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امريكيه لديها بحث وتساؤلات عن المرأه المسلمه وحقوقها >ارجو مساعدتي ولكم جزيل الشكر

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  • امريكيه لديها بحث وتساؤلات عن المرأه المسلمه وحقوقها >ارجو مساعدتي ولكم جزيل الشكر

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله و بركاته
    جزى الله القائمين هلى هذا المنتدى خير الجزاء و جعلها في ميزان حسناتكم
    قابلت امرأه امريكي في احد الالعاب ثلاثية الابعاد( تشات )
    وهذه اللعبه تحتوي على مكه افتراضيه
    بمعنى مكان يحتوي على كعبه و الحرم المكي و الميقات ووو الخ
    بامكان الشخصيه الكرتونيه التي يحركها المستخدم من ان يتدرب على العمره او الحج - لا ادري ما اذا كنت حلال ام حرام -
    انا في الحقيقه رأيت ان " كل من هب و دب " بدأ يفتي و يتكلم عن الدين في تلك اللعبه .
    الامر الاخر ان اللعبه تحتوي على بعض وكثير من الاشياء الغير لائقه دينيا ولا فطريا .
    عموما كان هدفي من هذه اللعبه ان اتحدث عن الدين الاسلامي مع الاجانب المتواجدين
    حيث ان الاغلبيه العظمى لا تعرف الدين الاسلامي حقيقة.
    فارجو ان اجد لديكم اجابات مقنعه لبعض التساؤلات التي تواجهني هناك.

    هذه المرأه الامريكيه لديها بحث وتريد ان تسلمها لمدرستها عن المرأه المسلمه ووحقوقها وكيفية نظرة الرسول عليه الصلاة والسلام للمرأه والى ذلك من الاسئله وتريد الاجابات على تلك الاسئله قبل يوم الاربعاء المقبل.

    حقيقة من بعض الاسئله التي لم اجد اجابه مقنعه لدي
    هو شعوري حول الايه التي في سورة النساء " الرجال قوامون على النساء ..." الى اخر الايه الكريمه.

    اذا كانت لديكم قابليه للاجابه على الاسئله ومساعدتي في الرد بحجج قويه ومقنعه

    ارجو افادتي بذلك لبدأ كتابة اسئلتها ..

    اعتذر اذا لم اوفق في وضع الموضوع في القسم المناسب.

    اعتذر على الاطاله ,, وتقبلوا خالص تحياتي

  • #2
    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته..
    أهلا بكِ ومرحبا..

    اسمعي يا أخية ..
    والله إن المرأة غمرت برحمة الإسلام وفضله فوق ما كانت تتصور بالرغم من أن الإسلام أعطى الذكر ضعف الأنثى ـ فهي مرفهة ومنعمة أكثر من الرجل ، لأنها تشاركه في الإرث دون أن تتحمل تبعات ، فهي تأخذ ولا تعطي وتغنم ولا تغرم ، وتدخر المال دون أن تدفع شيئـًا من النفقات أو تشارك الرجل في تكاليف العيش ومتطلبات الحياة ، ولربما تقوم بتنمية مالها في حين أن ما ينفقه أخوها وفاءً بالالتزامات الشرعية قد يستغرق الجزء الأكبر من نصيبه في الميراث.
    كما يجب عليها ألا تخرج أو تسافر إلا بمحرم يحميها، ويصونها، ويحفظها..
    يعني رفاهية ودلال أكثر من هذا ما في
    لك الحمد والشكر يا رب..

    حقيقة من بعض الاسئله التي لم اجد اجابه مقنعه لدي
    هو شعوري حول الايه التي في سورة النساء " الرجال قوامون على النساء ..." الى اخر الايه الكريمه.
    يقول الله جل وعلا "الرجال قوامون على النساء بما فضل الله بعضهم على بعض وبما أنفقوا من أموالهم..."
    الرجال قائمون على أمر النساء بسبب الإنفاق والتوجيه، فالمهر يجب على الرجل لقدرته على الكسب ومهارته في معرفة دروب العيش، والمهر حق خالص للمرأة لا يشاركه فيها أحد من أوليائها، فلها البيع والهبة والتصرف فيه وفي كل ما تمتلكه بما تشاء..
    ولا بد من أن لكل جماعة رئيسا لقوله صلى الله عليه وسلم "إذا كنتم ثلاثة فأمروا أحدكم" فمن يا ترى يتولى أمر الأسرة ومسؤولياتها؟ هل المرأة أم الرجل أم أحد الأولاد؟
    لا بد أن يكون هناك رئيس يقوم على أمرها، وأي عاقل في الدنيا يقول بأن الرجل هو قائم الأسرة وزعيمها، عليه تعتمد بعد اعتمادها على الله جل وعلا، وإذا كانت المرأة تعمل فليس معنى هذا إلغاء القوامة، لأنها في حاجة إلى رجل يحميها ويدبر شئونها، ولا يجب عليها إنفاق لأنه على الرجل، فإن أعطت شيئا من مالها فيعتبر تبرعا، وهي غنية بغنى زوجها، وليس العكس، لأن نفقتها عليه،
    لهذه الأسباب، وغيرها كثير، كانت القوامة أي القيادة للرجل...
    وفوق هذا أمر الإسلام بحسن معاملة المرأة حيث قال صلى الله عليه وسلم: "إنما النساء شقائق الرجال" وقال عليه الصلاة والسلام: "استوصوا بالنساء خيرا" وقال أيضا "ما أكرمهن إلا كريم وما أهانهن إلا لئيم" ..

