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Can man limited what God can do? You said in another post God can do what He wants. Did you change your mind? I believe God can have His eternal and divine word become man. I hope this answers your question. I also believe that Jesus on His return will judge everyone who accuses those of shirk for believing that Jesus is He. As Jesus said, and He will ask people on the last day: "Were you not told by my witnesses that I am He, and did I not say you will die in your sin unless you believe I am He? Why then didn't you believe what I said? People will have to answer that question!
Peace be unto you for it is time for peace.
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You shy away from the logical answers, to hypotheses phantom
God is able to erase sin, without a representative steel and redemption
تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين
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God cannot simply erase sin unless He acts against His divine nature of being just.المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركةYou shy away from the logical answers, to hypotheses phantom
God is able to erase sin, without a representative steel and redemption
You have simplified the concept of sin to an extent you don't see that God sets the bar on this.. It's not so much how our sin affects us but what affect does our sin have on a Holy God. If you feel that your good deeds mean anything when it comes to payment for sin then.. I don't know where that leaves you. Except on dodgy ground spiritually. Does God need your good deeds?
Peace
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In Islam, God is merciful. Forgiving. Great
So: God is not human beings and do not resemble humans, and can not be embodied in the form of humans
Not because he can not, but is greater than that
تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين
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God is Spirit and must be worshipped in spirit and in truth. Yes, God is merciful, forgiving and Great, but we have to meet Him on his terms to receive His mercy and forgiveness. Who told you what God can or cannot do in regards to being embodied in man. How do you know? Are you God?المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركةIn Islam, God is merciful. Forgiving. Great
So: God is not human beings and do not resemble humans, and can not be embodied in the form of humans
Not because he can not, but is greater than that
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At the risk of repeating myself we also believe as Christians God is merciful, forgiving and great.. All of this and more.. A thousand fold more than we can imagine. Most importantly we see God as love, and it's through that divine and agape love God shows what we mean to Him. YHWH is not a distant and impersonal God which was proved to us through the incarnation of His Word.. Jesus.. We know we are loved..and loved greatly and prized above all creation. It's in knowing this we return that love in every way we can think of in spirit, worship and deed.المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركةIn Islam, God is merciful. Forgiving. Great
So: God is not human beings and do not resemble humans, and can not be embodied in the form of humans
Not because he can not, but is greater than that
Really... Who are you to put limitations on God? You cannot possibly hope to measure Gods greatness and on that basis alone have no right to say what God is or is not capable of.. Or even what would be "seemly and proper" behaviours attributed to God. God is God.. he is above all creation and the rules by which we live by. As such nothing is impossible with God.
Blessings.
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here is the answer my sister :Can God Become A Man
Numbers 23 : 19
God is not a man, that he should lie;

the supposed God is:God is Spirit and must be worshipped in spirit and in truth. Yes, God is merciful, forgiving and Great
Merciful ??? !!!

Ezekiel 9 :6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women
Forgiving ???!!!

Luke 19 : 27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me
Great ???!!!

Matthew 26 : 67
Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands,

use your mind !

أنقر(ي) فضلاً أدناه :

سُبحان الذي يـُطعـِمُ ولا يُطعَم ،
منّ علينا وهدانا ، و أعطانا و آوانا ،
وكلّ بلاء حسن أبلانا ،
الحمدُ لله حمداً حمداً ،
الحمدُ لله حمداً يعدلُ حمدَ الملائكة المُسبّحين ، و الأنبياء و المُرسلين ،
الحمدُ لله حمدًا كثيراً طيّبا مُطيّبا مُباركاً فيه ، كما يُحبّ ربّنا و يرضى ،
اللهمّ لكَ الحمدُ في أرضك ، ولك الحمدُ فوق سماواتك ،
لكَ الحمدُ حتّى ترضى ، ولكَ الحمدُ إذا رضيتَ ، ولكَ الحمدُ بعد الرضى ،
اللهمّ لك الحمدُ حمداً كثيراً يملأ السماوات العلى ، يملأ الأرض و مابينهما ،
تباركتَ ربّنا وتعالَيتَ .
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My mind tells me you are looking to find fault with God. Don't forget Allah said he sent down the torah that records all these verses. Your beef is not with Christians; it is with your god.المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة *اسلامي عزي* مشاهدة المشاركة
here is the answer my sister :
Numbers 23 : 19
God is not a man, that he should lie;

the supposed God is:
Merciful ??? !!!

Ezekiel 9 :6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women
Forgiving ???!!!

