Do you mean the Gospels of Mathew, Mark,Luke and John? Or do you mean the scribes who actually did the writing?

The Gospel of Barnabas you refer to had nothing to do with divine inspiration of any kind. The errors it contains are most definitely human. In fact it's doubtful that the Apostle Barnabas had anything at all to do with it. You could google it and see what a non Islamic source has to say on the subject. There's lots of info to be found.

There is an opinion that Mohammed got most of his knowledge of the Bible from the Gnostic Gospels widely circulated at the time. Also there were many heretical "christian" cults in Arabia at that time. This goes some way in explaining why there are some stories in the Quran that claim to be left out of the Bible by deliberate corruption of the texts. Jesus and the clay birds is one that comes to mind.
This comes from the "Infant Gospel of Thomas" who never knew Jesus and had no connections to anyone who did. So this Gospel ...gnostic gospel.. Lacked provenance and was never included in the canonised Bible that was in widespread use during the time of Mohammed.

But you have no evidence to prove your version is any less nonsensical than mine.

Yes, we shall end the dialogue. I fear we shall never agree. I think the person who suggested I have a dialogue here, had different ideas to mine...of the purpose of that dialogue. Maybe hoped for a different outcome.

I am sure they meant well.

Peace and love to you.

Any dialogue speak? You are attacking Islam without evidence is lack of respect for you
And talking about Christianity in a way that does not convince a small child

I'm Muslim girl I love. You'll learn how to dialogue and come here

Note: I asked you a question in Islam but you would prefer to have indiscriminate and non-system

Summary of the dialogue with Pandora


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Proved that he was not in need of the Bible

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Proved that the Bible does not lead to Allah


https://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/560170-post52.html

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Proven distortion of the Bible

https://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/560171-post53.html
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https://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/560101-post35.html


Pandora questions about Islam


Love in Islam

https://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/560173-post54.html
Guide to distort the Bible from the Qur'an

https://www.ebnmaryam.com/vb/560116-post43.html


Allah guided Bandora

Correct..how can God be in a book? The Quran also is a book. Gods greatness can not be contained in a book.

Question for Islam.. How is Allah in a book?

How does this proof? The Bible guides, the Holy Spirit shows, God owns me.

Question for Islam... How does the Quran lead you to Allah in a way that is any different to the Bible or any other revered Holy Book of any other faith you wish to compare?

How so ? We have the archeological proof as well as Biblical proof that certain Gospels ...such as the Gnostics were never included in the Bible in circulation during the time of Mohammed.

Question for Islam.. What proof do you have that shows the Bible was corrupted before or during the time of Mohammed? I mean independent proof not quotes from the Quran or hadiths etc.

Question for Islam... How do you know that Mohammed received his alleged revelation from an Angel? Proof...

Question for Islam... Why did Allah grant special personal favours to Mohammed? No other prophet in the whole of the scriptures was granted personal favours.

Question for Islam ... Why do you wish to spread Islam to everyone? Does the Quran not say there is no compulsion in religion?

Question for muslims.. Why do you work so hard to discredit and disprove the faith of others?

Question for muslims.. Have you ever given deep thought or questioned your belief in Islam?

Question for muslims... Have you ever considered what you ask when you seek to convert a person to your Islam?

I am not looking forward to you answers with any great degree of anticipation as I have learned from experience that many muslims do not see things in an objective way in matters of faith. Constantly quoting the Quran, which is pretty useless if the other person doubts the very validity of the Quran as word of God.

I never claimed to be a religious scholar, so if you find my answers lacking its because I do not have a degree in theology or the likes. I speak as an honest person who passionately believes in a christian God who meets my every spiritual needs and more.

Having read some of the other threads in the English section here I see the tone of debate... Which I don't find is at all productive or gives an impression of a willingness to meet one of a different faith as equal in the eyes of God.

Last question to muslims...Did Allah give you the moral authority over all?

I will add an answer to that last ? I don't think so...the moral authority over mankind is for God alone.

Peace, love and Gods blessings to you at what is a Holy time of year for me and Christians worldwide.

I ask you to respect that at least.

Pandora:
I want answer to that dialogue with you leads to deadlock
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Do you want to ask about Islam

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Or dissemination of Christianity

Select and close this topic
And another opens

I asked you ten questions above about your Islam, you can choose to answer them or ignore them.