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    • #3
      اذا كانت لديكم قابليه للاجابه على الاسئله ومساعدتي في الرد بحجج قويه ومقنعه

      ارجو افادتي بذلك لبدأ كتابة اسئلتها ..
      من بعد إذن الإدارة ونيابة عنهم أقول سلي يا أخيا ما شئتِ وبفضل الله وبما فتح علينا نجيبك إن لم يكن في الأمر فتوى فلسنا من أهلها .

      وبارك الله لنا في الأخت زهراء على ما أجابت وبارك الله فيكِ على اهتمامك بهذا الأمر .

      حياكِ الله

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      • #4
        جزاكم الله الف خير على سرعة الاستجابه واعتذر على التأخر لانشغالي

        انا في الحقيقه لغتي الانجليزيه ليست عاليه جدا فأحببت انا اقوم بترجمة اجابتكم اذا امكنني ذلك

        في English Form


        بالنسبه لسؤالها الأول : Who is your favorite Islamic Historical figure?

        ماهي الشخصيه الاسلاميه المفضله لديك ؟

        اردت هنا ان اذكر شخصية النبي محمد صلى الله عليه و سلم بالاضافة الى السيدة عائشه و السيده خديجه رضي الله عنهما .
        السؤال الاخر : 7. What are your thoughts on the following?
        a. Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that God has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for God’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; God is All-high, All-Great. (Sura 4:34)

        ما رأيك في هذه الآيه :

        الرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُونَ عَلَى النِّسَاء بِمَا فَضَّلَ اللّهُ بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ وَبِمَا أَنفَقُواْ مِنْ أَمْوَالِهِمْ فَالصَّالِحَاتُ قَانِتَاتٌ حَافِظَاتٌ لِّلْغَيْبِ بِمَا حَفِظَ اللّهُ وَاللاَّتِي تَخَافُونَ نُشُوزَهُنَّ فَعِظُوهُنَّ وَاهْجُرُوهُنَّ فِي الْمَضَاجِعِ وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ فَإِنْ أَطَعْنَكُمْ فَلاَ تَبْغُواْ عَلَيْهِنَّ سَبِيلاً إِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ عَلِيًّا كَبِيرًا

        جزاكم الله خيرا ووفقكم لما يحبه الله ويرضاه ..

        تقبلوا تحياتي .

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        • #5
          انا في الحقيقه لغتي الانجليزيه ليست عاليه جدا فأحببت انا اقوم بترجمة اجابتكم اذا امكنني ذلك في English Form
          الإسلام هو أول من اعطى المرأة حقوقا لم تحصل عليها قبل الإسلام أبدا ولندع غير المسلمين يقولوا رأيهم ، مثل السيدة / كارين آرمسترونج خبيرة فى الشئون الاسلامية وهى شخصية معاصرة و يمكنك اعطاء هذا الرابط للسيدة الأمريكية لتقرأ ما فيه و هو باللغة الأنجليزية و يتحدث عن تحرير الاسلام للمرأة

          https://www.crescentlife.com/thisthat...n_in_islam.htm


          تجد شهادتها عن الفرق الهائل بين وضع المرأة قبل الاسلام و بعده و كيف انه أصبح لها حق الإرث و حق الشهادة فى وقت لم يكن فيه للمرأة أى وضع قانونى فى العالم كله.

          كما اعترفت السيدة آرمسترونج أنه لقرون عديدة بعد الرسول عليه الصلاة و السلام ظلت نساء المسلمين فى وضع اجتماعى أعلى و أفضل كثيرا من المرأة فى الدول المسيحية ، و ان المسلمين خلال العصور الوسطى كانوا يصدمون من الطريقة التى يعامل بها مسيحيو الغرب المرأة فى الدول المسيحية كما ان المسيحيين كانوا يشجبون المسلمين لاعطائهم حرية كبيرة للمرأة و فيما يلى مقتطف هذا الكلام كما ورد فى المقال :

          In fact, during the many centuries that followed Prophet
          Muhammad, women of the Islamic societies had a much higher social position than the women of Christendom. Karen Armstrong emphasizes that, during the Middle Ages;
          ... the Muslims were horrified to see the way Western Christians treated their women in the Crusader states, and Christian scholars denounced Islam for giving too much power to menials like slaves and women


          كما أشار المقال الى السيدة آنا كينج التى أسلمت و كان من ضمن تعليقاتها على المرأة ان الاسلام أعطاها حق العمل لحسابها و ان تبيع و تشترى بنفسها و ان يكون لها حقوق سياسية وكلها حقوق لم تحصل عليها المرأة الامريكية الامؤخرا.

