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  • #16
    المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة Authentic Man مشاهدة المشاركة
    Amazing job sister, carolina
    May Allah bless you

    We are ready to start a mild debate with whoever rejects peace in Islam
    or
    about any Islamic - Christian topic
    Thank you brother
    I was pleased by your nice comment on the thread
    وإخوان حسبتهم دروعا ×××× فكانوها ولكن للأعادي
    وخلتهم سهاما صائبات ×××× فكانوها ولكن في فؤادي
    وقالوا قد صفت منا قلوب ×××× لقد صدقوا ولكن من ودادي

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    • #17

      Christians love to think that their religion is all about peace and love. This is true for many parts of the Bible, but is SOUNDLY FALSE in many other parts!

      Let us examine the Bible:



      "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 5:43-44)"

      "But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.
      (From the NIV Bible, Luke 6:35)"

      It is quite clear from the above Verses that Jesus peace be upon him commands his followers to love their enemies and to give them without expecting anything in return. This is all wonderful and I appreciate that Christians bring such Verses up to prove their points about the Bible being a Book of Love and Peace. However, let us look at the other side of the Bible and see if this claim is really true for 100% of the Bible's NT:
      وإخوان حسبتهم دروعا ×××× فكانوها ولكن للأعادي
      وخلتهم سهاما صائبات ×××× فكانوها ولكن في فؤادي
      وقالوا قد صفت منا قلوب ×××× لقد صدقوا ولكن من ودادي

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      • #18
        Above, we saw Jesus commanding his followers to be infinitely patient with their enemies and to help them without expecting anything good in return from them. Yet below, we see Jesus losing his temper and killing his enemies while he was MORE POWERFUL THAN THEM!

        If he were in a bad situation where in order to survive he had to kill some of his enemies to enable him to run away or something, then this would be a completely different issue. But below, you will see that Jesus had the full power and his enemies were the WEAK!


        "He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.' After Jesus had said this, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem. (From the NIV Bible, Luke 19:26-28)"

        Luke 19:26-28 is an obvious contradiction to what Jesus taught from Love toward the enemies. According to Luke 19:11, Jesus was telling a parable or story. But even though he was telling a parable, it is clear that Jesus believed in it, since he preached it by his own mouth, and practiced it as shown below.

        Jesus did kill an enemy's kids before. Jesus did honor and believe in the idea of this parable. It is also important to know that Christianity is a religion of swords as Christians say "Islam is a religion of swords":

        "He said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. (From the NIV Bible, Luke 22:36)"

        Jesus killed the woman's children:

        "So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. (From the NIV Bible, Revelation 2:22-23)"

        All what the woman was doing is committing adultery, which is something very common among most Christians in the West today anyway with their "boyfriend-girlfriend living together" to "one night stand" to "having sex with his date or girlfriend", etc...

        Of course Adultery is punishable in Islam. But I wonder why did Jesus kill the woman's innocent children? What did they do? All this to prove something to the Churches?! I thought you should love your enemies and forgive them? It's not like the woman had killed anybody!! Let alone her children didn't have any part of Jesus and their mother! There is no record in the Bible of these children committing any crimes or sins!
        Anyway, according to the NIV Bible's Historians and Theologians, the Book of Revelation and the rest of the Bible's Books and Gospels are corrupted, doubtful and unreliable, and their authors were not Messengers of GOD Almighty, but normal people.

        So everything in the Book of Revelation and in the rest of the Bible is doubtful and unreliable.
        وإخوان حسبتهم دروعا ×××× فكانوها ولكن للأعادي
        وخلتهم سهاما صائبات ×××× فكانوها ولكن في فؤادي
        وقالوا قد صفت منا قلوب ×××× لقد صدقوا ولكن من ودادي

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        • #19
          Other non-peaceful commands by Jesus in the Bible:

          As I mentioned above, in the NT, we read about Jesus commanding his followers to buy swords "He said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. (From the NIV Bible, Luke 22:36)"

          We also read about Jesus bringing corruption and destruction to earth rather than peace "Do not suppose that I [Jesus] have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 10:34)"

          Jesus hitting others with a whip, not that it makes him bad, but certainly takes his "perfection" away "So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, 'Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!.' (From the NIV Bible, John 2:15)"

          Jesus not respecting the life of the innocent animals, which again takes away his "perfection" from him "He [Jesus] said to them, 'Go!' so they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 8:32)"

          Jesus taught his followers to hate! "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters- yes, even his own life- he cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:26)"

          Jesus said that whoever calls somebody a "fool" shall be in danger of hell fire (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 5:22),
          yet he called people "fools" himself (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 23:17).

          So can I now claim that since Jesus took up arms, taught his followers to
          kill their enemies, buy swords and use them, and hate their parents and to call others fools as he did it himself that Christianity is a false religion?

