We will discuss these points after you admit hijab and polygamy

Remember
We are not debating the differences between cultures, it’s between the religion aspects… understand?

But, again
Mention the evidence to each word you write….
Any saying without its evidence will be neglected..

With my regards

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Come on!!!!!

Again and again, let me respect your mind!!!!


1-Your evidence against hijab is not from the Bible, or your religion!!!!
The Bible ordered women to wear hijab and a secular Muslim doesn’t like hijab, so your evidence is the secular man’s?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If a Buddhist says “the cross is nothing”, and a secular Christian hates the cross,
So, the evidence of the cross annulment is the Buddhist’s opinion?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For sure not…

I need evidence from your Bible which forbids hijab or despises it.

2-Who is Shreif Hatatah to be Muslim evidence against hijab?!!!
He is just a secular writer not a religious one…
He is not considered as a person who we discuss his opinion….

The evidence must be considered by the religious scientists only, not a man in street!!!!
My evidence is from your Bible, isn’t it considered by your priests?


Debate is give and take
so
before talking about women’s rights and her way of worshipping and thinking,
answer my questions first….
and I promise you to answer your new ones...

Please answer them …. Don’t escape…
1- Was Jesus a pure God? Pure human? Or a mixture of both?
2- Why was he crucified?
Your answers should include the evidences from the Bible, Please….

I’m telling you yes
Because the problem is not in the degree of knowledge
The problem is that women mainly goes after her feelings not her mind
I have a friend who had a fight with her fiance during final master degree exam
What do you think she did?
She didn’t come to the exam and lost the whole year & then she didn’t complete with master
Ask yourself why?
She’s not using her mind but her heart
In the other hand I know a person who's mother died during his final exams and he gets a degree that allowed him to enter a medical college
And for me although I’m in my second year master degree but I always need my father & my brother to tell me how to act in many things in my life
I know from myself that I may use my heart 90% in every thing in my life & my mind as a 10 % in my life & that’s why I always need my dad & my brother to tell me what to do

Moreover women always have memory loss during pregnancy and this is a fact in medicine that every doctor knows

That’s why allah said in the noble quran

and get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her. The witnesses should not refuse when they are called on (For evidence).
surah 2 : 282

just search google and see that memory loss during pregnancy is a fact that you can't deny

https://www.essortment.com/all/problemspregnan_rrsl.htm

and now i wan't you tell me why bible treat women like that

Jesus himself in Revelation 14:4 considered women as dirt that defiles men



Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls: Exodus 21:7-8 "And in case a man should sell his daughter as a slave girl, she will not go out in the way that the slave men go out. If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master so that he doesn't designate her as a concubine but causes her to be redeemed, he will not be entitled to sell her to a foreign people in his treacherously dealing with her."

Daughters inherit nothing when there are sons: "If a man dies and leaves no son, turn his inheritance over to his daughter. (Numbers 27:8)"

If a woman tries to save her husband from a beating by grabbing the other man's private parts to lift him off her husband, then both her hands must get cut off: Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "And in case men struggle together (in a fight) with one another, and the wife of the one has come near to deliver her husband out of the striking one (to save her husband), and she has thrust out her hand and grabbed hold of his private (the other man's groin), she must then get both her hands cut off, and the eyes of the men must feel no sorrow."

where can i find justice in that

Birth of any female is a loss: Ecclesiasticus 22:3 "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss" (From the New Jerusalem Bible. It's a Roman Catholics Bible).

oh my God >>>>100% justice

Jesus considers women as dirt that defiles men
Revelation 14:4 "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb."

A Woman's Right to Education

1 Corinthians 14:34-35

"let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law, and if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for woman to speak in the church."

جزاكِ الله خيراً أختنا حفنة تراب على هذا الرد الرائع

أختي الكريمة...
أرى أن الشخص المحاوَر لا علم له ... وما هو إلا بغبغاء يردد ما يقال له
لقد ذكرت له عشرات الأدلة من الكتاب المقدس بعهديه على وجوب الحجاب ... بل وأرسلت له صور بعض النساء الاتي يعترفون بقدسيتهن ...
لكنه لم يُلقِ بالاً لأي دليل واحد مما ذكرته له ...
فهو لايستطيع إنكارها وفي نفس الوقت لا يجد في الكتاب المقدس ما ينصف رأيه ... بل يجد الكتاب المقدس يهدم كل ما يقوله هو على المرأة ...
ويثبت ما يقوله الإسلام!!!!!
فيعمد إلى الهروب بالحديث عن الفروق بين الثقافات وتجاربه الشخصية ...
لكن معايير الحكم بالتجارب الشخصية تميل إلى الإسقاط تارة .. والمحدودية تارة أخرى
لذلك طلبت منه أن تكون إجاباته من الكتاب المقدس وليست من غيره