          Islam first gave women their rights in a time when women were nothing but the property of men. Islam gave women the right to buy and sell on their own, own businesses and express her views politically. These were all basic rights which the American woman was not granted until relatively recently

          و بالنسبة الى السيدة آرمسترونج فقد ألفت بعض الكتب عن الاسلام

          وفى هذا الرابط من مقال فى النيويورك تايمز و يمكنك أيضا كتابته للسيدة الأمريكية لتقرأه فهو باللغة الانجليزية :

          https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/20/bo...oods.html?_r=1

          ملخص لبعض ما قالته فقد قالت ان الرسول دعا الى الله باخلاص و ليس عن تعصب قبلى و كان منهجه المصالحة و ليس الانتقام و لصالح الفقراء و الأيتام
          كما ان القرآن هو الذى فعل قوة المرأة فى المجتمع و هذا يعد مفاجأة لكثيرين كما انه اعطاها الحق فى التملك كما أنه حرر الفتيات الأيتام من الزواج القصرى من القائمين عليهم دون رغبتهم :

          He preached loyalty to God rather than tribe; reconciliation rather than retaliation; care for orphans and the poor; and in many ways, empowerment of women, which will be a surprise to some. The Koran gave women property rights and freed orphans from the obligation to marry their guardians: radical changes at a time when women were traded like camels
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          التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة believer; الساعة 25-04-2009, 23:44.

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          • #6

            اختي الفاضلة رقية
            بارك الله فيك.
            ان شاء الله هذه الروابط المدرجة ستدعم الامريكية في بحثها وتجعلها تعقد مقارنة بين وضعية المراة في قوانينهم الوضعية وملتها , وبين الاسلام عساها تهتدي بفضل الله.

            المرأة المسلمة **زوجة**
            https://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_...er_Husband.pdf
            الترجمة باللغة الانجليزية

            المراة في الاسلام بالنجليزي الجزء الاول:https://www.islamhouse.com/data/images/download.gif
            المراة في الاسلام الجزء الثاني:
            https://www.islamhouse.com/data/images/download.gif

            موفقة اختي بفضل الله.
            التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة ayaaya; الساعة 28-04-2009, 00:33.
            منتديات في خصاص الى دعمنا فلا نبخل عليها بعطائنا وبذلنا


            https://www.kalemasawaa.com/vb/


            https://www.islamswomen.net/vb/index.php


            https://versislam.01maroc.org/vb

            [glint]

            https://islamyatway.ahlamontada.net/forum.htm]

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            • #7
              أرجو منك أختنا أن تسأليها عن المرأة وحقوقها في الكتاب الذي تؤمن به؟ حتي تقارن بإمانه عن وضع المرأة في المسيحية والإسلام.. لا القوانين الوضعية. فلا تكن المقارنة بين ديننا الحق والقوانين الغربية الوضعية.. بل بين دين ودين..
              التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة أسد الإسلام; الساعة 28-04-2009, 00:58.

              الحمد لله على نعمة الإسلام

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              • #8
                المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة رقيه مشاهدة المشاركة
                السلام عليكم ورحمة الله و بركاته
                جزى الله القائمين هلى هذا المنتدى خير الجزاء و جعلها في ميزان حسناتكم
                قابلت امرأه امريكي في احد الالعاب ثلاثية الابعاد( تشات )
                وهذه اللعبه تحتوي على مكه افتراضيه
                بمعنى مكان يحتوي على كعبه و الحرم المكي و الميقات ووو الخ
                بامكان الشخصيه الكرتونيه التي يحركها المستخدم من ان يتدرب على العمره او الحج - لا ادري ما اذا كنت حلال ام حرام -
                انا في الحقيقه رأيت ان " كل من هب و دب " بدأ يفتي و يتكلم عن الدين في تلك اللعبه .
                الامر الاخر ان اللعبه تحتوي على بعض وكثير من الاشياء الغير لائقه دينيا ولا فطريا .
                عموما كان هدفي من هذه اللعبه ان اتحدث عن الدين الاسلامي مع الاجانب المتواجدين
                حيث ان الاغلبيه العظمى لا تعرف الدين الاسلامي حقيقة.
                فارجو ان اجد لديكم اجابات مقنعه لبعض التساؤلات التي تواجهني هناك.

                هذه المرأه الامريكيه لديها بحث وتريد ان تسلمها لمدرستها عن المرأه المسلمه ووحقوقها وكيفية نظرة الرسول عليه الصلاة والسلام للمرأه والى ذلك من الاسئله وتريد الاجابات على تلك الاسئله قبل يوم الاربعاء المقبل.

                حقيقة من بعض الاسئله التي لم اجد اجابه مقنعه لدي
                هو شعوري حول الايه التي في سورة النساء " الرجال قوامون على النساء ..." الى اخر الايه الكريمه.

                اذا كانت لديكم قابليه للاجابه على الاسئله ومساعدتي في الرد بحجج قويه ومقنعه

                ارجو افادتي بذلك لبدأ كتابة اسئلتها ..

                اعتذر اذا لم اوفق في وضع الموضوع في القسم المناسب.

