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    Matthew didn’t write the Gospel of Matthew
    !

    Matthew 9 )New International Version)

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...09&version=NIV


    9As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector's booth. "Follow me," he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.


    Luke had never seen jesus



    Luke 1 )New International Version

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...01&version=NIV



    1Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most

    As you can see that luke ( who was not one of the twelve Disciples and didn’t meet jesus at all) was not a witness to the life of jesus (peace be upon him) and that the information was gathered from eyewitnesses, and that the words are not inspired to him from God almighty






    the Gospel between your hands was written after the raise of Christ



    It is well known that the first Christians Gospel is the Gospel of Mark, which was written about 60-75 AD.
    That is forty years after the raise of Christ and that means that even Christ himself knows nothing about the Gospel that exists between their hands
    !

    So how did they explain that ?



    Mark 8 )New International Version)
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...08&version=NIV

    35For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me and for the gospel will save it

    Matthew 26 )New International Version)
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...26&version=NIV


    13I tell you the truth, wherever this gospel is preached throughout the world, what she has done will also be told, in memory of her."

    But as we can see that the Gospel Between our hands those days is not the one that was with Christ
    So where is the Gospel of Christ
    ????


    Where is the Gospel that Christ was talking about ???
    Their was a Gospel with him but where can we find it now ??

    There was a gospel before the raise of Christ . so where is that Gospel ?

    Not the Gospels of Mark , Luke , Matthew and John that were written years latter after the raise of Christ

    What does the Quran say about that ?
    When was the Gospel handled to Christ before or after his raise ?

    Surah 5
    110. Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic
    .'


    So we can’t believe in the Gospel until they Bring the Gospel of Christ and not the Gospels of Mark , Luke , Matthew and John



    The Gospel of Mark


    This gospel is the oldest and supposedly the most original one in the New Testament


    Traditionally, the gospel is said to have been written shortly before70 A.D. in Rome
    , at a time of impending persecution and when destruction loomed over Jerusalem. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1064)"

    "Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark. They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark. His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost. (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes [1], page 1528)"

    "This verse, which reads, "But if you do not forgive, neither will your heavenly Father forgive your transgressions," is omitted in the best manuscripts. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1081)"

    "This passage, termed the Longer Ending to the Marcan gospel by comparison with a much briefer conclusion found in some less important manuscripts, has traditionally been accepted as a canonical part of the gospel and was defined as such by the Council of Trent. Early citations of it by the Fathers indicate that it was composed by the second century, although vocabulary and style indicate that it was written by someone other than Mark. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1088)"

    A new captured image of this book's corruption


    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...;&version=NIV;



    If the "gospel of Mark" was indeed Divine and from GOD Almighty, then we wouldn't have this corruption, that they're admitting above, in it
    .


    The Gospel of John


    "Many scholars of the past two centuries have denied that John wrote this book, partly because of their belief that the author fabricated many details such as the miracles and the discourses of Jesus
    . (The Holman Illustrated Study Bible, ISBN: 978-1-58640-275-4, Gospel of John, Page1540)"

    "Critical Analysis makes it difficult to accept the idea that the gospel as it now stands was written by one person. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"

    "Within the gospel itself there are also some inconsistencies. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"

    "To solve these problems, scholars have proposed various rearrangements that would produce a smoother order. However, most have come to the conclusion that the inconsistencies were probably produced by subsequent editing in which homogeneous materials were added to a shorter original. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"

    "Other difficulties for any theory of eyewitness authorship of the gospel in its present form
    are presented by its highly developed theology and by certain elements of its literary style. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"

    "The gospel contains many details about Jesus not found in the synoptic gospels
    . (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"

    "The final editing of the gospel and arrangement in its present form probably dates from between A.D. 90 and 100. Traditionally, Ephesus has been favored as the place of composition, though many support a location in Syria, perhaps the city of Antioch, while some have suggested other places, including Alexandria. (The New American Bible, ISBN: 978-0-529-06484-4, Page 1136)"

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  • ديدات بلس
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    ياريت الترجمة بعد كل جملة عشان اكون فاهم الي اقولو ان شاء الله
    اقسم بالله ما حنسالك المعروف دا :)

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    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    نبدأ في النقظة الأولى حول ألوهية المسيح

    jesus in the bible has a God


    Paul said in book of Ephesians about Jesus “the God of our Lord Jesus” Ephesians 1:17 NKJV

    Mathew says about Jesus in the Gospel of Mathew “Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Matthew 27:46 NIV

    John mentions that Jesus in the gospel of John said “I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God”. John 20:17
    NKJV

    All Christian scholars are saying that this a prophecy from God about Jesus "Here is my servant, whom I uphold” Isaiah 42:1 (NIV)

    Peter says in the book of acts about Jesus that he is a servant of God “When God raised up his servant, he sent him first to you" Acts

    John says in the book of revelation that Jesus said after his ascention “Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name” Revelation 3:12-14 (NIV)

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  • ديدات بلس
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    اخي الكريم انا وشخص اخر سنحاور النصراني ولكن انا ما عندي علم كافي
    فا ابغا احد هنا في الموقع يكتبلي نقاط مهمة وانا انقلها في محاورتي مع النصراني
    يعني

    1_الوهية المسيح
    (في هذه النقطة تذكرلي ان المسيح ليس اله مع الادلة في 20 سطر بالعربي وترجمتها بالانجليزي )

    فهمت عليا اخي الكريم

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    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    بارك الله فيك أخي الفاضل

    نحن بالخدمة ولكن أخي الفاضل أنا لا يمكن أن أحاور شاب على البالتوك ولكن إن شئت أعطيك ما تريده من معلومات بشكل كتابي

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  • اطمع في مساعدتكم في اسلام شخص ارجوكم

    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
    الحكاية انه في شخص فلبيني مسيحي باقيلو شي بسيط ويدخل الاسلام
    ولكن ارجووووووووكم وقبلاتي على رأس كل منكم فقط لتساعدوني

    ابغا من ناس متخصصين في مقارنة الاديان او اي احد عندو علم كافي ان شاء الله
    الطريقة حيكون في اجتماع في روم خاصة عالبالتوك انا واخ ليا ولفليبيني

    وانا ما اتكلم انجليزي بطلاقة فا حاب اناقشو بطريقة نقاط
    مثلا
    النقطة الاولى اكلمو عن الوهية المسيح فا الشخص الي حيساعدني يكتبلو نقطة جيدة اكلم النصراني بها بالعربي تارة وبالانجليزي تارة اخرى ليسهل عليا الامر وانا اقترح نقاط عدة مثل الوهية المسيح وكتبة الاناجيل والشذوذ في الكتاب المقدس وما الى ذلك
    هذا بالنسبة للنصرانيات

    اما النقاط الي حكلمو عنها في الاسلاميات فهي الشبه الي يبغى يعرف عنها مثل الحجاب والارهاب في الاسلام

    ياريت تكون فكرتي واضحة
    يعني الي حيتكرم ويساعدني مشكورا يكتبلي نقطة ومن ثم الحوار عنها في 20 سطر يكفي بالعربي وبالانجليزي مع النصوص وكل الادلة

    بالله عليكم ساعدوني والله مرة محتاج المساعدة لانو الفلبيني حيسافر قريب وانا ما ابغاه يسافر الا وقد اعلن الشهادتين
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