What on earth do you want me to ask you about Islam? If you do not like the questions I ask already then maybe you could just answer the question you think I should be asking you, so you can then answer them in the way you think is good for you.

Then we can end this and go on with whatever... Or let's just end it, if that suits your aim.

Either option is fine with me.

I will answer all your questions - Allah willing -
You just select your goal of dialogue

in the name of Allah


The Quran is the word of Allah
The Qur'an is the Constitution
Contains all the provisions on religion and life

How is Allah in a book
The One true God is a reflection of the unique concept that Islam associates with God. To a Muslim, Allah is the Almighty Creator and Sustainer of the universe, Who is similar to nothing, and nothing is comparable to Him. The Prophet Muhammad was asked by his contemporaries about Allah; the answer came directly from God Himself in the form of a short chapter of the Qur'an, which is considered to be the essence of the unity or the motto of monotheism. This is chapter 112, which reads:“ In the name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate. Say (O Muhammad), He is God, the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone”.

I believe that the Bible from Allah but was distorted

There is a contradiction between the God in the Old Testament and the New Testament
God in the Bible, such as animals and anything
In the Bible God his mother. Eat. Sleeps.

In contrast to see God in the Quran

In the name of Allah , the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.

[All] praise is [due] to Allah , Lord of the worlds

The Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful,

Sovereign of the Day of Recompense.

It is You we worship and You we ask for help.

Guide us to the straight path -

The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.

The simplest example of distortion of the Bible



Leviticus 26:29

You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters.

Deuteronomy 28:53

Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you.

Deuteronomy 28:56-57

The most gentle and sensitive woman among you?so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot?will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For she intends to eat them secretly during the siege and in the distress that your enemy will inflict on you in your cities.

2 Kings 6:29

So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him."

Jeremiah 19:9

I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and daughters, and they will eat one another's flesh during the stress of the siege imposed on them by the enemies who seek their lives.'

Lamentations 2:20

"Look, O LORD, and consider: Whom have you ever treated like this? Should women eat their offspring, the children they have cared for? Should priest and prophet be killed in the sanctuary of the Lord?

Lamentations 4:10

With their own hands compassionate women have cooked their own children, who became their food when my people were destroyed.



John Gill says in his commentary...

shall the women eat their fruit; their children, the fruit of their womb, as the Targum; their newborn babes, that hung at their breasts, and were carried in their arms; it seems they did, as was threatened they should, Leviticus 26:29; and so they did at the siege of Samaria, and at the siege of Jerusalem, both by the Chaldeans and the Romans:

[and] children of a span long? or of a hand's breadth; the breadth of the palms of the hand, denoting very little ones: or "children handled," or "swaddled with the hands" (John Gill's Exposition to the Bible, Commentary on Lamentations 2:20,



These were very poor innocent little babies being eaten by their parents. How cruel!

John Gill says somewhere else...



And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons,.... Which was fulfilled at the siege of Samaria, in the times of Joram, 2 Kings 6:29 and at the siege of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar, Lamentations 4:10; and though there is no instance of it at that time in the sacred records, the Jews {p} tells us of one Doeg ben Joseph, who died and left a little one with his mother, who was very fond of him; but at this siege slew him with her own hands, and ate him, with respect to which they suppose Jeremiah makes the lamentation, Lamentations 2:2; and of this also there was an instance at the last siege of Jerusalem, by Titus, when a woman, named Mary, of a considerable family, boiled her son, and ate part of him, and the rest was found in her house when the seditious party broke in upon her, as Josephus {q} relates:

and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat; of which, though no instances are given, it is as reasonable to suppose it was done as the former. Some of the Jewish writers {r} think, that in this prediction is included, that children should eat their parents, as well as parents their children, as in Ezekiel 5:10. (John Gill's Exposition to the Bible, Commentary on Leviticus 26:29, e)



If it wasn't enough that parents were made to eat their children, but the children were also made to eat their parents as we can see in the follow verse...



Ezekiel 5:10

Therefore in your midst fathers will eat their children, and children will eat their fathers. I will inflict punishment on you and will scatter all your survivors to the winds.