          Quite honestly, I wouldn't be shallow enough to do that. My refusal of Christianity's Trinity and belief of the Bible's historical corruptions comes from a much bigger reasoning than this.


          please visit
          Answering Trinity - Jesus is not the Creator of the Universe
          https://www.angelfire.com/bug/answering/at.htm


          Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible

          https://www.angelfire.com/bug/answering/contra.htm
          وإخوان حسبتهم دروعا ×××× فكانوها ولكن للأعادي
          وخلتهم سهاما صائبات ×××× فكانوها ولكن في فؤادي
          وقالوا قد صفت منا قلوب ×××× لقد صدقوا ولكن من ودادي

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          • #20
            السلام عليكم انا عضو جديد ولا اعرف شي

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            • #21
              المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة Arooj مشاهدة المشاركة
              السلام عليكم انا عضو جديد ولا اعرف شي
              و عليكم السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته

              ماذا تريدين أن تعرفي اختي الكريمة
              ما عليكِ إلا السؤال
              التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة نـــ القلوب ـــور; الساعة 18-02-2012, 02:33.
              اهداء و تخليد لذكرى أطفال ضحايا مجازر عائلة الأسد .. اللهم ارزقهم فردوس الجنان ..
              والله لن ننساكم و سننتقم لكم يا احبتي
              والله لا بقينا إن بقي الأسد


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnfM4...ature=youtu.be

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              • #22
                All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 94% that Aren’t

                Posted on 20 January 2010 by Danios

                CNN recently published an article entitled Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated; according to a study released by Duke University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, “the terrorist threat posed by radicalized Muslim-Americans has been exaggerated.”
                Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”
                But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).
                Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database


                According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.
                Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!
                The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews). Let them dare say it…they couldn’t; it would be political and social suicide to say such a thing. Most Americans would shut down such talk as bigoted; yet, similar statements continue to be said of Islam, without any repercussions.
                The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? (For the record: I don’t believe in such profiling, because I am–unlike the right wing nutters–a believer in American ideals.)
                The moral of the story is that Americans ought to calm down when it comes to Islamic terrorism. Right wingers always live in mortal fear–or rather, they try to make you feel that way. In fact, Pamela Geller (the queen of internet Islamophobia) literally said her mission was to “scare the bejeezus outta ya.” Don’t be fooled, and don’t be a wuss. You don’t live in constant fear of radicalized Latinos (unless you’re Lou Dobbs), even though they commit seven times more acts of terrorism than Muslims in America. Why then are you wetting yourself over Islamic radicals? In the words of Cenk Uygur: you’re at a ten when you need to be at a four. Nobody is saying that Islamic terrorism is not a matter of concern, but it’s grossly exaggerated.
                Related Posts:
                Europol report: All terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that aren’t
                RAND report: Threat of homegrown jihadism exaggerated, Zero U.S. civilians killed since 9/11
                Update:
                A reader by the name of Dima added:
                The FBI Terrorism Report shows…[that] the highest number of terrorist incidents in the U.S. by region (90) took place in Puerto Rico.
                Second Update:
                An Islamophobe commented on this article, saying that the statistics are flawed because the FBI included small acts such as “stealing rats from a lab” as an act of terrorism. Of course, this is patently false. Here is a breakdown of the terrorist attacks by type (the pie chart is from the FBI’s official website and can be accessed here):
                Terrorism by Event, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database


                تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
                اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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                • #23
                  I live in the USA. I don't believe that all Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorist acts committed in America most of them have been by Muslims. Can you explain why that is?

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                  • #24
                    [QUOTE = Burninglight؛ 594986] أنا أعيش في الولايات المتحدة الأمريكية. لا أعتقد أن كل المسلمين إرهابيون، ولكن كانت جميع الأعمال الإرهابية التي ارتكبت في أمريكا معظمهم من قبل المسلمين. هل يمكن ان توضح لماذا هذا؟ [/ QUOTE]

                    Prove it

                    تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
                    اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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                    • #25
                      المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة Burninglight مشاهدة المشاركة
                      I live in the USA. I don't believe that all Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorist acts committed in America most of them have been by Muslims. Can you explain why that is?
                      No seriously , what's the joke ? Read this topic to see how WRONG this statement is :
                      https://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not...s-are-muslims/

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                      • #26
                        المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة نصير الدين مشاهدة المشاركة
                        No seriously , what's the joke ? Read this topic to see how WRONG this statement is :
                        https://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not...s-are-muslims/
                        I looked at that info you sent, and it doesn't answer my question, but thanks for trying.

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                        • #27

                          I live in the USA. I don't believe that all Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorist acts committed in America most of them have been by Muslims.
                          المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة شمائل مشاهدة المشاركة
                          Prove it
                          No answer !
                          Muslim are not terrorist !











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                          سُبحان الذي يـُطعـِمُ ولا يُطعَم ،
                          منّ علينا وهدانا ، و أعطانا و آوانا ،
                          وكلّ بلاء حسن أبلانا ،
                          الحمدُ لله حمداً حمداً ،
                          الحمدُ لله حمداً يعدلُ حمدَ الملائكة المُسبّحين ، و الأنبياء و المُرسلين ،
                          الحمدُ لله حمدًا كثيراً طيّبا مُطيّبا مُباركاً فيه ، كما يُحبّ ربّنا و يرضى ،
                          اللهمّ لكَ الحمدُ في أرضك ، ولك الحمدُ فوق سماواتك ،
                          لكَ الحمدُ حتّى ترضى ، ولكَ الحمدُ إذا رضيتَ ، ولكَ الحمدُ بعد الرضى ،
                          اللهمّ لك الحمدُ حمداً كثيراً يملأ السماوات العلى ، يملأ الأرض و مابينهما ،
                          تباركتَ ربّنا وتعالَيتَ .


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                          • #28
                            I looked at that info you sent, and it doesn't answer my question, but thanks for trying.
                            While it's not honoring to bash someone who can't response , this REALLY proves how low Burnlught can go . He makes the outrageous claim that MOST of the terrorist acts - and that's if we agree to their definition of terrorism - are done by Muslims . I show him that in USA 94% are commited by others - 7% by Jews ! - and in Europe 99.6% are commited by non Muslims . So what does he do ? He ignores all of that with a smug smile on his face !

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