Unfortunately, the dialogue with you at an impasse

You are not obliged to tell me what you believe? Dialogue means to provide proof script,realistic, logical

What you are doing you and your friend is far from true dialogue

Admitted you beat your affection for your mind, and this is not enough to reply to you

Well, for sure it's sad that you feel you can no longer answer my queries or I yours. I'm really not sure what proof you would wish me to bring here.. Do you mean verses from the Bible? You bring enough for both.. I have tried time and time again to explain in simple terms where you misunderstand the verses you are posting.. But you just aren't interested in knowing or accepting you do not understand something. There is no proof that would ever satisfy you and your fellows here because you are not interested in proof.. You have already decided you are right, you have committed yourself to this stance and it is not possible for you to accept any proof no matter how convincing it may be.. Because you are not allowed to think outside the box.

I offered in my previous post if you wish to choose a verses or account of a particular prophet that specifically causes you a problem of understanding.. We could discuss it further. No matter.

peace and blessings to you from me..

You give me the impression that the only thing you consider to be true dialogue are with those that agree that Islam is the true religion and Christianity is false. If that is the case, what you are doing is not true dialogue. Moreover, I can honestly say Pandora's view of Christianity is sound, and you can learn a lot of what is true about Christianity from her my sister of humanity. I will start a thread called "true dialogue."

Peace

That we were against the dialogue, Christians were not allowed to write to the forumIslamist
You know the Arabic language, you can see the debates in Arabic
The problem you and Pandora, you are talking about Christianity passion does not mind
Islam is a religion of the mind. This will not convince us fake stories to tell you about Christianity

I accept it's fair enough that it is an Islamist forum, however this section (English section) I thought was for interfaith dialogue. As I remember this was the reason I was invited here as a guest.. At least I thought that was the reason.. And I was told that was so. I expect many of the members do not speak English and so would it matter what interfaith dialogue was posted here as they would not read it anyway?. So is this section then just for Dawah purposes?

Now... Dear heart.. I wish I knew your name or a name I could address you in English.. As calling you dear or dear heart sometimes comes across as patronising and that's not my wish, and I hope you do not think I patronise you by this term. Anyway.. I take exception to your objection to us talking with passion about Christianity!! I am passionate about it.. My Absolute faith in my God and my Saviour Jesus are important before everything else in my life. How can I not be passionate about this???? I am not an automaton.. And nothing ..BUT NOTHING.. I have ever posted here is a "fake story" about Christianity. I have been here long enough surely for you to see I am not a fake person, I am honest in my dealings, as I am honest with myself. It's not my task here to convince you or anyone of anything.. I am not that arrogant to think I have that kind of power at my finger tips.. lol.. If I did I would not be a humble Librarian .. :)

Islam is a religion of the mind.... Well, then I can see it is not for me.. My religion is for my mind and body, But more importantly it's for my soul and my spirit. I can see now.. You are held back by fear.. Fear of the unknown... Fear of Allah.. Should you get it wrong.. Fear of knowledge of other faiths.. In case it raises questions you do not like in your logical mind. Fear of non muslims because you don't understand us..

Please don't be afraid. I am not a monster to tempt you away from what you hold as your truth.. I only want to try and make you understand that most of your beliefs about Christians and Christianity are false. I simply wish to dispel misconceptions ..

I am NOT inviting you to Christianity.... Jesus invites.. There is no compulsion attached., I am opening a door to show you our way is not so different to yours.. That we all wish to be forgiven our sins and enter Heaven/Paradise and be saved. I know I am saved in Christ you don't have that.

Peace to you my dear sister in humanity. May God bless and keep you.

Sorry for for the wordy post.. Also I was going to post a flower on the end.. But I have lost the emoticons again.. :)

I can agree with you that Islam is a religion of the mind. Christianity is not. It doesn't deal with the mind as much as the heart. If the Bible is full of fake stories of passion, why did Islam borrow the virgin birth story from it or use the Song of Solomon to support prophecy about Muhammad when Muslims consider that a book of pornography? I wish you could see through my eyes for one minute on each point made.

peace to you

We believe that part of the Bible typeface, it porn stories such as Song of Solomon

We believe that the Bible Word of God



And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.

So: the source of the Koran. Torah. The Bible is God

For this, there are some texts in the Qur'an agree with the Bible

But if the Prophet Muhammad (illiterate) borrowed from the Bible (non-Arab) Why:

There is a difference in the texts

Why the Prophet Muhammad admonished the Jews and the Christians?

I do not see, but the mind

Porn is illicit sex outside of marriage for the purpose of making money and feeding the spirit of lust which is to be carnal minded which is also death. Read how Christianity is against the such in Paul's letters. Songs of Solomon describes lawful sex between a married man and his wife. God created sex. If you are ashamed of it, you are ashamed of God. Why do Muslim try to use Song of Solomon to confirm Muhammad's prophet hood?

