Since Christians don't believe Allah is their god, who are Muslims referring to when they say "Those who associated to Allah?" I notice that some of my posts are not showing up on the thread. Why?
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لا يوجد إعلان حتى الآن.
Who makes associations to Allah?
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I don't understand
تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين
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I am asking you a question. Who associates partners to Allah the god of Islam?المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركةI don't understand
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Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,Allah , the Eternal Refuge.He neither begets nor is born,Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين
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I agree with this being what Muslims believe, but you didn't answer my question or the question of the title of this thread. Jesus is the son of God, but He was not begotten or sired by God. I also agree that there is One God. He is the God of Abraham , [who is] One, God, He is the Eternal Refuge, the Resurrection and the life, the first and the last, the mighty God, Prince of Peace, Wonderful Counselor, the Rock of my Salvation, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Rose of Sharon, and the The Word of God. And Satan is a liar and the father of lies who stands rebuked and disabled in the name of Jesus.المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركة: 007:
Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,Allah , the Eternal Refuge.He neither begets nor is born,Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
Peace
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[And mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah ].
تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين
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This still doesn't tell us who associates partners to Allah. This verse tells us that Jesus is a word from Allah and the Bible and Quran agree that Jesus is the Word of God. He is the word "Be" in Islam and He is the "I am" in the Bible. I am is a form of Be.المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركة: 007:
[And mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah ].
Jesus is the word God used to speak all things into existence. Did you ever think about that? It is written; "All things were made by Him for Him and through Him." It is therefore impossible for God's word not to be eternal and uncreated. Pray to the God of Abraham (not Islam) to show you. Jesus will show you personally He is before Abraham. Jesus said, "Before Abraham was I am" Jesus is saying, I am that I am! I wish to God you knew Him truly and sincerely I mean it.
Peace unto you
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Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.
تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين
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In the beginning was the word; the word was with God, and the word was God. Jn. 1:1المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركة
Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.
God's word is eternal and uncreated, but Jesus' human body was created by the word of God who is Jesus the word of God incarnate. This is why Jesus said, "You believe in God believe also in me... Before Abraham was I am... if you have seen me you have seen the father... the father and I are one" There is only one God with no partners or associates.
Peace
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Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, "Be," and it is
So Adam is also the word of God incarnate?
Everything in this world is the Word of God incarnate
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اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين
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Adam is clay incarnate by God's word. He is not the word of God, and the mountains, trees, oceans and deserts of the world are not incarnated at all. Jesus is the word "Be." What do you think Jesus meant when He said, "Before Abraham was I am?" Did you know that "Be" is a form of I am?المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركةOriginator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, "Be," and it is
So Adam is also the word of God incarnate?
Everything in this world is the Word of God incarnate
All things were made through Him (Jesus), and without Him nothing was made that was made. Jn. 1:3. The Scripture explicitly states that all things were made by Him for Him and through Him. It is very clear in many places in the Bible you do dishonor by claiming it to be corrupted. Please rethink your approach to posting as I do mine as well. Thank you
Blessings, Peace and truth
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Adam, a clay after God said: Be
Christ is the flesh and blood after God said: Be
Anything in the world is orders of God and His Word
You can never explain the reason embody the idea of something moral
Incidentally / why God chose to send a son not a daughter, considering the presence ofsaints in Christian
تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين
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المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركةAdam, a clay after God said: Be
Christ is the flesh and blood after God said: Be
Anything in the world is orders of God and His Word
You can never explain the reason embody the idea of something moral
Incidentally / why God chose to send a son not a daughter, considering the presence ofsaints in ChristianSister dear Heart.. What do you mean by this? Please explain..Incidentally / why God chose to send a son not a daughter, considering the presence ofsaints in Christian
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She is saying that Jesus is not eternal and uncreated. She is saying that Allah said be and Jesus existed as a result of God saying be, but I am trying to tell her that Jesus is the word be that God used to created all things that God made flesh. Jesus preexisted as the word of God or the "be" in Islam.المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة pandora مشاهدة المشاركةSister dear Heart.. What do you mean by this? Please explain..
The people of the Book of true Biblical Christianity are the only ones who know Jesus Christ. I believe that is why the god of Islam told Islam's messenger to ask the people of the Book (Christians) about his prophet hood if he had any doubts. IMO, Allah wouldn't have told him that if he didn't have doubts about his prophet hood. This begs the question, if he doubted, why should Muslims be so sure? Moreover, if Allah told Islam's messenger to ask the people of the Book about his prophet hood, how much more should Muslims today ask us people of the Book (Bible)???
Blessings,
BL
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المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة Burninglight مشاهدة المشاركةShe is saying that Jesus is not eternal and uncreated. She is saying that Allah said be and Jesus existed as a result of God saying be, but I am trying to tell her that Jesus is the word be that God used to created all things that God made flesh. Jesus preexisted as the word of God or the "be" in Islam.
The people of the Book of true Biblical Christianity are the only ones who know Jesus Christ. I believe that is why the god of Islam told Islam's messenger to ask the people of the Book (Christians) about his prophet hood if he had any doubts. IMO, Allah wouldn't have told him that if he didn't have doubts about his prophet hood. This begs the question, if he doubted, why should Muslims be so sure? Moreover, if Allah told Islam's messenger to ask the people of the Book about his prophet hood, how much more should Muslims today ask us people of the Book (Bible)???
Blessings,
BL
There is no doubt you are convinced this
Important: do not answer my questions?
Everything that exists in the universe is God's word and ordered permission Nothingproves that Jesus, the Word of God incarnate
2 - Why God chose the son of sin, the daughter did not choose? Are women less than menwhen the God of the Christians?
تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين
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