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  • #46
    المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة Burninglight مشاهدة المشاركة
    I wasn't asking any questions, I simply said I don't believe Islam's prophet is a pedophile nor does anyone on this forum. Pedophiles are sex addicts who sexually prey on children all the time. He did NOT do this; therefore, he is not a pedophile; so, why the need for a thread to refute what no one is claiming to be true about Islam's prophet, and why are Muslims so sensitive about his child bride and sexual relationship with her?
    For this reason, I question the universality of your prophet, but that is as far as I'd take it. There is no offense meant

    Peace

    You can not accuse Islam of what is in your faith

    Adultery and lying and poor ethics is a symbol of the prophets in the Bible

    The Koran, is considered the prophets are infallible

    تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
    اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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    • #47
      المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركة
      You can not accuse Islam of what is in your faith

      Adultery and lying and poor ethics is a symbol of the prophets in the Bible

      The Koran, is considered the prophets are infallible
      I understand this is what you believe, but as we can see prophets are human and subject to the weaknesses we all have as humans. God just chose them to warn the people, but that warning equally goes for the prophets. They are not chosen because they are the best of creatures.

      How could your prophet be above his own revelation; for instance, he states that only 4 wives are aloud by Allah, but he had many more than four? This is not to say that plurality in marriage is a problem, but he went against his own revelation; moreover, the Quran states that he was found wandering and Allah had to set him on the correct path. Wandering means lost and in sin. The point is I see excess in religion to take your view of prophets.

      It is clear that the Bible wasn't corrupted; otherwise, the prophets and scribes would have written flattering portraits of themselves. Muslims, IMHO, have grave misconceptions of the role of prophets and put them on pedestals. It is written "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God... the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ" Ro. 3: 23 - 6:23 You know not what manner of spirit you have. You have a zeal I respect, but your zeal is not according to knowledge.

      Blessings

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      • #48
        Became a waste of time to restore the suspicions about Islam

        You can find answers to these malicious thoughts about Islam

        The problem you do not want to hear another word of frequency and unacceptable


        Would have been better for you to read well about Islam, and then compare it to Christianity

        تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
        اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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        • #49
          المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركة
          Became a waste of time to restore the suspicions about Islam

          You can find answers to these malicious thoughts about Islam

          The problem you do not want to hear another word of frequency and unacceptable


          Would have been better for you to read well about Islam, and then compare it to Christianity
          Dear heart, Islam brings a very different message to the Bible. I am a Christian woman who holds to the teachings of Jesus Christ who showed us God through His teachings and actions. Never a lie was found on His lips so I believe Jesus when he said .

          *~~~ I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me~~~ *
          You ask for one to give up a spiritual certainty for an uncertainty. I would need incontrovertible proof that this uncertainty I would have in Islam is better than what I have now. To date I have seen nothing in the way of proof. You concentrate efforts trying to destroy our faith in our scripture with ridiculous unsubstantiated claims of corruption, you insult The Lord Jesus and this is supposed to show me by example that Islam is in any way better than Christianity??

          You out can never prove the Bible is corrupted or the "originals"were in any way different to what we have today... Because no proof exists. Your prophet Mohammed did not believe the scriptures were corrupted and you know those suras about the Jews changing the Torah if read in truth .. Do not prove wide scale corruption of the written word of the Torah. You should look at history and see where the claims of corruption first came about.. It was centuries after the death of your Prophet Mohammed. So why do muslims today waste so much of their valuable time tearing down the Bible when your very own Prophet never did such a thing.

          Peace to you.

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          • #50
            المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة pandora مشاهدة المشاركة
            Dear heart, Islam brings a very different message to the Bible. I am a Christian woman who holds to the teachings of Jesus Christ who showed us God through His teachings and actions. Never a lie was found on His lips so I believe Jesus when he said .

            *~~~ I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me~~~ *
            You ask for one to give up a spiritual certainty for an uncertainty. I would need incontrovertible proof that this uncertainty I would have in Islam is better than what I have now. To date I have seen nothing in the way of proof. You concentrate efforts trying to destroy our faith in our scripture with ridiculous unsubstantiated claims of corruption, you insult The Lord Jesus and this is supposed to show me by example that Islam is in any way better than Christianity??

            You out can never prove the Bible is corrupted or the "originals"were in any way different to what we have today... Because no proof exists. Your prophet Mohammed did not believe the scriptures were corrupted and you know those suras about the Jews changing the Torah if read in truth .. Do not prove wide scale corruption of the written word of the Torah. You should look at history and see where the claims of corruption first came about.. It was centuries after the death of your Prophet Mohammed. So why do muslims today waste so much of their valuable time tearing down the Bible when your very own Prophet never did such a thing.