كما أنه كلما عجز عن الرد إنتقل من شبهة إلى أخرى دون يثبت إقتناعه أو عجزه عن الرد ....
ولو تركناه هكذا لأمضينا معه شهورا نرد فقط على ما يلفق بالإسلام ...
لذلك آثرت أن يجيب هو أولاً على أهم معتقد لدى النصارى والذي بدوره يفتح باباً لإبطال معتقدٍ تلو الآخر !!!
وبذلك تكون المناظرة أكثر فاعلية .

وللمرة الثانية أسجل لكِ الشكر على ردك الرائع

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

الحمدلله و الصلاة و السلام على أشرف المرسلين و خاتم النبيين حبيبنا المصطفى عليه و على آله و أصحابه أفضل الصلاة و التسليم

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

أخي الفاضل Authentic Man

جزاك الله خيراً على ردودك المتميزة
واعتذر أخي الفاضل إن كررت معلومات فأنا لم أملك الوقت لقراءة كل الردود السابقة التي و صلت إلى أكثر من 50


جزاك الله خيراً
و نتمنى من الأخ ان يستجيب لطلب الحوار في المنتدى
وأظن ان معظمهم يحبون الجدل دون أن يملكوا أي أدلة إلا أفكار عقولهم

أختي الكريمة حفنة تراب
لا تعتذري أبدا ً
فإننا نتعاون جميعاً للوصول لهدف واحد وهو
الدفاع عن الإسلام
علاوة على ذلك
فهذه ليست مناظرة ثنائية ...
فمرحباً بكل من أراد أن يضيف أي رد, ولو كان بسيطا
فلعل رداً بسيطاً يعْلَق بقلب المحاوَر, ويثير فكره, ويكون هو بذرة الإيمان في قلبه

إلا أن ردكِ كافٍ ووافٍ
جزاكِ الله خيرا

Hay brother please stop running away
Your just changing the subject because you find that you can’t defend your religion
Although for every question we have an answer
Your saying that my talking with you through chat is not allowed and that’s wrong because God orderd us in the holy quran to do that & to help others find the truth way
so either you bring a prove for what you say from the holy quran or just don’t copy some human words


And see what the holy quran say about that
Surah 9. Repentance, Dispensation
71. The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practise regular charity, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise.

Surah 3. The Family Of 'Imran
110. Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah

Surah 3. The Family Of 'Imran
104. Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity.

Surah 16. The Bee
125. Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.

Women is just equal to man in the holy quran

the Qur'an says: "Verily, the Muslims (those who submit to Allah in Islam) men and women, the believers men and women (who believe in Islamic Monotheism), the men and the women who are obedient (to Allah), the men and women who are truthful (in their speech and deeds), the men and the women who are patient (in performing all the duties which Allah has ordered and in abstaining from all that Allah has forbidden), the men and the women who are humble (before their Lord -Allah), the men and the women who give Sadaqat, (i.e. Zakat, and alms, etc.), the men and the women who fast (the obligatory fasting during the month of Ramadan and the optional Nawafil fasting), the men and women who guard their chastity (from illegal sexual acts) and the men and women who remember Allah muchwith their hearts and tongues (while sitting, standing, lying, etc. for more than 300 times extra over the remembrance of Allak during the five compulsory congregational prayers or praying extra additional Nawafil prayers of night in the last part of night etc.) Allah has prepared for them forgiveness and a great reward (i.e. Paradise). [ Surah 33:35]

and in hadith The Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him) says, "Women are the sisters of men." [ Transmitted on the authority of Aisha by Ahmad (6/256); Abu Dawud (236); Al-Termithy (113); Al-Doram(1/195) and others.]

not as the bible women is considered as a dirt & she’s not allowed even to speak

Birth of any female is a loss: Ecclesiasticus 22:3 "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss" (From the New Jerusalem Bible. It's a Roman Catholics Bible).


1 Corinthians 14:34-35

"let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law, and if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for woman to speak in the church."