Islam honored women, and took it out from the oppression of Christianity distorted

Do you know this picture?

What is that picture and what do you mean Islam took oppression out of Christianity?

A good attempt to escape from the Answer

Image summarize the status of women Christianity

This picture tells you nothing at all about Christianity ... It's a sad picture of a woman in chains.. A sad position many women of any faith or no faith may have found themselves at some time. A woman in chains today could be a Muslim woman in a Muslim country unfortunately for them. You should be asking who put on the chains? Why? And on who's authority? Certainly not Gods.. You are constantly attempting to put the low morals and opinions of some men (a minority) who judge women in society and pass it off as a religious requirement!!! You won't get anywhere with this kind of surmise..

The women with a chain around her two wrists is a saint .
Her name is st.Thérèse







https://agape.forumactif.com/t2085p60...ur-nos-malades


In this way the Christianity honor the saints and women ???

Many Christians suffered for their faith.. Christians still suffer for our faith today. Jesus told His followers, "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven"Almost all the Disciples suffered persecution and met their deaths in the name of Jesus and by spreading the Gospel. The persecution came from many corners not always Christian. So if she was indeed considered a Saint.. (I'll take your word for that.) she will have suffered for her faith in Jesus and will receive her reward in Heaven. So alls good.

Women that love and trust Jesus as their Savior are very wise. They are like the five wise virgins that took oil in their lamp waiting for the bride groom; the ones that don't trust Jesus as their Savior are like the foolish virgins who took no oil with their lamps. When the cry was made that the bride groom had come, the foolish said to the wise gives us your oil. The wise said not so; otherwise, there will not be enough for us and you, but go and buy for yourself. When they left, the wise virgin entered with the bride groom and the door was shut. When the other virgins returned, they said open to us. The bride groom said, "I never knew you depart..."

The man who trust Jesus as their Savior is like the wise man who built his house on a rock. When the wind and rains came with ***** flooding the house stood firm for it was build on a rock, the man who doesn't trust Jesus as his Savior is like the foolish man who build his house on the sand. When the winds and rains came with flooding the house feel and great was its destruction for it wasn't founded on the rock. Jesus is the rock of my salvation. I stand firm and unmovable, because I can do all things through Christ that strengthens me.

The point of this post is to show that in Christ (Christianity) there is neither male or female!!!

believe me she is a real Christian 's saint .

who forced her to suffer for her faith (for jesus ) ????
the Muslims ?? no of course !
the saint Thérèse was born and died in France ( 1873- 1897) !

do you mean that men and women are equal in the Christianity ???
i' dont think so !
your holy scriptures order the woman to submit to her husband :

here is the the text !

Ephesians 5 :

22 Wives, submit your selves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.

As you say.


lol.... I can't believe you think this warrants a good answer.. Who pray brought the muslims as prospective persecutors in this instance.. Why you did? Why?? I can tell you she was not persecuted by Christians either.. Maybe people who may have thought of themselves as Christians.. But we know as Jesus never taught anyone than persecution was an OK practice..then true Christians would not be persecuting any Saint.. Woman or man. Bit like the muslims who commit terrorist acts in today's world killing innocent people for their cause.. I say their cause because I think you would probably agree that they do not represent Islam. That's the thing religions if they are from God do not advocate violence by its followers towards others.. But as religions attract all sorts of followers .. Some will be playing to their own agenda. It's not the fault of Christianity that people were persecuted for their faith.. But the fault of some who claimed to be Christians. If you can't grasp that.. Then you may as well give up now.

Men and women are equal before God in all things spiritual.. That's the only place it counts. Last time I looked Muslim men are considered to be head of the household.. Are they not expected to provide for their wife and family? I'm sure if you are honest you will know there are verses to be found in the Quran that state as much. The hadiths go even further in guidance on how best to chastise a wife.. Should she be disobedient towards her husband. Really.. It seems like the pot calling the kettle black here. And the phrase glass houses and the throwing of stones comes to mind.

This is correct. God has designed an order of authority. God is over Christ; Christ is over man and man is over his wife and children are under their parents. We must be under the authorities of the land and obey as unto the Lord. If those authorities ask us to go against God, we don't need to obey. Don't make more out of this than what it is. God has established this order. If you don't like it, take it up with him not me! You think you are arguing with me but you're not.

Because even a tree falls in the Amazon , Muslims are the first to be accused .

Really ???

The teachings of Jesus says the opposite :

Luke 19 :27

But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me

of course they do not represent Islam !
You have to differentiate between the pacifist Muslims and the head's cutters !


i advise you to read some history :

https://www.historyofwar.org/articles...irtyyears.html


you speak as if islam order the muslim to suspend his women on electricity poles !
the beating comes after advices with a minuscule miswak like this :




the beating must be without Physical damage .

the sacred scripture teaches you how to punish a women !
the God of mercy order you to crunch her under the horse 's hooves !

2 Kings 9 :

³³ “Throw her down!” Jehu said. So they threw her down, and some of her blood spattered the wall and the horses as they trampled her underfoot. ³⁴ Jehu went in and ate and drank. “Take care of that cursed woman,” he said, “and bury her, for she was a king’s daughter.” ³⁵ But when they went out to bury her, they found nothing except her skull, her feet and her hands. ³⁶ They went back and told Jehu, who said, “This is the word of the Lord that he spoke through his servant Elijah the Tishbite: On the plot of ground at Jezreel dogs will devour Jezebel’s flesh


if the men and women are equals in all spiritual things ; why it is strictly forbidden for a woman to run for the position of pope ??


peace with you .

You sound like a well balanced individual ... A chip on both shoulders.. (Joke) because such a comment can't be taken seriously.