                اعتذر على الاطاله ,, وتقبلوا خالص تحياتي
                السلام عليكم

                اختى الكريمة رقية
                تفضلى هذا الكتاب المرفق الذى كنت ترجمته لمنتديات الجامع فى العام 2003
                وكان المقال الاصلى باللغة العربية كتبه علاء ابو بكر

                ارجو ان ينفعك والا اكون قد تأخرت كثيرا على اجابة طلبك
                الملفات المرفقة

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                • #9
                  أو من هنا حيث قامت اخت اخرى بالتعديل وتنسيق الترجمة

                  https://www.fileflyer.com/view/WhPqYAc

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                  • #10
                    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
                    هناك مشكل في الترجمة. إذا قرأنا النص بالإنجليزية نفهم شيء. وإذا قرأنا الآية مدعمين بالتفسير نفهم شيئا آخر.
                    في الغرب، الرجل والمرأة يعملان. الرجل ينفق والمرأة تنفق. شرط القوامة يسقط.
                    إذا كان الرجل هو القائم على المصروف والتدبير؛ يصرف على الزوجة، يطعمها، يكسيها، يداويها... وإذا نشزت المرأة بعدئذ يأتي الوعظ ثم الهجر ثم الضرب.
                    ونحن نتساءل. هل يحق للمرأة النشوز إذا أدى الرجل جميع واجباته؟ هل من المعقول ذلك؟
                    القرآن يقدم حلولا إذا ما خرقت المرأة حق الرجل في الطاعة.
                    والآية التي تأتي بعدها
                    وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ شِقَاقَ بَيْنِهِمَا فَابْعَثُوا حَكَمًا مِنْ أَهْلِهِ وَحَكَمًا مِنْ أَهْلِهَا إِنْ يُرِيدَا إِصْلَاحًا يُوَفِّقِ اللَّهُ بَيْنَهُمَا ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا خَبِيرًا (35)
                    تدل على مدى عدالة الإسلام. وهو شيء يمارس في المجتمعات الغربية: الالتجاء الى المحاكم.
                    الإسلام لا يشجع ماهو يفرق بين الزوجين بل بالعكس، هناك حرص كبير على سلامة "الرباط" بين الزوجين.
                    في المجتمع الغربي، نسمع حسب ما يأتيه الإعلام أن الرجل يضرب زوجته وهذا خلل حسب ما سبق.
                    للمزيد من التفاصيل، علينا أن نلتجأ إلى الفقيه أوالمشرع. وبتعبير أدق، لا يجب أن نتناول الأيات بسهولة. الحكم الفقهي يلزمه علماء مسلمون. هذا الحكم الفقهي يساعد في تنقيح التشريع. وبطبيعة الحال، التشريع الإسلامي مستمد من القرآن، الحديث، الرأي...
                    المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة محمد السوهاجي مشاهدة المشاركة
                    أرجو منك أختنا أن تسأليها عن المرأة وحقوقها في الكتاب الذي تؤمن به؟ حتي تقارن بإمانه عن وضع المرأة في المسيحية والإسلام.. لا القوانين الوضعية. فلا تكن المقارنة بين ديننا الحق والقوانين الغربية الوضعية.. بل بين دين ودين..
                    لماذا؟

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                    • #11
                      Do Muslims Beat Their Wives?

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                      Written by From Yusuf Estes collection
                      Sunday, 08 February 2009
                      "Do Muslims Beat Their Wives?"
                      Special Update: Islam Forbids All Oppression

                      - The Quran orders men to "Protect and Defend - ALL WOMEN" the word often mistranslated as "beat lightly" is better understood as . . .

                      Written by former Christian convert to Islam, Yusuf Estes - to bring light on this most important subject.

                      the English term "percuss" (an action doctors use while examining patients upper torso - light tapping while listening to their backs or chests).
                      (ref: explanation of surah An-Nisa, verse 34)


                      So many questions about treatment of women in Islam - and what Muslim men do with their wives.


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                      Question:

                      What about the treatement of the women in Islam. Why does the Quran tell men to "wadhribu hunna" - "Does this mean to "beat their wives"? (chapter 4, verse 34)

                      Answer: No, it does not. (read this answer slowly and carefully)

                      Statement - before we begin with this one: The prophet of Allah, Muhammad, peace be upon him, tells us Allah has said,
                      "Before the creation of the universe, I forbid that I would oppress and I hate when anyone oppresses."

                      Answer:

                      Let us consider a very basic understanding of the advent of Islam and the reason for it to be revealed in the time and place where it came. Here is a brief, yet clear statement of purpose with the coming of Islam:

                      Treatment in Relationships - in Islam, it is all about treatment; how you treat your Lord; how you treat His messenger; how you treat yourself; how you treat your family; how you treat others; how you treat your enviornment - it is always about treatement.

                      We must keep in mind the condition of the people who were without the guidance of Almighty God and how they had strayed far away from the message that came with Adam, Abraham, Moses and other great prophets, peace be upon them all.
                      The ignorant and selfish mentality the prevailed throughout the Arab lands did not allow women even the most basic of rights and the treatment of women was abhorent. Women were being treated as property, even less than the status of livestock. They were offered in trade or taken in marriage without consent or consideration for their feelings at all. The customs of the people at the time were far away from anything we might imagine today.

                      Statements in the Quran pertaining to the treatment of the women came to improve their condition and to raise their status to a level of balance alongside of men. Islam came to change the hearts of the people and show them the proper way to worship Allah and to interact with each other.

