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Did God Need to Become Incarnate and Die in Order to Forgive

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  • Did God Need to Become Incarnate and Die in Order to Forgive

    Did God Need to Become Incarnate and Die in Order to Forgive

    Christians often argue that Christ became flesh because humanity had sinned, and that sin against an infinite God required an infinite atonement. Therefore, they say, God became man and died on the cross to pay the price for human sin.

    At first glance, this may sound emotionally powerful. But when examined calmly and carefully, it raises serious questions that cannot simply be brushed aside with theological formulas.

    The first and most basic question is this:

    **Where did Jesus himself explicitly say, “I am God incarnate, and I have come to die for your sins”? Where did he say, “Worship me”? Where did he say, “God cannot forgive you unless I am crucified and my blood is shed”?**

    These statements are not found in the clear and direct words of Jesus. Rather, they are later theological interpretations that are read back into the texts.

    In John 17:3, Jesus says while praying to God:

    > “Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.”

    The meaning is clear. The only true God is the One to whom Jesus is praying, and Jesus is the one sent by Him. But is the one who is sent the same as the One who sends? If a prophet is sent by God, does that make the prophet God Himself? And if Jesus is God, why does he distinguish himself from “the only true God”?

    In Mark 12:29, when Jesus is asked about the greatest commandment, he does not say, “Believe in the Trinity,” nor does he say, “Believe that I am God incarnate.” Instead, he says:

    > “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.”

    This is the creed of the prophets: one God — not three-in-one, not a God who dies, and not a Lord who is crucified.

    The central problem with the doctrine of atonement becomes even clearer when we ask a simple question:

    **Who died on the cross?**

    If the answer is, “God died,” then this is impossible, because God does not die. The Bible itself says in 1 Timothy 6:16 that God “alone is immortal.” Habakkuk 1:12 says:

    > “Lord my God, my Holy One, you will never die.”

    So how can the God who cannot die have died?

    If the answer is, “Only the human nature died, while the divine nature did not,” then the argument collapses. Christians claim that sin is infinite and therefore requires an infinite atonement. But if what died was only the human body, and not the divine nature, then what died was not an infinite God. If the divine nature did not die, then the death was not an infinite divine death. And if only the human nature died, then we are left with a limited human sacrifice.

    Terms such as “two natures,” “hypostatic union,” and “incarnation” do not remove the difficulty. The question remains very simple:

    **Did God die or not?**

    If God died, then God is not truly immortal.
    If God did not die, then God did not pay the price through death.

    Then comes the problem of justice.

    Christians say that God is just and therefore must punish sin. But instead of punishing the guilty, He punished the innocent Christ. But is that justice?

    Imagine a murderer standing before a judge. Then an innocent man steps forward and says, “Punish me instead.” If the judge punishes the innocent man and releases the murderer, would we call that judge just? Of course not. We would call his verdict unjust.

    The consent of the innocent person does not turn injustice into justice. Punishing the guiltless does not become right simply because the guiltless person accepts it.

    The Bible itself establishes this principle clearly. Ezekiel 18:20 says:

    > “The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child.”

    Deuteronomy 24:16 says:

    > “Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.”

    So the principle is clear: the guilty person bears his own guilt. The innocent is not punished in his place.

    How, then, can the central doctrine of Christianity become the exact opposite of this principle?

    The claim that God cannot forgive without bloodshed also does not stand up to scrutiny, even within the Bible itself.

    Ezekiel 18:21–22 says that if a wicked person turns away from his sins and does what is just and right, he will surely live and not die, and none of his sins will be remembered against him.

    Where is the blood here?
    Where is the sacrifice?
    Where is the crucifixion?

    There is none. What exists is repentance, return, and moral reform.

    Isaiah 55:7 says:

    > “Let the wicked forsake their ways and the unrighteous their thoughts. Let them turn to the Lord, and he will have mercy on them, and to our God, for he will freely pardon.”

    The text does not say: believe in the blood of God incarnate. It says: abandon evil, return to God, and He will have mercy.

    This is the simple message of the prophets:

    **Repentance is the path to forgiveness.**

    In Psalm 51:16–17, David says:

    > “You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise.”

    This is a clear statement against the idea that God is only satisfied by blood. David speaks of a broken and repentant heart — not of a dying God, not of a cross, and not of an eternal blood atonement.

    The story of Nineveh is even more decisive.

    The people of Nineveh were sinners, so God sent Jonah to warn them. When they repented and turned away from their evil, God accepted their repentance. Jonah 3:10 says:

    > “When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he relented and did not bring on them the destruction he had threatened.”

    Where is the sacrifice?
    Where is the blood?
    Where is the cross?

    None of these appear in the story. They repented, and God forgave them.

