrity, but fair enough.

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Yes that is the mainstream interpritation of christianity , but still there is a big question mark on the word hate. plus it was a response to you
Why use hate , plus the context did no mention what you are saying!!!

That was the word used, but I know how Jesus meant it in context even though that wasn't stated, and you don't want to learn.

I will pray the same for you but remember I stated two questions for you above which I expect an answer in the next response of yours, lets see if you will answer or will you ignore it ??[/QUOTE] Okay lets give you the quote integrity you want. The Quran states about the Injil:

And in their footsteps, We sent 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) confirming the Taurat (Torah) that had come before him, and We gave him the Injeel (Gospel), in which was guidance and light and confirmation of the Taurat (Torah) that had come before it, a guidance and an admonition for Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V.2:2). S. 5:46 Al-Hilali & Khan; cf. S. 57:27 (By the way didn't Allah know that Maryam was NOT the name of Jesus' Mother? Is that an error?)

He [Jesus] said, "Lo, I am God's servant; God has given me the Book, and made me a Prophet." S. 19:30 Arberry (BTW, there is nothing to back up that God sent Jesus a Book in the Scriptures that came before)

It is He Who has sent down the Book (the Qur'an) to you (Muhammad SAW) with truth, confirming what came before it. And he sent down the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel). S. 3:3 Al-Hilali & Khan (This would have been a perfect place for Allah to state that the torah and injeel were missing or corrupted, but he didn't)

Sura 5:46 states that the Injil was given to Jesus by Allah. What I tried to tell you that you said didn't exist is in Sura 19:30 and 3:3 confirms that the Injil is a book just as the Qur'an and the Torah are books that were sent down by Allah with no mention of corruption or a missing injil. In fact, Allah tells Muhammad the Quran which means recitation was supposed to confirm the Scripture that came before, but it doesn't confirm it; instead it usurps it.

The Qur'an SAYS MORE regarding the Injil:

Let the people of the Injeel (Gospel) judge by what Allah has revealed therein. ... S. 5:47 Al-Hilali & Khan That is me, I am the person of the Book speaking to 1989!!!

Say: "People of the Book, you do not stand on anything, until you perform the Torah and the Gospel [Injil], and what was sent down to you from your Lord." ... S. 5:68 Arberry
We do this. and we have received the torah and Injil from our Lord, but you would have us doubt AS ACCURATE what your book confirms we have received!!!

Those who follow the messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel [Injil] (which are) with them. S. 7:157 Pickthall

[Say (O Muhammad SAW)] "Shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is He Who has sent down unto you the Book (The Qur'an), explained in detail." Those unto whom We gave the Scripture [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] know that it is revealed from your Lord in truth. So be not you of those who doubt. S. 6:114 Al-Hilali & Khan This verse here proves to you that I didn't just make things up: The torah and gospel were sent to us and Allah tells (O Muhammad) this and he says nothing about it being corrupted. We still have the same torah and gospel Allah said he sent to us and your prophet was a witness to what you now say was corrupted.

To me this verses makes clear that the Injil is the book of the Christians (the people of the Book) (ME), the book that is with me and which we Christians believe in. The Qur'an even tells us Christians to fully obey the Torah and the Injil that they had at the time your prophet was living. Can you answer to that?

I see a discrepancy: When we look at the New Testament our Scriptures, we see that it nowhere makes the claim that it is a book that was "given to Jesus". On the contrary, the New Testament consists of several books that were written by followers of Jesus (under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit) AFTER the ascension of Jesus.

Now please pay attention to this: the Injil can either be a book given to Jesus, or it can be the book that the Christians have as their Scriptures, but it cannot be both. Your prophet Muhammad apparently assumed that the Scripture of the Christians (and Jews) would be very similar to the Qur'an, the book which he thought he received from Allah. However, he was, IMHO, clearly ##### on the matter as you are. As I have mentioned many times to you, the essential nature of the Qur'an and the Bible are very different, but you insist on judging it the way you do the Quran.
IOW, a book "given to Jesus" in the same way as Muhammad claims to have received the Qur'an does not exist. I have never claimed that such a book existed at any time nor do my Christians brothers and sisters. This claim of S. 5:46 is merely a wrong idea that sprang from the mind of your prophet.

