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  • #16
    السلام عليكم

    [QUOTE]
    المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة الفير كلاي مشاهدة المشاركة
    اه احنا بتنين ومش خالصين ...

    طيب انا شو زنبي اخي الفيركلاي حزبك قام بعملية انقلاب عليك هههههههههههه
    خوفا على المرتب
    اللهم اغفر لأبي وأمي وارحمهما كما ربياني صغيرا

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    • #17
      طيب انا شو زنبي اخي الفيركلاي حزبك قام بعملية انقلاب عليك
      والله قولتك .. صالح أخد الراتب وصار يكتب في قسم المطابخ والأكل والشرب واسلام صار يكتب عن حقوق المرأة
      وانا بقيت كالسيف فردا يالله خيرها في غيرها بحاول اكون جيش جديد .

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      • #18
        السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته:

        احترت المكان مخصص للإنجليزية و الموضوع صار بين الإنجليزية و العربية و ين مكانه المفروض!!!

        ronya والفير كلاي : أكيد , يشرفني أكون في هالمنتدى .. شكرا و كثر الله من أمثالكم

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        • #19
          [QUOTE=ronya;87718]


          طيب انا شو زنبي اخي الفيركلاي حزبك قام بعملية انقلاب عليك هههههههههههه
          خوفا على المرتب
          ههههههههههههههههههه
          كأني سمعت اسم مرتب
          لَوْ أَنزَلْنَا هَذَا الْقُرْآنَ عَلَى جَبَلٍ لَّرَأَيْتَهُ خَاشِعاً مُّتَصَدِّعاً مِّنْ خَشْيَةِ اللَّهِ وَتِلْكَ الْأَمْثَالُ نَضْرِبُهَا لِلنَّاسِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ "الحشر 21-"

          القرآن الكريم


          متى27 :6 فاخذ رؤساء الكهنة الفضة وقالوا لا يحل ان نلقيها في الخزانة لانها ثمن دم.

          أَفَتُؤْمِنُونَ بِبَعْضِ الْكِتَابِ وَتَكْفُرُونَ بِبَعْضٍ فَمَا جَزَاءُ مَنْ يَفْعَلُ ذَلِكَ مِنْكُمْ إِلَّا خِزْيٌ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا وَيَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يُرَدُّونَ إِلَى أَشَدِّ الْعَذَابِ وَمَا اللَّهُ بِغَافِلٍ عَمَّا تَعْمَلُونَ

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          • #20
            المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة طالبة علم مشاهدة المشاركة
            Aslamu Alikum

            Dear Members Read this please :

            while in Islam Millions of Muslims Although there are many sects too ,, All of them have Holy Quran.. the same one from over 1400years old
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            So what... Sunni's and Shiites kill each other every day. Does the Quran tell them to do this? No. It tells them not to do this. Muslims don't listen to the quran unless they want to. Just like Christians with the bible. What does it matter if they all use the same book when they don't all interpret it the same way?

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            And argue not with the people of "
            the ******ure (Jews and Christians), unless it be in (a way) that is better (with good words and in good manner, inviting them to Islâmic Monotheism with His Verses), except with such of them as do wrong; and say (to them): "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our Ilâh (God) and your Ilâh (God) is One (i.e. Allâh), and to Him we have submitted (as Muslims)."

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            Allah may tell you he is the god of Muslims and Christians. But the Christian God tells us that He is not the God of Muslims. He tells us that if anyone comes preaching anyone other than the Christ, let him be acursed. Muslims may teach of Jesus the prophet but they deny that He is The Christ. They deny that Jesus Christ is God. Jesus is God. That's what the bible teaches. Does the Quran teach this? Didn't think so.

            SORRY ,BUT WHAT CAN WE REPLAY
            IN THIS CASE (THEY SAID ABOUT THE WARS BETWEEN Sunni's and Shiites ..........ect

            please help me fastly
            Salam alikom my dear sister
            As your post in English so am going to assume that u are discussing this topic with non Muslims
            A lot of time non Muslims come to us asking us harsh questions about Islam like:
            Why u Muslims are terrorist?
            Why u worship black box in a desert?
            Why u are killing each other in Iraq?


            Keep in mind that their harsh way in asking their question because of what they hear in their media which in most cases is FALSE

            So make your respose is a smile and say Thank you for asking me about my religion

            keep in mind to actually tell the people the message as soon as you can. After all, you do not know how long the person will stand in front of you. Simply tell them, "There really is only One God and He Alone is the only one deserving to be worshipped."