                      Now let us review the proper method of providing answers for Islam in general.

                      First we would say, "Thank you for asking about Islam. It is our committment to try our best to provide answers to questions to the best of our ability. However, sometimes we come across questions for which we do not have answers. In this case we will refer you to others who may be able to provide you with proper answers."

                      Second, we remind ourselves and the one questioning Islam to be aware, we as Muslims, must never lie about anything, especially our religion.

                      Third, we do have the original text of the Quran and the preserved teachings of Muhammad, peace be upon him. This enables us to verify exactly what was said, intended and taught by Muhammad, peace be upon him, as being the religion of Islam.

                      Fourth, I would like to remind myself and all who read this in the future that not all questions are purely questions. Some contain statements and implications, that may or may not be true.

                      Finally, it is important to keep in mind anytime we discover something in the answers to actually be better than what we already have, we should be committed to change our position and accept that which is true over that which is false and take that which is better for that which is inferior.

                      After taking all of the above into consideration, if we find that the answer to this question provides us with a better approach to understanding what Almighty God has provided us with as a way of life on this earth and in the Next Life, we should then make the logical decsion to begin to worship Him on His terms.

                      Having said that, let us now look to the particular verse in question in the original text (Arabic), followed by the phonetic sounds in Latin letters and then finally, followed by a translation of the meaning to the English language by experts in both Arabic and in Quranic meanings.

                      Transliteration
                      Ar-rejalu qawwa muna 'alan-nisa'a bima fadhdhallahu ba'dhahum 'ala bi'dhi wa bima anfaqu min amwalihim. Fas-saliHatu qaintat HafaTHatul-lilghaybi bimaa HafiTHal-lahu, wal-lati takhaafuna nushuza hunna fa'iTHuu hunnaa wa hjuruu hunna fiil-lmadhaa ji'i wadhribu hunna. Faa'in aTa'nakum flaa tabghuu 'alayhinna sabiilan. Innal-laha kaana 'aliyaan kabiira(n).

                      One Explanation (tafsir) given of this surahc (chapter 4:34) according to some scholars is:
                      “Men are the support of women as God gives some more means than others, and because they spend of their wealth (to provide for them). So women who are virtuous are obedient to God and guard the hidden as God has guarded it. As for women who are averse in behavior, talk to them suasively, leave them alone in bed and tap them (like a doctor would tap a patient - lightly), if they open out to you, do not seek an excuse for blaming them. Surely God is sublime and great.”

                      Meaning of the Words
                      For the three words fa'izu, wahjaru, and wadribu in the original, translated here 'talk to them suasively,' 'leave them alone (in bed - fi'l-madage'),' and tap lightly (percuss them), respectively,

                      Fa'izu (to use persuasive speech or admonishment)
                      Fa'izu, implies the first step should be to make clear to them using straight talk, the position they are in and what is required to comply with the teaching of Islam. This approach may be repeated until it is established she has understood and is willing to comply and come back into line with the proper expected of a Muslim woman. (comentary provided by Yusuf Estes)

                      Hajara - Wahjaru (do not touch or moleste them)
                      Hajara, he says, means to separate body from body, and points out that the expression wahjaru hunna metaphorically means to refrain from touching or molesting them. Zamakhshari is more explicit in his Kshshaf when he says, 'do not get inside their blankets.'

                      Daraba (tap lightly as 'percuss', not to beat)
                      daraba lightly tap them (women).' This view is strengthened by the Prophet's authentic hadith found in a number of authorities, including Bukhari and Muslim:

                      "Could any of you beat your wife as he would a slave, and then lie with her in the evening?"
                      There are other traditions in Abu Da'ud, Nasa'i, Ibn Majah, Ahmad bin Hanbal and others, to the effect that he forbade the beating of any woman, saying: "Never beat God's handmaidens."

                      Source:
                      Al-Qur'an: a contemporary translation by Ahmed Ali, Princeton University Press, 1988; pp78-79

                      In the past, some translators of this verse have mistakeningly used the word "beat" to represent the word "dhaaraba" in Arabic. This is not the opinion of all scholars especially Raghib and Zamakhshari as mentioned above and those who are well grounded in both Islam understanding and the English language.

                      Quran: (Surah An-Nisaa' [The Women] 4:34)
                      Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend from their means (to support the women). Therefore the righteous women are devout and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property, etc.). As to those women on whose part you see ill*conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, go back to them (in intimacy), if they return to obedience and do not seek any means of annoyance against them. Certainly, Allah is Most High, Most Great.

                      Other translators have offered words such as, "tap" and "pat" to represent a physical type of admonisment. While definitely coming closer to what might be acceptable in many circles than such expressions as "hit" or "beat", this still does not properly demonstrate the position and usage of such terms in relation to the first of the verse and the connection to the following passage, wherein the clear instructions deal with the women who do not come into compliance. Therefore, it likely be considered to mean: "tap lightly as a doctor would examine a patient".

                      And Allah is the All-Knower. (commentary from Yusuf Estes)

                      We understand from this some of the translations are not properly representing the spirit of the meaning. Therefore, they cannot be considered to be the representation of what has been intended by Almighty God.

