There was no "birth" of Adam. Adam was created as fully man in Gods image by Gods will. Jesus was created by God THROUGH humanity.. That is born of a woman. It's not about which miracle was the greater.. As miracles go they are equal they are both from God.

The "miracle" is the reason why God decreed Jesus be born this way, when He could just have easily been created as fully man from dust or clay as Adam was.. The miracle being just as God knows our sinful nature He does not forsake us His creation.

Your word is never true

Adam was created without a father or mother, not like other human beings by mating andlabor

Christ and creation without a father and the rest of humans from birth or through labor

Surprised at how you say that God creates a god like him?

Dear: There are several miracles demonstrate the greatness of Almighty God, there can never pretend that all those miracles gods with God

Such as:

The emergence of Adam and Moses stick, which was inanimate and then became herspirit returned in the last inanimate

Is this also the God of the stick? Or the son of God?


You think Christians like:

The world of man-made automatic, you leave talk about the science of the manufacturer, and served made

why would you say this? I stand by my words as truth as I understand them to be. Just because you cannot see the miracle BEHIND the virgin birth, not the event itself... Because even muslims accept the birth of Jesus as a miracle. You just do not see the necessity. The fact that you do not understand or choose not to believe does not mean my words are untrue.

yes, we have already agreed that Adam had no mother or father like other humans.. And the Christ had no earthly father but was born of a woman like the rest of humanity. You seem to have at least grasped that.

then you say something so ridiculous like ~ God creates a god like him ~ which goes to show how little you understand the Christ Jesus and what He said about Himself. Jesus was never A god .. The Bible never says that Jesus was A god. There is only ONE God Jesus taught this and the Bible teaches this and Christians believe this fact... That God is One. I can see now what a waste of time it is to discuss such matter here because you can never think outside the box the Quran has placed you in, and you can never see or consider the point of view of others or even accept what others may tell you of their beliefs because your Islam has decided that we actually believe something different and you will never be able to see past that or take the word of a Christian that we do in fact worship the ONE GOD... WHICH IS THE SAME GOD OF ALL THE PROPHETS ...YHWH.

Sorry I do not see the point you are making here, so feel I cannot respond.

Peace.

The words were true, how do you explain the conversion of religions

You must be aware that you have not been able to convince me that your talk

The problem that you believe in something you can not convince others of it

In this case will remain open our opinions and should not never be critical of Muslim opinion in Jesus never

We Christ, we are more of you

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do you mean why do people convert to other religions? Why would they not? Christians may convert to Islam like muslims may convert to Christianity and the same goes for any religious belief. Some may even leave religion altogether and forsake God completely. None of that is important or will make any difference in the grand scheme of things. We live.. We die.. The only constant unchanging factor is God. The only time we will ever have certainty is at judgement until that time we tread the path we choose in the hope and belief it leads us back to God. As a Christian I am guided by the in dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

I am not bothered by that at all. It's not my aim to convince you of anything. I only seek to make you understand that you are wasting your time with refutes, because the refutes are weak and based on your misunderstanding... Not you personally..just Muslim refutes in general. You could have tried to convince me of your prophets credentials as the final prophet as you claim, but unfortunately you must make false claims about Mohammed being prophesied in previous scriptures, which when looked at show yet further misunderstanding or misinterpretation of scripture.

Again, I am not bothered by this as it does not impact upon my person if others believe as I do or not. The convincing of others in matters of faith are in the remit of God alone. What pure arrogance it would be to seek to change the mind set and turn a person from their belief. Imagine if you are wrong in your belief... You could be responsible for the eternal loss of a soul to God!!! God gave us through His supreme majesty and grace the freedom to choose our path to His divine love... And you would wish to turn a person from their chosen path.

My dear, I am growing to love your funny little ways.. :) but truly no offence to you but really... you do NOT know Jesus... If you did you would believe what He said about Himself.

Blessings to to you and may God continue to guide you.

I respect your point of view

Thanks for the advice, but we must understand that what we write prompt researcher on the right

Not a fanatic like you without understanding

I am not sure what you mean by "prompt researcher on the right" I am taking it that you feel you do research and this proves you to be right. In your mind you probably are, but what use in trying to convince yourself or other muslims of the truth of Islam? Where is the benefit? I stand by what I say.. As a Christian who is part of the living gospel that is Christ Jesus your refutes are weak and based on misunderstandings. You hold up "scholars" like Zakir Naik who many muslims do not hold in very high esteem... And you expect Christians to take such evidence seriously!!

Its not not that you should do better in your efforts of Dawah... But rather question why you bother at all, what is to be gained?

It it is sad that you feel you must end on a personal insult... But so be it. I am not fanatical about my faith, but have an abiding love for my God and my given saviour Christ Jesus. Do you hold your God and your prophet in any less regard and love as I do mine? Do you think you are fanatical about Islam?

I still wish you well.

God bless and care for you.

It seems you do not believe in interfaith dialogue

Dear You are pathetic

Forever with the insults.. It is not becoming of you.

If by interfaith dialogue you seek to destroy the beliefs of someone who believes different to yourself and persuade them to accept your view as truth.. Then for sure, I do see that as time wasting, counterproductive and kinda of unethical.

If you wish enter into dialogue as a means of learning of the faith of others then I see that as a good thing. Not to persuade or cajole but in order to better understand another's point of view of the same God we share. Because I believe better understanding leads to a peaceful coexistence .. Surely that is a good thing.

If you hold to the former then I see no point in any kind of dialogue with you.. As it will go nowhere.

Shame .. Because I have quite got to like you :) despite that you can be a bit of a meanie at times. :)

bless you.

Ask God to guide you to the right

I feel this is something we should all be doing each and every day. Never assume in our arrogance that we have all the answers.

God Bless. :)