Have you heard of parables? Do you understand them? Well... This is one. As is the usual way.. you take it it's meaning as literal, thereby not understanding the context or the lesson to be learnt. I could explain this parable to you but really I don't see the point. Unless you would like it explained in which case I will do so. Your call.

Well, personally I don't believe they do represent Islam .. That's the point I'm trying to make.. When people do bad things in the name of their religion it does not mean they are acting according to the tenets of their religion. This may be hard for you to grasp but this applies to people of every religion.. Head cutters.. Not a nice term.. Can you think of something less descriptive?

What is the point of this? It has nothing to do with Christianity.. But some evil people who claim to be Christians. Here again you seem to believe that no Muslim ever fought a war.. Or killed other muslims. I guess you don't watch the news much then.


No.. I don't speak such.. It is how you choose to interpret my words to your own agenda. Would it not be better to advise men to refrain from beating their wives at all?..particularly as the beating should not cause any physical damage. It would make more sense if men were just told "To love there wives as you love yourselves..." Given that women in Islam are valued so highly.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with the Bible teaching on how to punish a woman. If you even bothered to read what you so eagerly quote in context you would know that. Actually just google and read about Jezebel.. And why God ordained that her flesh be devoured by dogs.

Thats catholic teaching... There are many women who hold positions of authority in other denominations within the church. That in itself has nothing to do with being equal before God in the spiritual sense.
God, in no way views women as being inferior. God will reward men and women based on how they have served the Lord Jesus Christ while here on earth. There will be no marriage in heaven ... Jesus said...For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. Traditionally in most cultures on earth the man.. Being physically stronger, bears the responsibility as head of the family. Tradition is not ordained by God.. Maybe some men get carried away with their own self of importance and come to believe that are in some way superior. Strange that you don't recognise this fact in societies world wide.

Rest assured !
I'm not drunk !!
Perhaps you think i just finished the Eucharist's seance but i 'm not !!! (Joke)

Parables ????!!!!
I don't think so!
below a nice icon representing Jesus the God of mercy carrying a sword in order to kill The Prophet Balaam !
the main source is an arabic-orthodoxe web site :





https://st-takla.org/Full-Free-Coptic...2_B/B_207.html

Beheading become current in the news today.
Unfortunately islam is stigmatized by these scenes of horror .

I can't deny that !
There are numerous conflicts between Muslims !
Do you know why ???
Because they did not respond to the commands of the Lord in the holy Quran !

the Lord says :

(( And obey Allah and His Messenger, and do not dispute and [thus] lose courage and [then] your strength would depart ))

the holy Quran 8 : 47


Have you ever read this before????

(( And of His signs is that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquillity in them ; and He placed between you affection and mercy ))

the holy Quran 30 : 21


Don't worry !
I know very well in any context these words were told !

Are you sure ???
Have you ever read this before??

Proverbs 11 : 22

Like a gold ring in a pig’s snout is a beautiful woman who shows no discretion.

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peace with you .

Yes, he is sure and I am sure. This verse in proverbs is a figure of speech proverb for any people in any religion. My question to you is that Islam teaching men how to beat their wives so that abuse won't take place, but why doesn't Islam teach the men not to be their wives to avoid abuse?

Peace be unto you

lol... What's with mr angry face?



if you don't understand parables fair enough... And I can see you obviously don't. I said I would explain if you wished but you thought better.. And introduced some picture of some icon which you seem to have concluded is of "divine origin" .. If you are really putting it forward as evidence of ... ? I'm not sure what?? and not a depiction of man wishing to interpret something which could be allegorical, metaphorical or symbolic manner.

Yes.. it's unfortunate

I really think we have a light bulb moment here, and we've reached a point of agreement. It's NOT the religion... It's some of the FOLLOWERS.. Of the religion.. Because they have chosen to put their interpretation of the message over what the message actually says. This is not just Islam and not just muslims. Not sure you get that part.... ;)

Yes I have, rather incongruous that on one hand you affection and mercy.. Then rules about chastising ones wife... Beating, weather light and to do no harm.. Is still physical punishment.. As the men is the one told to do the chastising and the woman is the one on the receiving end I guess it's up to you how you choose to interpret it.. Or do you go with the affection and mercy.. Or chastisement.. As a man you have the choice.

I'm not unduly worried.. However I very much doubt you do know the context... Did you check out Jezebel?

Yes I have... Do you know what it means? Would you like me to tell you what you should learn from this proverb? As a side note it is not a judgement on the spiritual equality of women according to God.

Nature provides it own beauty to all of God's creation though we may not appreciate it in every case... Like in the pig, many would not see as beautiful..Adding a gold ring to the pigs snout doesn't change a thing it's still the same pig. The point of this proverb isn't pig beauty, but what makes a person beautiful or not beautiful. To try to be beautiful in terms of physical things never succeeds. Without the inner beauty of the soul and character, beauty is simply garnish. A beautiful women who lacks sense and moral discretion is not really attractive. If the beauty of the person doesn't reach inward the outward beauty becomes simply an object.


Real beauty is in the souls which shine so brightly through patience, humility, wisdom, kindness, respect and strength of character making one beautiful. This beauty can be found in what some may consider "ugly" as well as what some may consider beautiful... But who are we to judge. The natural beauty of the human body is a creation of God. He made women and men attractive to each other, and gave us the ability to see the inner beauty of a person. God's plan is for all humans to be eternally beautiful by taking on the divine character of God himself. He is goodness, tenderness, wisdom, righteousness, justice, and he is filled with loving kindness. He will give each of us such eternal beauty if we but seek it. Jesus is beautiful precisely because he became like his Father... He taught us that we could be as Him.

peace to you