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  • #16
    If you want to know the truth of the Bible, then read the Bible, read it from the first word to the last, not bits here and there. Anything read out of context will not make sense. You cannot prove a thing false by using the opinions of others, and you cannot prove anything false that is true. Of course you can try, and I'm sure you will fool and persuade Muslims of the truth of your claims but for someone who has a great faith in God and his word your efforts would be wasted. Better use them more constructively reach out in friendship instead of being so rude all the time, you may get further.

    Peace to you.

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    • #17
      Problem that do not understand and do not want to understand

      I wrote here. Why I am not a Christian
      https://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/t195515.html

      التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة فداء الرسول; الساعة 08-06-2013, 10:50.

      تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
      اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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      • #18
        المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة فداء الرسول مشاهدة المشاركة
        Problem that do not understand and do not want to understand

        I wrote here. Why I am not a Christian
        https://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/t195515.html

        How can that be a comparison between Jesus and Mohammed. You use Old Testament ...the Old Testament was not the teachings of Jesus.

        I compared the teachings of Jesus to Mohammed and that is why I am not a Muslim. .. For information, another point of view. I do not particularly like this website, however the comparison chart is clear and easy to understand as far as comparisons go. Of course your copy of the Quran may tell it differently. I find many Muslims suffer the affliction of selective blindness when required.

        Christianity and Islam:
        A Side by Side Comparison*


        * It is not the purpose of this site to promote any particular religion, including Christianity.
        However, we do enjoy refuting nonsense, such as the claim that Muhammad
        and Jesus preached a morally equivalent message or that all religion is the same.


        "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who
        disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads
        and strike off every fingertip of them."
        "Allah" (Qur'an 8:12)


        "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and
        kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
        Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)


        "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself."
        Jesus (Matthew 5:14)


        Even though many Muslims regard terrorists who kill in the name of Allah as criminals, they cannot deny that Muhammad also killed in the name of Allah. What example of Jesus do Christians emulate which has them confused them with terrorists and criminals?
        التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة فداء الرسول; الساعة 09-06-2013, 00:59.

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        • #19
          How can that be a comparison between Jesus and Mohammed. You use Old Testament ...the Old Testament was not the teachings of Jesus.
          Big mistake, Jesus is not God of the Old Testament?Does God change?This calamity


          LUKE 19.27
          But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.


          "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and
          kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
          Muhammad (Ibn Ishaq 992)

          It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children.


          "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself."
          Jesus (Matthew 5:14)

          LUKE 10.3


          Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.




          Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.


          JOHN2.310-11




          If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:


          Even though many Muslims regard terrorists who kill in the name of Allah as criminals, they cannot deny that Muhammad also killed in the name of Allah. What example of Jesus do Christians emulate which has them confused them with terrorists and criminals?

          Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. (8)

          تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
          اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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          • #20
            Yahweh is God of the Old Testament, Jesus is one in essence with Yahweh, however that does not mean that Jesus is equal with the father, there is only one God.

            you edited my link..why? Afraid of comparisons..unless they are your own. Is that a fair way to conduct a dialogue?

            Again you misunderstand the scriptures..

            But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me (Luke 19: 27).

            This passage belongs to the parable of the 'Ten Minas', and does not reveal direct description of an event. Furthermore, despite the fact that the parable includes Christians, e.g. the 'three servants', those executing the judgement appear to be a group distinguished from these and are referred to as ‘those standing by’.


            Finally, the parable does not refer to a Christian event, but a futurist, imminent and divine judgement; the closest analogy is Luke 9: 26:


            ‘If anyone is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels’.


            Both Mark and Matthew relate to this event as a time of future judgement:


            The Son of Man will send out His angels and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of sins (Matthew 13: 41-42)


            As in Luke 19 these angels executing the judgement are distinguished from the actual servants (Jesus followers), about which Matthew records Jesus saying the following~


            ‘Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear’ (Matthew 13: 43)


            You are confusing Christianity on earth, in the era of Christ with future and divine judgement, executed by divine coming and angelic intervention. Where will you stand on the day of divine judgement?

            what you have when you use verses out of context is a hotchpotch of random events that make little sense to those with no knowledge of the Holy Bible.

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            • #21
              Yahweh is God of the Old Testament, Jesus is one in essence with Yahweh, however that does not mean that Jesus is equal with the father, there is only one God.
              Does God of the Old Testament is unfair?
              Do you not believe in the Old Testament?
              Does God change from the Old Testament to the New Testament?


              Is Jesus did not exist in the Old Testament


              you edited my link..why? Afraid of comparisons..unless they are your own. Is that a fair way to conduct a dialogue?


              Again you misunderstand the scriptures..

              Forbidden to publish an infidel sites in Islam
              See Law Forum
              But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me (Luke 19: 27).


              This passage belongs to the parable of the 'Ten Minas', and does not reveal direct description of an event. Furthermore, despite the fact that the parable includes Christians, e.g. the 'three servants', those executing the judgement appear to be a group distinguished from these and are referred to as ‘those standing by’.

              Trivial argument




              what you have when you use verses out of context is a hotchpotch of random events that make little sense to those with no knowledge of the Holy Bible.
              This is the only guide. This is the Bankruptcy

              تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
              اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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              • #22
                Does God of the Old Testament is unfair?Do you not believe in the Old Testament?
                Does God change from the Old Testament to the New Testament?




                Is Jesus did not exist in the Old Testament
                No God of the Old Testament is not unfair, God is God, unchanging and eternal.

                yes, I believe in the Old Testament, it is the founding law of God.

                No, God is unchanging and eternal.

                Jesus the man did not exist in the Old Testament, The essence of Jesus..the word of God.. Coexisted for all eternity until such a time that God decreed was right for Jesus to be born to the world.

                Forbidden to publish an infidel sites in Islam
                fair enough...

                Trivial argument
                Trivial or not..that's the explanation.

                This is the only guide. This is the Bankruptcy
                whilst the Quran is written in a random fashion the Bible is written in chronological order, by using verses out of sequence or context diminishes the intent of the lesson that God is wishing to get across.

                Bankruptcy...well you should know.

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                • #23
                  No God of the Old Testament is not unfair, God is God, unchanging and eternal.

                  How God does not change, and the teachings of the Old Testament is different from the New Testament


                  You told me not to compare the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad Old Testament


                  Is Jesus came to invalidate the law of Moses




                  yes, I believe in the Old Testament, it is the founding law of God.

                  Why do not you want to compare the Old Testament with the Koran




                  No, God is unchanging and eternal.

                  Yes, God does not change, but the Bible has changed, this proves interpolating
                  Jesus the man did not exist in the Old Testament, The essence of Jesus..the word of God.. Coexisted for all eternity until such a time that God decreed was right for Jesus to be born to the world.

                  You brought this interpretation of myths, I can not believe that no one has the mind can believe it


                  Pandora: Is the Old Testament teachings of Jesus?




                  Trivial or not..that's the explanation.
                  The problem that you can not convince one of Christianity


                  Why are you here?


                  whilst the Quran is written in a random fashion the Bible is written in chronological order, by using verses out of sequence or context diminishes the intent of the lesson that God is wishing to get across.


                  Bankruptcy...well you should know
                  This do you think you are, Keep it to yourself

                  تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
                  اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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