SIGH, First of all, the verse reads like this: "They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve." You saying "a third" is not honest exegesis, and it is an obvious cover up for what I consider a discrepancy. You may say it doesn't have anything to do with the topic, but your are obviously using that as a red herring. As for what the Catholic Church did with Mary, this is not BIBLICAL Christianity. So Allah's beef is with the Catholics and not true Biblical Christianity OR CHRISTIANS. He was reacting to Catholicism is what you are telling me whether your realize it or not.
That doesn't cut it for me. I am not a Catholic worshipper of Mary or any saints nor is it Biblical to do such a thing. It idolatry and pagan. But get this, not even the Catholics considered Allah the third person of the trinity or a third of the trinity. NO Christians be they Catholic or not ever considered that God comes in thirds either. So even if your dishonest exegesis of the Quran were true, and you know it is not, it is a misconception. This is enough of a discrepancy for me to see that the only way Islam can support itself is to tear down Christianity; otherwise, it doesn't stand on its own. IMHO, I see as tantamount to a man that is drowning, and in an attempt to save himself tries to drown the person trying to save him. Please spare me your rhetoric, and be honest for a change. Finally, I never said Allah said Jesus and Mary were part of the trinity; I said it is the only thing that scholars can logically infer from what Allah asked Jesus and by what He said not to do in regards to "say not three"

Peace

You are being dishonest the verse reads a third no the third , ثالث ثلاثة not ثالث الثلاثة in arabic ال is the so you are really talking about things which you have no idea about so stop making a fool of yourself any 5 year old arabic speakin child would laugh on such a claim. You are being dishonest liar .You need to do some research in arabic before accusing others of what you are.

One statement by you is absurd and needs some addressing :

This statement by you shows that God should have addressed only one sect of christianity rather all , This is an absurred claim , catholics existed back then and still do . To muslims we do not have something called true christians or not true , God speaks and addresses all christians in their claim. You saying would be like a christian considering some muslim sects to be true and others non true !!!!

As for biblical , well first of all there is no mention of trinity in the bible so best for you to not go in there . More importantly God is addressing the CLAIMS of christians whether in the bible or not (not meaning like trinity which does not exist in the bible but yet mentioned and addressed in the quran)

As for catholics : you really are oblivious if you think catholics do not believe in trinity just like how you are completely oblivious about arabic language , which makes you a dishonest liar. Father which is god (Allah in arabic) jesus son of god and the holy spirit John 20:17 Jesus said "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

1 Corinthians 8:6 "yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."

I see you as a man trapped in a well and every time he tries to reach the top he falls upon his butt being the sad desperate and lost person he is. So spare me your complete oblivious comments which does not actually give an actual answer

No answer to Mary being the mother of god nor to the passages I quoted from catholicism. Sad just simply a sad response


You did say that the quran alludes to mary being part of trinity so do not lie

peace

I would also like to add this piece of evidence too:

worshipped

https://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pi...corona_en.html

This is from brother نيو from his thread:

https://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/t199158....%E1%E1%E5%20)=

But this doesn't prove that Catholics considered her God or more importantly that the true spirit of Christianity worshipped Mary. True Christians know that the worship of Mary is wrong and idolatry. Even the Bible tells us it is wrong.
So, Allah is reacting to Catholicism which doesn't follow true Biblical Christianity. It is like a new religion coming down on Muslims that worship the black stone of the Kaaba this is not what all Muslims do, but some kiss the stone and bow to it much like Catholics do to stone statues of Mary. The point is Catholics to us are what the Quranist or Shia are to the Sunni Muslims. Quranist believe Sunni Muslims commit shirk in the second part of the shahada. I can see their point, but I believe they are misguided as well accepting the Quran and Islam's prophet as God's message and messenger.
peace

Your logic is the same which a feresy jew would say that Jesus only should address them not the other sects of the jews , to a christian there is no such thing Jesus addresses all the israelites !!!

Same here God addresses all the claims , we do not belive what you claim is true so to us there is no difference

They worshipped her so I think even though they did not consider her a goddess , they sure treated her as so

I think the word worship speaks for itself

peace

This is true, but Catholics also worshipped and pray to different saints. The Quran only mentions Jesus, Mary and Allah, there is no mention of saints or the Holy Spirit; therefore, a child can logically infer Allah's understanding of the three were son, mother and father. it doesn't take a Biblical or Quranic scholar to see this.

No, Christians or Catholic worships or believes in such a trinity as implied by Allah. In my opinion, Islam's prophet didn't research Christian belief deep enough in the 7th century and now Muslims have to dream up excuses for a clear and obvious discrepancy to everyone but them, uhm, that makes me wonder.

In fact, the information that the third person of the trinity was and is the Holy Spirit and not Allah to Christians was accessible to your prophet in the 7th century. Perhaps what confused him was the belief that the Holy Spirit was Gabriel instead of God. Still Muslims today believe that Gabriel is the Holy Spirit, but he is only an angle messenger, and not the Holy Spirit who is God.
peace

Again your logic is twisted

The quran addresses claims about jesus and his family and his status as a prophet from a virgin mother , so the worship of other saints as you said

More importantly they did not worship saints they did not elevate their status to such the status which they elevated Mary (mother of God)!!!!

So your comparison does not work

As for trinity I have alrady shoed you the interpritations plus the verse in the quran never mentioned that Mary was part of the trinity , as I have described if Mary was then she would have been mentioned in the verse since God and Jesus were mentioned , it is simple

The rest of your claims are just laughable !!!!