Family Members Ordered To Eat Each Other Up


How can God be

Twelve Proofs that Muhammad is a True Prophet

My brothers and sisters everywhere! With this essay, I am not singling out the adherents of Islam - to which I ascribe - but rather I am writing this essay to every man and woman throughout the whole world.

I ask Allah that He facilitates tat this essay reaches every ear, falls under the sight of every eye, and is understood by every heart...

Muhammad the son of `Abdullah is Allah's Prophet and the Final Messenger Sent by Allah to the Inhabitants of Earth.

My brothers and sisters everywhere! You should know that the Messenger, Muhammad the son of `Abdullah (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) is Allah's Messenger in reality and truth. The evidences that show his veracity are abundant. None but an infidel, who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs.

Among these proofs:

1. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) was raised illiterate, unable to read or write, and remained like that till his death. Among all his people, he was known as being truthful and trustworthy. Before receiving revelation, he had no prior knowledge of Religion or any previously sent Message. He remained like that for his first forty years. Revelation then came to Muhammad with the Koran that we now have between our hands. This Koran mentioned most of the accounts found in the previous scriptures, telling us about these events in the greatest detail as if he witnessed them. These accounts came precisely as they were found in the Torah sent down to Moses and in the Gospel sent down to Jesus. Neither the Jews or Christians were able to belie him regarding anything that he said.

2. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also foretold of everything that would occur to him and his community after him, pertaining to victory, the removal of the tyrannical kingdoms of Chosroes [the royal title for the Zoroastrian kings of Persia] and Caesar, and the establishment of the religion of Islam throughout the earth. These events occurred exactly as Muhammad foretold, as if he was reading the future from an open book.

3. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also brought an Arabic Koran that is the peak of eloquence and clarity. The Koran challenged those eloquent and fluent Arabs of his time, who initially belied him, to bring forth a single chapter like the Koran. The eloquent Arabs of his day were unable to contest this Koran.

Indeed, till our day, none has ever dared to claim that he has been able to compose words that equal-or even approach-the order, grace, beauty, and splendor of this Glorious Koran.

4. The life history of this Noble Prophet was a perfect example of being upright, merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, generous, distant from all evil character, and ascetic in all worldly matters, while striving solely for the reward of the Hereafter. Moreover, in all his actions and dealings, he was ever mindful and fearful of Allah.

5. Allah instilled great love for Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) in the hearts of all who believed in and met him. This love reached such a degree that any of his companions would willingly sacrifice his (or her) self, mother or father for him.

Till today, those who believe in Muhammad honor and love him. Anyone of those who believe in him would ransom his own family and wealth to see him, even if but once.

6. All of history has not preserved the biography of any person in the manner it has preserved the life of Muhammad, who is the most influential human in history.

Nor has the entire earth known of anyone whom every morning and evening, and many times thereafter throughout the day, is thought of by those who believe in him. Upon remembering Muhammad, the believers in him will greet him and ask Allah to bless him. They do such with full hearts and true love for him.

7. Nor has there every been a man on earth whom is still followed in all his doings by those who believe in him.

Those who believe in Muhammad, sleep in the manner he slept; purify themselves (through ablution and ritual washing) in the manner he purified himself; and adhere to his practice in the way they eat, drink, and clothe themselves.

Indeed in all aspects of their lives, the believers in Muhammad adhere to the teachings he spread among them and the path that he traveled upon during his life.

During every generation, from his day till our time, the believers in this Noble Prophet have fully adhered to his teachings. With some, this has reached the degree that they desire to follow and adhere to the Prophet's way in his personal matters regarding which Allah has not sought of them to adhere to in worship. For example, some will only eat those specific foods or only wear those specific garments that the Messenger liked.

Let alone all that, all those who believe in Muhammad repeat those praises of Allah, special prayers, and invocations that he would say during each of his actions during day and night, like: what he would say when he greeted people, upon entering and leaving the house, entering and leaving the mosque, entering and leaving the bathroom, going to sleep and awaking from sleep, observing the new crescent, observing the new fruit on trees, eating, drinking, dressing, riding, traveling and returning from travel, etc.

Let alone all that, all those who believe in Muhammad fully perform-even to the minute detail-every act of worship-like prayer, fasting, charity, and pilgrimage-as this Noble Messenger (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) taught and as he himself performed.

All of this allows those who believe in him, to live their lives in all aspects with this Noble Messenger as their example, as if he was standing before them, for them to follow in all their doings.