            Peace to you.
            I have brought up these same points and questions, and I get no answers except they tell me to read the Quran well. I am being accuse of slandering Islam or of being suspicions with malicious thoughts, but they don't tell me what I am saying that is not true, malicious or suspicious especially in the last post on this thread. I can conclude that most of my statements, if not all, cannot be gainsaid. They make claims that cannot be proved about wholesale corruption of the Bible expecting us to accept it blindly and when I bring up things that are common knowledge about Islam, I am told I have malicious thoughts. If you say suspicious I would agree, but I don't understand why I am slandering or being guilty of malicious thoughts stating what I did on the last post before this.

            Blessings to you

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            • #51
              Some people when asked to produce evidence they don't have of a spurious claim they make have no other option than to deflect the question. In regards to slandering and malicious thoughts well.. That's a two way street and many of the posts on here slander The Lord Jesus and insult the prophets to such an extent it makes be feel like weeping!! Yet muslims do not see this slander or insults they make.

              I always try by best not to be personal about the prophet of Islam and even will say prophet though evidence leads me to believe his prophethood is doubtful. I accept for a great many people have a different view and can respect that. I wish the same respect could be shown to Jesus. I would have absolutely no problem at all if Islam claimed to be another religion in itself.. The fact it claims to replace the previous revelations of God as a kind of updated version.. Which is totally different to all that went before is what I take issue with. Personally I don't see what went before needed "updating" Christians accept Judaism and do not need in any way to change the Torah, Talmud or anything else. In fact we value the Jewish scriptures as they stand as a basis of Christianity. The only major thing we depart on is the question of the Messiah and weather Jesus fulfilled that role. Christians believe He did.. Jews do not and so still await their Messiah. Islam asks us to throw out all that and accept a different message based on one prophets revelation... It's a big ask.. And I don't feel it's unreasonable for Christians to ask to see this evidence of biblical corruption. If someone pops along in the future and says Allah changed his mind and here's another prophet with another revelation which everyone must follow.. Then I'm sure muslims round the world would quite rightly ask for evidence for such a claim.

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              • #52
                Off the record

                تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
                اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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                • #53
                  المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة pandora مشاهدة المشاركة
                  Some people when asked to produce evidence they don't have of a spurious claim they make have no other option than to deflect the question. In regards to slandering and malicious thoughts well.. That's a two way street and many of the posts on here slander The Lord Jesus and insult the prophets to such an extent it makes be feel like weeping!! Yet muslims do not see this slander or insults they make.

                  I always try by best not to be personal about the prophet of Islam and even will say prophet though evidence leads me to believe his prophethood is doubtful. I accept for a great many people have a different view and can respect that. I wish the same respect could be shown to Jesus. I would have absolutely no problem at all if Islam claimed to be another religion in itself.. The fact it claims to replace the previous revelations of God as a kind of updated version.. Which is totally different to all that went before is what I take issue with. Personally I don't see what went before needed "updating" Christians accept Judaism and do not need in any way to change the Torah, Talmud or anything else. In fact we value the Jewish scriptures as they stand as a basis of Christianity. The only major thing we depart on is the question of the Messiah and weather Jesus fulfilled that role. Christians believe He did.. Jews do not and so still await their Messiah. Islam asks us to throw out all that and accept a different message based on one prophets revelation... It's a big ask.. And I don't feel it's unreasonable for Christians to ask to see this evidence of biblical corruption. If someone pops along in the future and says Allah changed his mind and here's another prophet with another revelation which everyone must follow.. Then I'm sure muslims round the world would quite rightly ask for evidence for such a claim.

                  Peace
                  A prophet according to Mormonism has come who claimed to have the Scriptures to straighten out all religions and tens of millions follow Joseph Smith. The line has to be drawn somewhere; therefore, I draw it after the NT Bible. Any new revelation that contradicts it should be held suspect as far as I am concerned. God is not the author of confusion, but Satan who appears as a angel of light is. Notice I said he appears as a angel of light. That is deception through and through. When a god of a religion makes something that is not true appear to be true, that is deception and an author of confusion that shouldn't be followed.

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                  • #54
                    المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة Burninglight مشاهدة المشاركة
                    God is not the author of confusion, but Satan who appears as a angel of light is. Notice I said he appears as a angel of light. That is deception through and through. When a god of a religion makes something that is not true appear to be true, that is deception and an author of confusion that shouldn't be followed.


                    please read this :


                    [ Muslims are satan worshippers ???? ]







                    أنقر(ي) فضلاً أدناه :





                    سُبحان الذي يـُطعـِمُ ولا يُطعَم ،
                    منّ علينا وهدانا ، و أعطانا و آوانا ،
                    وكلّ بلاء حسن أبلانا ،
                    الحمدُ لله حمداً حمداً ،
                    الحمدُ لله حمداً يعدلُ حمدَ الملائكة المُسبّحين ، و الأنبياء و المُرسلين ،
                    الحمدُ لله حمدًا كثيراً طيّبا مُطيّبا مُباركاً فيه ، كما يُحبّ ربّنا و يرضى ،
                    اللهمّ لكَ الحمدُ في أرضك ، ولك الحمدُ فوق سماواتك ،
                    لكَ الحمدُ حتّى ترضى ، ولكَ الحمدُ إذا رضيتَ ، ولكَ الحمدُ بعد الرضى ،
                    اللهمّ لك الحمدُ حمداً كثيراً يملأ السماوات العلى ، يملأ الأرض و مابينهما ،
                    تباركتَ ربّنا وتعالَيتَ .