You'll get no argument from me here.
Because he borrowed what he wanted and not all of it. The virgin birth of Jesus is borrowed from the NT Bible, but he didn't borrow the reason for it from the gospel Allah said he sent down. That is the gospel Allah spoke of. Allah tells Muhammad to check with us people of the Book about his prophet hood and all, does it not?

In what way? As I mentioned, it was Allah that told Muhammad to check with us people of the book about his prophet hood so how could Muhammad admonished the Christians? Think and pray about it for a little while before you respond please.

Peace be unto you.

Warning for the last time, do not write the name of Muhammad only, but the Prophet Muhammad

Do not force us to evict you

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By the way / you alone can destroy the Christian faith

In your opinion:

Priests distorted the Bible

Apostles and prophets stick

Bible texts pornographic

Christian faith does not depend on the mind

For this I do not see the usefulness of the dialogue with you, because you recognize thatChristianity is impossible to be a meaningful message

However attacking Islam


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Have you seen he who has taken as his god his [own] desire, and Allah has sent him astray due to knowledge and has set a seal upon his hearing and his heart and put over his vision a veil? So who will guide him after Allah ? Then will you not be reminded?

I never say prophet Jesus and I don't try and force you to say it either. I don't try to force you not to call Jesus son of his mother Mary which I consider disrespectful. Why are you trying to force me to say what I don't believe with threats?

Are you a moderator? I don't refer to any prophets in the Bible as prophet Jonah or prophet Jeremiah or prophet Moses. I just call them Abraham, Moses, and Jeremiah. Why are you trying to put a trip on me? What is your agenda here? Is it to get me evicted? You cannot force someone to do what they want to do! Be honest please.

There is a seal on me for redemption. I have been sealed by the blood of Christ Jesus. I really don't appreciated being threaten by you. You are interpreting my not saying "prophet Muhammad" as an attack against Islam. You are wrong about that and to force someone to say what they don't believe especial when they don't say the word prophet to describe their own prophets in the Bible.

If you are not a moderator, one needs to confront this issue. Those that take their [own] desire for god going astray and God placing a seal upon their hearing and their heart and put over their vision a veil is borrowed from the Bible. It was written before the birth of Islam: "Those who refuse the love of truth, God sends them a strong delusion that they may believe a lie" So if you are implying that borrowed paraphrased verse is for me, Christianity claims it first, but not for Christians.

Peace be unto you

What do you mean by attacking Islam? Do you consider saying our Holy Bible is corrupted an attack on Christianity? If you can say that about our Holy Bible why can't we same the same about that which comes against our Holy Bible? If WE CANNOT, Isn't that considered a double standard? So just how are attacks from the only two Christians on the forum happening against Islam? I tried starting a thread where nothing negative is said about either religion. Now, I am getting warnings that I should say "prophet Muhammad" I thought their was no compulsion in religion? Why then are you trying to compel me to refer to Islam's messenger as a prophet of God? Is this a double standard? Why the inconsistency? Please explain. Thank you. We don't have an overly respect for prophets, but we do for the word of God they share or that any person shares. We believe to overly respect prophets as better human beings is man worship, and we don't want to sin against our Lord and God

Peace be unto you.

I never said, that Christianity is impossible to be a meaningful message. You said I said that which is twisting the truth. If you are going to tell me what my opinion is and distort the meaning of what I said, and delay posting my comments, I don't see the usefulness of dialogue with you either. Maybe someone else should address my posts so we can have mutual respect and patience with one another. that is all I want. I am not wanting to offend anyone, some times it is not avoidable if you know what I mean.


Peace

Not my problem. That you did not read the Forum Rules before registering

Do not write the name of Muhammad abstract, is not just someone

You can tell the Messenger of Islam

Do not you think that Muhammad is the Messenger of Islam?

I am director of the forum, and this is our laws. You must be respected

As for the name of Jesus son of Mary, Mrs Mary honor, is not dignified women in Christianity

Do you become a mother insult?

You do not need to force us to respect the Christ (peace be upon him). Our faith compels us to it

On the other hand should show a little respect

You write enough just to write only

I will look at the forum rules more closely. I don't want to break the rules of the forum. If I have, I apologize and I will comply.

I can agree the term Prophet of Islam would be fair for us to use.

I think muslims honour Mary in a similar way that Catholics do. I find it odd that Mary should be honoured so in the Quran, even to having a Sura named for her. Why is this honour for Mary above the mothers of other Prophets? What makes Mary special above other mothers in Islam?

Blessings