Luke 19 : 27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me
Great ???!!!

Matthew 26 : 67
Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands,

use your mind !
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here is the answer my sister :
Numbers 23 : 19
God is not a man, that he should lie;

no offence here but if you continue to use Bible verses whilst failing to understand the context ..or taking a few words you feel say what you want them to mean then you will get nowhere... You fail my friend!!!
19 “God is not a man, that He should lie,
Nor a son of man, that He should repent.
Has He said, and will He not do?
Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
This is correct God is not a man.. However it does not say God could not become a man if He so wished.. God IS not a man that he should lie.. Mankind lies.. God does not. God does not sin (obviously) so therefore God has no need to repent, Man breaks his promises and does not live up to all he says.. God never breakers His promises.. Mankind will say they will do something but often fail to live up to their words. If God says He will do something then He makes good on His word.
So from that point of view.. God is NOT a man.. But there is nothing in this verse that says God could not become a man.
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will do this." Isaiah 9:6-7
We can see from this verse Isaiah in predicting the birth of the Messiah.. Jesus.. Will be called Mighty God.. Everlasting Father..Isaiah received this revelation from God.
the supposed God is:
Merciful ??? !!!

Ezekiel 9 :6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women
Forgiving ???!!!
You need to see the context of this verse to understand Gods righteous wrath and how it is tempered by His divine mercy. You know of Gods judgement against Sodom I take it? So you can understand that there have been occasions where God has felt it necessary to pass harsh judgement upon sinners and idolaters. No different here, the angel was told to mark those who were saved and any that were so marked were spared. You have highlighted the "Little Children" as this I believe.. You feel shows a great cruelty. God of course would see things differently from you and could maybe know that these children would be destined for a life of the same sin and idolatry if they did not end up sacrificed to some idol!!! then possibly God thought it was a greater act of mercy to bring them to Him. It's really not our place to question the demands of God now is it. Do you question Allah when he tells muslims to smite the necks of disbelievers .. To seek them out wherever they are...or other such severe judgements?
Luke 19 : 27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me
Great ???!!!
this is a parable taught by Jesus to make the point of what we are to expect in the future.. If you are interested you can read the parable and it's meaning here...

I will use mine if you will use yours.. :) try looking at things objectively and not twisting things to say what you want them to say.
Matthew 26 : 67
Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands,

use your mind !
Peace to you
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Pandora, he knows he is twisting the Scriptures that came before to match what he wants to believe to be true, and he accuses Christians of twisting and changing Scriptures?
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In the name of Allah the most gracious and merciful the master of the Judgment Day
Pandora , Burninglight welcome back
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Jesus is he the only Messiah mentioned in the bible ????We can see from this verse Isaiah in predicting the birth of the Messiah.. Jesus

I totally agree with you ,Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children
Men and women who breaks the lord ' Commandments deserve the God ' s punishment because of idolatry .
what is the crime committed by the young children and for that they were slaughtered ????
You say :
How do you know that ????God of course would see things differently from you and could maybe know that these children would be destined for a life of the same sin and idolatry if they did not end up sacrificed to some idol!!!
Is there any text from the Bible supporting what you say ???
please don't put the verses out of their true context !Do you question Allah when he tells muslims to smite the necks of disbelieversTo seek them out wherever they are..
the disbelievers deserve this punishment !
Allah says :
And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
the holy Quran 2: 191
[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.
That is because they opposed Allah and His Messenger. And whoever opposes Allah and His Messenger - indeed, Allah is severe in penalty.
the holy Quran 8 : 12 / 13
I'm not changing any things !Pandora, he knows he is twisting the Scriptures that came before to match what he wants to believe to be true, and he accuses Christians of twisting and changing Scriptures?
The Scriptures were already manipulated !
here is the proof !

for example :
The masoretic text ( job 30 :29)speaks about two creatures :
1-the Ostrich
2-the Dragon
אָח הָיִיתִי לְתַנִּים וְרֵעַ לִבְנוֹת יַעֲנָה
the KJV speaks about dragons and owls :
I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls.
peace to you .