                      Now we can properly understand that Almighty God has commanded the men to provide for the women and allow them to keep all of their wealth, inheritance and income without demanding anything from them for support and maintenance. Additionally, if she should be guilty of lewd or indecent conduct, the husband is told to first, admonish her and then she should cease this lewdness. However, if she should continue in this indecency, then he should no longer share the bed with her, and this would continue for a period of time. Finally, if she would repent then he would take up sharing the bed with her again.

                      Dr. Jamal Badawi (St. Mary's University, Nova Scotia) is of the opinion these (three stages) are necessary steps prior to divorce. Instead of a man saying, "I divorce you" three times in a row, he should follow this procedure before acting hastily and thereby doing something unwise and displeasing to Allah. The first step would be as mentioned above, to give her a "good talking to" and then if she continued in such unpleasing behavior, to leave the bed (not have intercourse with her) for a period of time and then finally, the last straw would be to "pat" her on the arm (as you would stroke a sheep or animal) to signify to her this is the final straw and then if she still persisted in her bad way, he could divorce her.

                      Regardless of the various positions and opinions, there is no permission established through the teachings of the Quran or the Sunnah (way) of Muhammad, peace be upon him, wherein one person could "beat" another person at their own discretion.

                      Any translations of the Quran indicating women can be beaten or abused by men is totally out of touch with the message of Islam from the rest of the Quran and the teachings of Muhammad, peace be upon him.

                      And Allah is All Knowing of the meanings of His ayahs (verses in Quran).

                      * percuss v.t. strike, tap, especially part of body in medical diagnosis.

                      The only form of "strking" allowed in Islam is: "Percuss: a light tap, similar to that used in examining patients."
                      Meaning of "percuss" - a striking or tapping of the body done by an examiner while diagnosing a patient; a type of tapping done for examination reasons.

                      The following instructions are provided for making medical examinations using the technique of "percuss":
                      "Method Of Examination Using Percuss"

                      Author: A. Chandrasekhar Taken from Loyola Medial Education Website [click]


                      Percuss the chest all around. Stand back, have the patient cross arms to shoulder. This maneuver will wing the scapula and expose the posterior thorax. Then, have the patient keep their hands over head and percuss axilla. Then move to the front and percuss anterior chest , clavicles and supraclavicular space.

                      Percuss the lung fields, alternating, from top to bottom and comparing sides.

                      Percuss over the intercostal space and note the resonance and the feel of percussion.
                      Keep the middle finger firmly over the chest wall along intercostal space and tap chest over distal interphalangeal joint with middle finger of the opposite hand.
                      The movement of tapping should come from the wrist.
                      Tap 2-3 times in a row.
                      Do not leave the percussing finger on chest , otherwise you will dampen the sound.
                      Stand on one side and with your flat of hand, tap the chest from top to bottom and from side to side to compare. I use this method as a screening step to identify the area of abnormality.

                      NOTE: The statements regarding the type of "tapping" using the word "percuss" are from Loyola Medial Education website
                      أهم نقطة لإلتقائنا أنا وأنت هي المسيح ..
                      هل قال المسيح عن نفسه أنه هو الله ؟
                      هل قال أنا الأقنوم الثاني ؟
                      هل قال أنا ناسوت ولاهوت؟
                      هل قال أن الله ثالوث ؟
                      هل قال أن الله أقانيم ؟
                      هل قال أن الروح القدس إله ؟
                      هل قال أعبدوني فأنا الله ولا إله غيري ؟
                      هل قال أني سأصلب لأخلص البشرية من الذنوب والخطايا؟
                      هل ذكر خطيئة آدم المزعومة مرة واحدة ؟

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                      • #12
                        https://www.islamnewsroom.com/content/view/665/52/
                        أهم نقطة لإلتقائنا أنا وأنت هي المسيح ..
                        هل قال المسيح عن نفسه أنه هو الله ؟
                        هل قال أنا الأقنوم الثاني ؟
                        هل قال أنا ناسوت ولاهوت؟
                        هل قال أن الله ثالوث ؟
                        هل قال أن الله أقانيم ؟
                        هل قال أن الروح القدس إله ؟
                        هل قال أعبدوني فأنا الله ولا إله غيري ؟
                        هل قال أني سأصلب لأخلص البشرية من الذنوب والخطايا؟
                        هل ذكر خطيئة آدم المزعومة مرة واحدة ؟

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                        • #13
                          Written by www.Sukuk.net (Arab News)
                          Saturday, 14 March 2009
                          Why is everyone talking about Islams Women?
                          What is the Real Story - behind the headlines?
                          * Do Muslims say Eve is responsible for the sin of Adam?
                          * Is there a curse of God on women in child birth?
                          * Does Islam tell men to oppress and beat their women?
                          * Can men force women to marry them?
                          * Are Muslim girls married against their will?
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                          أهم نقطة لإلتقائنا أنا وأنت هي المسيح ..
                          هل قال المسيح عن نفسه أنه هو الله ؟
                          هل قال أنا الأقنوم الثاني ؟
                          هل قال أنا ناسوت ولاهوت؟
                          هل قال أن الله ثالوث ؟
                          هل قال أن الله أقانيم ؟
                          هل قال أن الروح القدس إله ؟
                          هل قال أعبدوني فأنا الله ولا إله غيري ؟
                          هل قال أني سأصلب لأخلص البشرية من الذنوب والخطايا؟
                          هل ذكر خطيئة آدم المزعومة مرة واحدة ؟

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                          • #14
                            Written by www.Sukuk.net (Arab News)

                            "Man can marry four - why not women marry four?"
                            Date: Tuesday, March 02 @ 1559 HST
                            Topic: Harsh Questions asked by Non-Muslims
                            From: Islam Always .com


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                            Bismillah Rahman Raheem
                            RE: Question - "Islam gives man permission to marry four wives. Why can't a woman have four husbands?