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                    • #55
                      Usually I do not respond to such replies that are old and off the topic or those in which the poster is not in the blog anymore but I will make an exception in this case just to show how much christians are using a double standard and how much they do not know their own scriptures. Also to point out their dubious ways in fooling others with all do respect. Lets start:

                      المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة pandora مشاهدة المشاركة
                      Some people when asked to produce evidence they don't have of a spurious claim they make have no other option than to deflect the question.
                      Tell that to yourself!!!!

                      المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة pandora
                      In regards to slandering and malicious thoughts well.. That's a two way street and many of the posts on here slander The Lord Jesus and insult the prophets to such an extent it makes be feel like weeping!! Yet muslims do not see this slander or insults they make.
                      That is a complete plain lie may I say. It is a law in Islam that if anybody insults any of the prophets he becomes an infidel and apostate to be charged with death if he does not repent within the Islamic law. The prophets in Islam including Jesus peace be upon him are all regarded as a high status and almost all Islamic theologians and sects believe that the prophets are infallible from major sin such as fornication, adultory, drinking alchohol, and murder....., however the bible does not see this rather the writers of the bible have asscociated such things to the prophets. In such an understanding it is the the bible who is insulting the prophets. Nobody here is insulting any prophet of god.
                      So with all do respect pandora I have to say that your tears to me seems like crocodile tears, or else you would have wept a sea of tears when reading the bible and seeing what it says about the prophets of god.


                      المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة pandora
                      I always try by best not to be personal about the prophet of Islam and even will say prophet though evidence leads me to believe his prophethood is doubtful. I accept for a great many people have a different view and can respect that. I wish the same respect could be shown to Jesus.
                      Jesus peace be upon him is treated with respect here as I stated before so stop spreading these lies, however where was your tears and sadness when burninglight insulted ALL the prophets of god peace be upon them when he called them such names!!??

                      Let us see how paul insults Jesus peace be upon him by calling him a curse!!!:

                      Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree. (Galatians 3:13)



                      المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة pandora
                      Personally I don't see what went before needed "updating" Christians accept Judaism and do not need in any way to change the Torah, Talmud or anything else. In fact we value the Jewish scriptures as they stand as a basis of Christianity.
                      Another double standard lie. Christianity first of all has not accepted the talmud. Second christianity did "Update" Jewdiasm or have you forgotten that one of the christian concepts which paul brought in was the abolishement of the law

                      He (Jesus) brought the hostility to an end, by abolishing the Law of commandments with its regulations”. (Ephesians 2:14)

                      For by works of the law no human being[a] will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. (Romans 3:20)

                      22 But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe. (Galatians 3:22)

                      .

                      المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة pandora
                      The only major thing we depart on is the question of the Messiah and weather Jesus fulfilled that role. Christians believe He did.. Jews do not and so still await their Messiah. Islam asks us to throw out all that and accept a different message based on one prophets revelation... It's a big ask.. And I don't feel it's unreasonable for Christians to ask to see this evidence of biblical corruption. If someone pops along in the future and says Allah changed his mind and here's another prophet with another revelation which everyone must follow.. Then I'm sure muslims round the world would quite rightly ask for evidence for such a claim.

                      Peace
                      Again with the double standards and lies . When did muslims say that Jesus peace be upon him did not fullfill his roles as a messiah!!!

                      If you are taking about dying for the sins well then let me remind you that nowhere in the Old testament does it say such a thing , but what is interesting is your description of our religion and saying that god changed his mind, since this is the SAME accusations judaism throws on christianity so this argument does not really support your claims (for example the abolishment of the law, trinity, dying for the sins of others, ......). Therefore when a jew is reading this he can ultimately suggest that this applies to christianity!!!

                      However what is humorous in your statement is saying that muslims believe that god changed his mind!!!! which is a continuation of the lies. The prophet and Islam did not just pop up it has been prophecised by the prophets of God including Jesus peace be upon him . The corruption of the scriptures is a fact that have been demonstrated, shown and proven by almost all biblical scholars even sometimes christians priests, so it is not just the muslims who are saying this.

                      I had to respond in such a way to expose the christian double standard and ignorance with all do respect, it is neccessary for the reader to look for the evidence by means of heart and mind and not to be tricked by such ways that imploy a twisting of one's words and a gathering of lies against the others while blending it with soft warm words that act as crocodile tears.

                      Peace

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                      • #56
                        This is good mashAllah

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