أنقر(ي) فضلاً أدناه :

سُبحان الذي يـُطعـِمُ ولا يُطعَم ،
منّ علينا وهدانا ، و أعطانا و آوانا ،
وكلّ بلاء حسن أبلانا ،
الحمدُ لله حمداً حمداً ،
الحمدُ لله حمداً يعدلُ حمدَ الملائكة المُسبّحين ، و الأنبياء و المُرسلين ،
الحمدُ لله حمدًا كثيراً طيّبا مُطيّبا مُباركاً فيه ، كما يُحبّ ربّنا و يرضى ،
اللهمّ لكَ الحمدُ في أرضك ، ولك الحمدُ فوق سماواتك ،
لكَ الحمدُ حتّى ترضى ، ولكَ الحمدُ إذا رضيتَ ، ولكَ الحمدُ بعد الرضى ،
اللهمّ لك الحمدُ حمداً كثيراً يملأ السماوات العلى ، يملأ الأرض و مابينهما ،
تباركتَ ربّنا وتعالَيتَ .
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التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة *اسلامي عزي*; الساعة 01-07-2014, 22:12.

أنقر(ي) فضلاً أدناه :

سُبحان الذي يـُطعـِمُ ولا يُطعَم ،
منّ علينا وهدانا ، و أعطانا و آوانا ،
وكلّ بلاء حسن أبلانا ،
الحمدُ لله حمداً حمداً ،
الحمدُ لله حمداً يعدلُ حمدَ الملائكة المُسبّحين ، و الأنبياء و المُرسلين ،
الحمدُ لله حمدًا كثيراً طيّبا مُطيّبا مُباركاً فيه ، كما يُحبّ ربّنا و يرضى ،
اللهمّ لكَ الحمدُ في أرضك ، ولك الحمدُ فوق سماواتك ،
لكَ الحمدُ حتّى ترضى ، ولكَ الحمدُ إذا رضيتَ ، ولكَ الحمدُ بعد الرضى ،
اللهمّ لك الحمدُ حمداً كثيراً يملأ السماوات العلى ، يملأ الأرض و مابينهما ،
تباركتَ ربّنا وتعالَيتَ .
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Thank you for the welcome back...but I haven't been away.. :)المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة *اسلامي عزي* مشاهدة المشاركةIn the name of Allah the most gracious and merciful the master of the Judgment Day
Pandora , Burninglight welcome back
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Of course not.. Do you know what title Messiah stands for? The title "messiah" is a general term that has been given to many people in Biblical times. I am slightly amused that you think I ... as a Christian would not be aware of that fact. The term "messiah" simply means "anointed", or "one set aside for a specific task or calling by God". David, Saul and Moses would all be considered as a "messiah" in their day. Even some of the prophets could be called this as well.Jesus is he the only Messiah mentioned in the bible ????
However, we also understand that Judaism over the millennia has been looking for "the messiah" not just "a messiah". Not just one who will come and change a single generation or two, but one who will come and change the direction of the entire world for all times. Jesus is that messiah the Jewish people have been waiting for.. Many of them chose not to recognise that fact. Jesus refers to himself as this messiah in John 4:25. ~~That woman said to him, "I know that the Messiah is coming, and when he comes, he will teach us everything. 26. Jesus said to her, I am the one speaking with you. 27. And while he spoke, his disciples came and were amazed that he spoke with a woman ~~
I know that because I have absolute faith in Gods Holy judgement. I do not question the will of God, He is divine, He is Holy and as our creator we function according to His will. I don't need a written explanation of the whys and wherefores... It's not my place to question the wisdom of God.I totally agree with you ,
Men and women who breaks the lord ' Commandments deserve the God ' s punishment because of idolatry .
what is the crime committed by the young children and for that they were slaughtered ????
You say :
How do you know that ????
Is there any text from the Bible supporting what you say ???
you are having a joke with me here I think???? Are you seriously chastising me for quoting verses from the Quran out of context???? When you have done the very same with Bible verses in every post you have used them.!!!!!!! Do you not see the hypocrisy here?please don't put the verses out of their true context !
the disbelievers deserve this punishment !
Allah says :
And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
the holy Quran 2: 191
[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.
That is because they opposed Allah and His Messenger. And whoever opposes Allah and His Messenger - indeed, Allah is severe in penalty.
the holy Quran 8 : 12 / 13[/QUOTE]
*** sigh*** ... And your point is?I'm not changing any things !
The Scriptures were already manipulated !
here is the proof !

for example :
The masoretic text ( job 30 :29)speaks about two creatures :
1-the Ostrich
2-the Dragon
the KJV speaks about dragons and owls :
I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls.
peace to you .
I tell you.. If there were a brick wall to hand I would be likely to be found banging my head against it in frustration at your replies!!! Still.. On the bright side.. Your posts do give cause to smile on occasion and that's a good thing.. :) :)
peace to you.
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