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                            Answer - Al Hamdulilah, was-salat was-salam ala rasoolullah. Allahu 'Alim.
                            (It is Allah who has All Knowledge).

                            Rights and Limits
                            First of all, it is important for us to keep in mind that Islam came to establish two very important fundamentals for human beings:
                            Rights and Limits.

                            Everyone and everything has certain rights given to it by the Creator and Sustainer of the universe (Allah). At the same time, each creation has its own limitations established by Allah.

                            First Right - Allah has the right to be worshipped without making partners from what He has created. Direct worship to Him, alone.

                            Second Right - Prophet's right to be followed according to his treaching and commandments.

                            Third Right - Parents rights to be honored and cared for, with special emphasis on the mother first.

                            Fourth Right - Wives and Husbands have rights on each other.

                            Conditions 1,400 Years Ago
                            Now let us do some basic research here. We begin by looking into the condition of the women in various societies at the time 1,400 years ago when Allah revealed the Quran to Muhammad, peace be upon him.

                            Pagan Arabs - Burying Girls Alive
                            During that time the pagan Arab men used to bury their newborn daughters alive in the sand, out of shame for having something so low and disgusting like a girl instead of a son. Women were treated horribly and with utter disgust.

                            Men could marry as many as they liked and very often they owned women like cattle or sheep. There were no laws to protect the women and they had no rights at all.

                            Christians - Arguing If Women Had Souls
                            Christians at that time were holding council meetings to determine whether or not a woman even had a soul. The church blamed "Eve" the mother of all humans after Adam, peace be upon him, for the "original sin" and damned her and her seed for what she had done.

                            Priests - Best Men - Forbidden Marriage - To Any Women
                            Priests, bishops, cardnels and even the Pope are the very best of the Catholic men within the church. Yet the church still forbids their clergymen the chance for marriage and families. This unnatural situation has caused very serious ramifications throughout the society around the world.

                            Nuns - Best Women - No Marriage - No Children
                            Nuns are the very best of the Catholic women. They cover themselves in proper attire much the same way as the Muslim women. Yet, they are never allowed to marry or have children throughout their lives. This unnatural condition has caused untold number of disgraceful and disgusting practices within the very church itself.

                            If Only Bad People Have Children - What About Tomorrow?
                            We must ask the question, "If the very best of the men and the very best of the women are not allowed to marry or have children - does this mean only the worst of the people are the ones allowed to reproduce and populate the world?" - And where will that leave us tomorrow?

                            Jews - Blame Women and Curse Women
                            The Jews blamed women for the "original sin" and as such they were treated with disgust. A woman's monthly cycle was considered by the Old Testament of the Bible to be a "curse from God" for her inequities. Her child bearing pains were also a 'punishment from God' for her bringing man down from heaven.

                            Islam - No Blame On Women For Evil
                            Islam does not blame Eve for Adam's sin. Each of them accepted their own mistake and repented to Allah, and asked Allah to forgive them and Allah did forgive them.

                            Now before going any further, please read surah An Nisa (chapter 4 in the Quran) - all the way through, in order to better understand what is actually being said about women, men and marriage.

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                            Now let us think about the verses. Do you believe that Allah Knows what He created and He has revealed the perfect 'deen'? Do you know the condition of the people at the time the order came to restrict the number of wives? (Restricted to be only four)

                            Now read the verse about having more than one wife, very carefully. [4:3]

                            What does it say? And what do you understand from it?

                            Now read the ayah (verse) that forbids men to marry women who are already married. [4:24].

                            Now read from An Nisa (Chapter 4) about the role of men and women. [4:34]

                            Man Supports And Protects Women
                            Do you understand that one must take on the role of supporter, protector, provider, custodian and servant to the family (man's role)?

                            Woman Gives Birth - Raises Children

                            One must take on the role of carrying the child and delivering it and then feeding it and raising it to become a true servant of Allah (woman's role).

                            Not Equal - But Treated Fairly In Justice
                            Men and women are not the same nor are they "equal" as some folks would have us believe. Whatever is on one side of an 'equals' sign must be exactly the same as what is on the other side without any difference in value, only in the way that it is expressed. How then could we say that a man, who is unable to conceive or give birth and then breast feed a baby is the equal to a woman who can?

                            Equal In Faith And Actions
                            They are equal in their beliefs and good deeds of course. But still they are not the same as each other. Each one must fulfill their role as humans.

                            Children's Rights Protected
                            Islam is also very much about rights. Children also have rights in Islam. When a man dies his wealth is left to his family. How could the court know who to give the wealth of a man, if he was one of several husbands to a woman? How would a child know who his father was? No society ever supported the concept of a woman being married to two or more men at the same time.