Had the author of the Qur'an made only statements like those found in S. 5:46 and 19:30, it might have been an option for Muslims to claim that the Injil of Jesus was simply lost. Jesus received such a book but, somehow, it disappeared. Muslims could have said that the NT clearly is something very different from the Injil as defined by the Qur'an, and could have concluded that therefore they do not believe in the Christian New Testament since the Qur'an does not endorse it, but instead the Quran imperfectly borrows the virgin birth story of Jesus from the Injil and denies the reason for his virgin birth instead of confirming it like Allah TOLD HIS MESSENGER IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. You are stuck with a mess here.

The Qur'an identifies the Injil as the Scripture of the Christians, right? Since the Injil is the book of the Christians, the Qur'an makes a blatantly wrong claim about the basic nature of the Injil being a book given to Jesus. Moreover, we are told to stand on the gospel that was revealed to us and I believe we do and you can never pull us down. The Quran is confusing. When you really observe it carefully, the more confusing it gets, this is another reason Christianity makes more sense with all of its variants.

So tell me how could this misconception arise in the mind of your prophet? He may have heard statements like in the first verse of the Gospel according to Mark: The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, ... I say he could have heard this because he was unread. Seems logical that could've have happened to him.

He could have mistakenly thought that this meant the same as "the Torah of Moses" i.e. a revelation given to a prophet in form of a book. However, reading the context shows that it means "this is the beginning of the Gospel ABOUT Jesus Christ"; the Gospel is the message telling us about the life and teaching of Jesus, written up by his followers, not a book given to Jesus himself.

Islam's prophet projected his own ideas of receiving revelation of a book (the Qur'an) on Jesus and simply assumed that the book of Jesus that was and is still held sacred by his followers and us on the forum here must also have been a book given to Jesus (like the sacred book of the Muslims is the book given to your messenger). However, he was wrong about this, and you follow this error. This mistake exposes the Qur'an you follow, and that is why Christianity makes more sense than Islam. IMHO, the Qur'an is not divine revelation but a collection of mistaken assumptions by its author. When you point your finger at the Bible you have four pointing back at you.

You keep screaming the Bible is corrupted. Many Muslim do this so don't feel singled out. When the Qur'an contradicts the Bible, Muslims shout, "but the Bible is corrupted", as if that is the answer and solution to every such problem. This is the way you deal in debate. The Bible is corrupted it has variants that change the central gospel message, but it doesn't and you have not been able to prove how it has. You have been pawned and can't admit it. Why? Is it pride?

Now let say why crying corruption won't work and kill this thing once and for all.

As I mentioned many times, the Qur'an never claims that the Injil is corrupted. That is an inference you make. There are certain accusations against the Jews, but no charge that the Christians corrupted their Scripture. What the Qur'an says about the Bible, lets investigates this matter closely and it shows that the Qur'an does not support the Muslim claim of NT Bible corruption; in fact, the Quran borrowed from it as I mentioned above. Why would it borrow from a corrupted book. LOL.

Finally, even if there had been more variants then we know of (what you call corruption) of certain passages, these small changes and nonsense errors resulting in certain shifts of meaning don't effect the central gospel message, but you say it does, How? Can you possibly explain the above contradiction in the Qur'an. Here we have a fundamental difference in the nature of the Bible which cannot be accounted for either with gradual changes or with a sudden change. I haven't heard you tell me when it got corrupted, by who, where and how did they benefit from it. How did the injil get corrupted or how did it disappear?

The Qur'an was "sent down" from Allah to Muhammad supposedly. It was (supposedly) not written by your prophet, but given to him by Allah through Gabriel. OTOH, the Hadith are memories of the companions and followers of Muhammad, formulated and written up by Muslims long after the death of Muhammad. They are their recollection of what Muhammad said and did. Some of these memories are rejected by Muslims but some don't such as the satanic verses and many other such things that help us see why Christianity makes more sense than Islam.

Would it be possible for anyone to change the Qur'an (the book given to Muhammad) into a collection of hadiths without the Muslim community realizing that their scripture had changed into something entirely different?

Without doubt, you will say "NO." But if it is impossible for the Muslim book and community, why would you or any Muslim think that this would have been possible in the Christian community? Your thinking is not equal if you didn't think of this. Originally, the Christians had a "book given to Jesus" but one day they woke up and their scripture had turned into a collection of writings by followers of Jesus and nobody realized the change, and nobody protested against it? Belief in this theory demands blind faith in the Qur'an. Common sense will have to conclude that this cannot possibly have happened, and this implies that the author of the Qur'an simply made an error regarding the nature of the Christian Scripture. I guess common sense is not so common, and for this reason Christianity makes more sense than Islam!

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