8. There has never been nor will there ever be a man anywhere upon this earth who has received such love, respect, honor, and obedience in all matters-small and large alike-as has this Noble Prophet.

9. Since his day, in every region of the earth and during every period, this Noble Prophet has been followed by individuals from all races, colors and peoples. Many of those who followed him were previously Christians, Jews, pagans, idolaters, or without any religion. Among those who chose to follow him, were those who were known for their sound judgment, wisdom, reflection, and foresight. They chose to follow this Noble Prophet after they witnessed the signs of his truthfulness and the evidences of his miracles. They did not choose to follow Muhammad out of compulsion or coercion or because they had adopted the ways of their fathers and mothers.

Indeed many of the followers of this Prophet (may Allah's blessings peace be upon him), chose to follow him during the time when Islam was weak, when there were few Muslims, and when there was severe persecution of his followers on earth. Most people who have followed this Prophet (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) have done so not to acquire some material benefits. Indeed many of his followers have suffered the greatest forms of harm and persecution as a result of following this Prophet. Despite all this harm and persecution, this did not turn them back from his religion.

My brethren! All of this clearly indicates to anyone possessing any sense, that this Prophet was truly and really Allah's messenger and that he was not just a man who claimed prophethood or spoke about Allah without knowledge.

10. With all this, Muhammad came with a great religion in its credal and legal make-up.

Muhammad described Allah with qualities of complete perfection, and at the same time in a manner that is free of ascribing to Him any imperfection. Neither the philosophers or the wise could ever describe Allah like such. Indeed it is impossible to imagine that any human mind could conceive of an existing being that possesses such complete ability, knowledge, and greatness; Who has subdued the creation; Who has encompassed everything in the universe, small or large; and Who possesses such perfect mercy.

Nor is it in the ability of any human being to place a perfect law based upon justice, equality, mercy and objectivity for all human activity on earth like the laws that Muhammad brought for all spheres of human activity - like buying and selling, marriage and divorce, renting, testimony, custody, and all other contracts that are necessary to uphold life and civilization on earth.

11. It is impossible that any person conceive wisdom,, morals, good manners, nobleness of characters as what this honorable Prophet (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought.

In a full and complete manner, Muhammad spread a teaching regarding character and manners toward one' parents, relatives, fiends, family, humanity, animals, plants and inanimate objects. It is impossible for the human mind alone to grasp all of that teaching or come with a similar teaching.

All of that unequivocally indicates that this Messenger did not bring an) of this religion from his own accord, but that it was rather a teaching and inspiration that he received from the One Who created the earth and the high heavens above and created this universe in its miraculous architecture and perfection.

12. The legal and credal make-up of the religion that the Messenger, Muhammad, (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought resembles the engineering of the heavens and the earth. All of that indicates that He who created the heavens and the earth is the One Who sent down this great law and upright religion.

The degree of inimitability of the Divine law that was sent down upon Muhammad is to the same degree of inimitability of the Divine creation of the heavens and earth. For just as humanity cannot create this universe, in the same manner humanity cannot bring forth a law like Allah's law that He sent down upon His servant and messenger Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him).

What do you mean by special features


I'm not forced to enter Islam
I explain Islam



Where evidence

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I do not understand


Very funny

The One True God is not a concept unique to Islam. Your post offers no proof of your claim, this is your belief, based on what the Quran tells you.

There is no contradiction between the Old and New Testaments, this comes from your misguided understanding of the scriptures.

Your Prophet Mohammed did not believe the previous scriptures were distorted.

[COLOR="black"][COLOR="black"][COLOR="black"][COLOR="Blue"]5/A very important section of the Qur'an which deals with the scripture of the Jews and Christians and their relation to the Qur'an is Surah 5:43-49. These verses record how Jews came to Muhummad to ask him for a decision, and it tells the answer he was to give them.

How come they (come) unto thee (Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? ... Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and a light ... And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil). Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers.

And unto thee (Muslims) have We revealed the Scripture (the Qur'an) with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced-out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ. (5:43-48, MP)

God sent down, the Torah for the Jews. The Gospel of the New Testament for the Christians. Islam for the Muslims...all three scriptures should be considered as of equal importance...if they are from God, as in the ONE TRUE GOD.