                            Women's Right - Best Treatment
                            Almost every society supported the concept of a man having more than one woman. Yet, they did not limit the number nor did they provide the protection and maintenance that Islam insists on for each one. Islam came to set things straight. Women were given rights. Men were strictly ordered to treat their women with the very best of treatment.

                            Limit - Number in Marriage
                            When the verse was revealed the companions of Muhammad, peace be upon him, did not run out with the attitude that they were going to get four wives all of a sudden. Some of them already had much more than that and these men had to divorce their wives, if they had more than four. So this was not an order to go out and get four wives. It was an order to begin limitations. And the first limitation was; No more than four.

                            Limit - Equal Maintenance and Treatment
                            Second, the limitation of equal treatment for all of them. How could a man keep more than one wife unless he was exceedingly wealthy and/or exceedingly strong and virile?

                            Next, the limitation very clearly states; ".. but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them) then only one ..."

                            Muslims Today - Most Monogamous
                            Step by step, the men of Islam have come to be known today as the most monogamous of all men on earth (we only have one wife). Check for yourself and see. In the majority of all the Muslim homes on earth, a man gets married once, to one woman and then he stays married to her until the death of either himself or his wife.

                            Woman's Right To Choose Any Husband She Likes -
                            Even If He Is Already Married
                            One very important point that is often overlooked by modern society is the right that Islam gave to the women that it does not give to the man. A man is limited to marry only from the woman who is not already married. Obviously, this provides rights for the children and provides for them from inheritance from the father. But Islam also permits the women to marry a man who is already married to protect her in a society where the number of women outnumbers the population of men. Additionally, the woman has a large selection of men to choose from. In fact, she has the right to choose from any man in the community as long as he does not already have four wives. She also has the opportunity to see how the other wife was being treated and go into a marriage knowing exactly what to expect from her husband. After all, he must treat her in the same way as he is treating the other wife.

                            Women Need Husbands - Allah Provided the Answer
                            The prophet, peace be upon him, predicted that in the Last Days the women would outnumber the men to a great extent. Today we are seeing this become a reality all over the world. Allah has already provided for us for this occasion. After all, He is the One who makes it all happen and He already knew that many women would come into Islam in these days. He also knew many of the Muslim men would be killed or die at an early age, just as it is happening these days. These women all need husbands. Allah has given us the solution to all of life's problems.

                            Women's Right to Vote - 1,400 Years Ago
                            We might add that Islam also gave the women full status as citizens over 1,400 years ago by giving her to right to speak and vote the same as anyone else. American women had to take their cause to the streets with "Women's Suffrage" and were not granted the right to vote until just ninety years ago.

                            Women Keep Their Identity - And Their Names
                            Additionally, Islam protected women's rights to keep their identity and they were not considered property of some man. As such, they were no longer forced to change their last names to be that of their husbands. This is still the practice of Muslim women today just as it was fourteen hundred years ago.

                            Women Keep Their Property And Earnings - Men Must Share
                            Yet, at the same time the western society is so concerned about the way Islam demands that a couple be married, the man actually must work instead of the woman; the woman owns her own property without giving anything for the support of the house or the child; a child has the right to his or her own mother raising them instead of a baby sitter or day care; father must support his children; divorce is hated; and marriage is sanctified.

                            West Can't Tolerate Man And Woman - In Marriage
                            It is strange isn't it, a society like America, has no problem accepting sex without marriage; homosexuality; same sex marriages; sex without responsibility; children without fathers; and divorces are more common place than the measles or chicken pox. Yet, there is no tolerance for marriage between a man and a woman if it is not on their terms.

                            What Needs to Be Re-evaluated?
                            Compare the two for yourself and see which one needs correction.

                            We will be waiting to hear from you. May Allah Bless you all and increase you in all that is good, ameen.


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                            Jazakumallahu khairan was salam alaykum,

                            Yusuf Estes
                            National Muslim Chaplain
                            https://www.islamtomorrow.com/

                            For information on how priests and preachers are coming to Islam: www.IslamTomorrow.com/yusuf/
                            أهم نقطة لإلتقائنا أنا وأنت هي المسيح ..
                            هل قال المسيح عن نفسه أنه هو الله ؟
                            هل قال أنا الأقنوم الثاني ؟
                            هل قال أنا ناسوت ولاهوت؟
                            هل قال أن الله ثالوث ؟
                            هل قال أن الله أقانيم ؟
                            هل قال أن الروح القدس إله ؟
                            هل قال أعبدوني فأنا الله ولا إله غيري ؟
                            هل قال أني سأصلب لأخلص البشرية من الذنوب والخطايا؟
                            هل ذكر خطيئة آدم المزعومة مرة واحدة ؟

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                            • #15
                              جزاكم الله جميعا الف خير ونفع بكم الاسلام و المسلمين
                              واسال الله ان يكون عملكم خالصا لوجهه الكريم .
                              اعتذر عن التأخر و ذلك لانشاغلي في العمل و الدراسه .
                              وفقني الله و ايا كم

                              " من لا يشكر الناس لا يشكر الله "

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