    So how can anyone claim that forgiveness is impossible without bloodshed?

    Some Christians refer to Cain and Abel, claiming that God accepted Abel’s offering because it involved blood, while rejecting Cain’s because it came from the ground. But this reads something into the text that the text itself does not say.

    Genesis 4 does not say that Cain’s offering was rejected because it was bloodless. Rather, God says to Cain:

    > “If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door.”

    Cain’s problem was not simply the type of offering he brought. His problem was his state, his conduct, and his heart. God says, “If you do what is right.” The issue is righteousness, piety, and obedience — not a theology of blood.

    Likewise, some point to the garments of skin that God made for Adam and Eve and claim that this represents sacrifice and atonement. But the text does not say that. It simply says that God made garments of skin for them. It does not say that this was an atoning sacrifice. It does not say that blood was shed for forgiveness. And it does not say that this symbolized Christ.

    That interpretation is brought to the text from outside.

    The Qur’an presents the matter with clarity and purity:

    > “Then Adam received from his Lord words, and He accepted his repentance.”

    Adam sinned, then repented, and God accepted his repentance. No crucifixion. No blood sacrifice. No dying God.

    The story of Abraham and the sacrifice is also not evidence for a dying deity or for the Christian doctrine of atonement. The story is about Abraham’s obedience and submission to God’s command.

    Was Abraham’s son guilty of some sin that required the ram to die in his place? No.
    Was the ram bearing the sins of the world? No.
    Does the text say that the ram’s blood forgave humanity’s sins? No.

    Therefore, turning this story into a doctrine of crucifixion and atonement is a leap far beyond the meaning of the text.

    Some also compare the sacrifices of the Old Testament to a kind of “credit system,” saying that those sacrifices were accepted in advance on the basis of Christ’s future blood. This may sound clever rhetorically, but where is the evidence?

    Where did Moses say this?
    Where did Abraham say this?
    Where did David say this?
    Where did Jesus himself say that all previous sacrifices were accepted as credit against his future blood?

    This is a later theological construction, not a clear prophetic teaching.

    Moreover, the book of Hebrews itself says:

    > “It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.”

    But if the blood of bulls and goats could not remove sins, then how did God forgive people before Christ? How did He forgive David? How did He accept the repentance of Nineveh? How did the prophets call people to repentance if repentance was not sufficient?

    The answer is straightforward:

    **God forgives through repentance and mercy — not because He is unable to forgive until blood is shed.**

    Christians also cite the words of John the Baptist:

    > “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!”

    But even if this text is accepted, it is not Jesus saying, “I am God.” It is not Jesus saying, “Worship me.” It is not Jesus saying, “I became incarnate in order to die.”

    It also raises another serious question: if Christ took away the sin of the world, is the entire world saved?

    If the answer is yes, then the doctrines of judgment and punishment collapse.
    If the answer is no, because faith is still required, then the sin of the world was not actually removed unconditionally.

    Even more importantly, Jesus himself worshiped God, prayed to God, and called upon God.

    In John 20:17, Jesus says:

    > “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”

    He says: “my God.”

    Whoever has a God cannot himself be the Supreme God.

    In Matthew 26:39, Jesus prays:

    > “Yet not as I will, but as you will.”

    Here we see one will submitting to another will. We see a servant praying to his Lord. Does God say to God, “Not my will, but Yours”? Does God pray to God? Does God have a God?

    The doctrine of atonement ultimately attributes to God what is unworthy of Him. It makes God unable to forgive unless punishment occurs. Then it makes Him punish the innocent instead of the guilty. It says God does not die, then says God died. It says Christ is God, yet we find Christ praying, worshiping, and saying, “my God and your God.” It says there is no forgiveness without blood, yet the prophets repeatedly present forgiveness through repentance without blood.

    Islam restores this matter to its original purity.

    God is One, not incarnate.
    He is the Living, who does not die.
    He is Just, and does not punish the innocent for the sins of the guilty.
    He is Merciful, and forgives those who repent.
    He is Self-Sufficient, needing neither blood nor cross.

    Allah says:

    > “Say: He is Allah, One. Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, and there is none comparable to Him.”

    This is the creed of the prophets: one Lord, sincere repentance, vast forgiveness, and perfect justice.

    No God who dies.
    No son killed to satisfy the Father.
    No inherited guilt from a sin one did not commit.
    No innocent person bearing the guilt of the criminal.

    Allah says:

    > “Say: O My servants who have transgressed against themselves, do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins.”

    The true God does not need to die in order to forgive.
    He does not need blood in order to show mercy.
    He does not wrong the innocent in order to save the guilty.

    He forgives because He is the Forgiving.
    He shows mercy because He is the Merciful.
    And He judges because He is the Just.​

    تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
    اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين
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