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المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة *اسلامي عزي*
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in the Bible God does what ever is necessary. He is not a wishy washy God but a strong and all powerful God.. For which anything is possible. As we believe in His mercy, Love and divine justice we do not question His judgement.
***"It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm the oath which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. (Deuteronomy 9:5)***
In some instances, God ordered the killing of entire populations...which presumably included the killing of babies and children. The Bible teaches that all people are sinners, including babies... Which is not to say they are born with sin already but a sin nature.. As we all are... Which makes everyone worthy of judgment. However.. the Bible also teaches that children are incapable of making moral choices, so that they are automatically rewarded with heaven. So... A kindness in one way if they had grown up corrupted by the adults around them ... opposed to God, they would have gone to hell. As God is omniscient then it would have been clear knowledge and just. The judgement of Sodom comes to mind.
put the text from the OT .please !
***The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth. Psalm 58:3 ***
***"and when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughters to their sons, nor shall you take their daughters for your sons. For they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods; then the anger of the LORD will be kindled against you and He will quickly destroy you." Deuteronomy 7:4***
***Then the sons of Israel again did evil in the sight of the LORD, served the Baals and the Ashtaroth, the gods of Aram, the gods of Sidon, the gods of Moab, the gods of the sons of Ammon, and the gods of the Philistines; thus they forsook the LORD and did not serve Him. Judges 10:6***
***The men of Babylon made Succoth-benoth, the men of Cuth made Nergal, the men of Hamath made Ashima, and the Avvites made Nibhaz and Tartak; and the Sepharvites burned their children in the fire to Adrammelech and Anammelech the gods of Sepharvaim. 2 Kings 17:30-31***
Is God right to be angered by godless behaviour and sin?? Where is the problem with God dealing with sin according to His divine knowledge and justice? Who are you to say God is not acting with mercy in ordering the deaths of children? You know all there is to God now????
Allah order Muslims to fight and kill only the pagans and the polytheists warriors .
where is the problem ????
where is the problem ????
***I would caution you not to judge God, since it is said, "Therefore you are without excuse, every man of you who passes judgment, for in that you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things." Romans 2:1***
the answer is NO .
Allah instructs you concerning your children: for the male, what is equal to the share of two females.
the holy Qura'n 4 : 11
who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones !
deut 21 : 17
But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.
Allah instructs you concerning your children: for the male, what is equal to the share of two females.
the holy Qura'n 4 : 11
who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones !
deut 21 : 17
But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.
The Right of the Firstborn
***15 If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the wife he does not love, 16 when he wills his property to his sons, he must not give the rights of the firstborn to the son of the wife he loves in preference to his actual firstborn, the son of the wife he does not love. 17 He must acknowledge the son of his unloved wife as the firstborn by giving him a double share of all he has. That son is the first sign of his father's strength. The right of the firstborn belongs to him. Deuteronomy 21:15-17 ***
here is the position of the women in Christianity .
she is like a merchandise !
Mat 18 : 25
But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
Exodus 21 : 7
And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
PEACE ....
she is like a merchandise !
Mat 18 : 25
But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
Exodus 21 : 7
And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
PEACE ....
***The Parable of the Unmerciful Servant
21 Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?”
22 Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.
23 “Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24 As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold was brought to him. 25 Since he was not able to pay, the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold to repay the debt.
26 “At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ 27 The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.
28 “But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins. He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.
29 “His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’
30 “But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. 31 When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.
32 “Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33 Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ 34 In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.
35 “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”***
This is not a judgement against women.. Or women being treated as merchandise. However, as you forever do.. Mine quoting snippets of scripture out of context. Are you trying to convince me or yourself by this method? It's not working for me.
Exodus 21:7-11
***7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.***
....Not sure why you're asking Christians when this is ancient Judaic law that is no longer in force. Anyway... At that time it wasn't uncommon for poor families to give their children up to slavery. Although Slavery wasn't as bad as we think of it today.. It was more like indenture or servitude. Instead of families letting their children starve or die from sickness, they would send them to be maids or farmers under a Master so that they could receive food, water, shelter, clothing, income, etc.. These "slaves" were treated more like servants or workers contract rather than our definition of slaves.
This passage is discussing the treament of female "servants" in specific. Women were highly protected under the Jewish law due to the fact that they were highly vulnerable in society. This is why we see so many extra laws of protection revolving around women. If a father gave up his daughter, than the "Master"would have to take on the duties of a father. He was not allowed to sell her to foreigners ...as that could endanger her life... If he was unpleased with her abilities to work, she was simply set free from the contract. He also wasn't able to just get rid of her when her time working was up. The men could simply be let free, because they could find other work easy enough. It was not so easy for women to find work so the "Master" was not allowed to just let her leave, and end up in a life of poverty. Sometimes they would arrange marriages for these women.. Which meant they were guaranteed a level of security and care.
Once again context is important... And understanding who the law was written for in the first place.. Which wasn't Christians.
peace to you.
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