            Tell them what The word Islam mean in Arabic(please don’t say peace)
            What the word Muslim mean in Arabic
            What is the word Allah mean in Arabic
            Ask them for their purpose of life and why they are here?

            There is a lot of question they have the only answer is in our religion

            Another very important point which most of us forget about is we feel so much arrogant to say "I don’t know"
            When ever some one ask u a question u don’t know its answer or a question which u are not sure of its answer please tell him this out loud "I DON’T KNOW"
            Tell him in my religion lying is totally forbidden especially when it come to our religion so let me ask and get u back with the answer inshaa Allah

            I have to tell you this before giving u the answer, because u will be amazed of how much trust and respect this person is going to show to u if followed this way of dawah

            You said: So what... Sunni's and Shiites kill each other every day. Does the Quran tell them to do this? No. It tells them not to do this. Muslims don't listen to the quran unless they want to. Just like Christians with the bible.

            I am absolutely agree with you, killing each other was never Islam
            What is going now in Iraq is something really sad, actually I feel so bad to call someone who kill innocent ppl or bombing homes and masjeds A MUSLIM actually I feel so bad to call him a human
            This was never the way of Prophet Muhammad peace and blessing be upon him
            But to be more honest with ourselves this is not the whole picture
            There is ppl who are planning for this fitnah(trial) between sunni and shia.

            It's easier for USA to argue MUSLIMS are killing one another and WE HAVE TO STAY vs. Muslims are getting along and there is no longer any need for us in IRAQ.
            Here is my proof ,you will enjoy reading it

            Troops free SAS men from jail
            https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html


            You said: . What does it matter if they all use the same book when they don't all interpret it the same way?

            Well,all of them use the same book because Allah promised to preserve this book….using different interpretation also something written in the Quran: He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.(3-7)

            Remember this was prophet Muhammad prophecy that his ummah is going to be divided into sections

            You posted a verse of Quran: And argue not with the people of "
            the ******ure (Jews and Christians), unless it be in (a way) that is better (with good words and in good manner, inviting them to Islâmic Monotheism with His Verses), except with such of them as do wrong; and say (to them): "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our Ilâh (God) and your Ilâh (God) is One (i.e. Allâh), and to Him we have submitted (as Muslims)."

            My comment: If you followed this verse you will see by your eyes how can someone hate Islam totally changed to LOVE Islam

            Quote:Allah may tell you he is the god of Muslims and Christians. But the Christian God tells us that He is not the God of Muslims. He tells us that if anyone comes preaching anyone other than the Christ, let him be accursed

            My sister every one have his believes and u should respect her believes if u want her to respect yours…Allah is the one who create every thing and he is the only God for all the creations ,If she think other wise so she have her believes and we have ours.
            Do not ever think that u can guide ppl, Allah is the one who guide not you ,so all u can do is deliver the message of Islam then whether they accept it or not this is not your job.

            Quote: Muslims may teach of Jesus the prophet but they deny that He is The Christ. They deny that Jesus Christ is God. Jesus is God. That's what the bible teaches. Does the Quran teach this? Didn't think so.

            Yes we don’t think he is God or son of God and YES we believe that he is a prophet
            Tell her what Islam say about prophet jesus peace be upon him.

            No other religion in the world respects and dignifies Jesus as Islam does. The Qur'an confirms his virgin birth (a chapter of the Qur'an is entitled "Mary"), and Mary is considered to have been one of the purest women in all creation. The Qur'an describes Jesus' birth[Read Quran 3:42-47]

            Muslims believe that Jesus was born immaculately, and through the same power which had brought Eve to life and Adam into being without a father or a mother.[Quran 3:57]

            Prophet Muhammad emphasized the importance of Jesus by saying:
            "Whoever believes there is no god but Allah, alone without partner, that Muhammad is His messenger, that Jesus is a servant and messenger of God, His word breathed into Mary and a spirit emanating from Him, and that Paradise and Hell are true, shall be received by God into Heaven. [Bukhari]
            التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة أمة الله85; الساعة 14-02-2007, 16:12.

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            • #21
              ASLAMU ALIKUM:

              المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة أمة الله85 مشاهدة المشاركة

              You said: So what... Sunni's and Shiites kill each other every day. Does the Quran tell them to do this? No. It tells them not to do this. Muslims don't listen to the quran unless they want to. Just like Christians with the bible.

              [Bukhari]
              المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة أمة الله85 مشاهدة المشاركة

              You said: . What does it matter if they all use the same book when they don't all interpret it the same way?
              [Bukhari]

              ITSNOT MY SPEECH WHO SAID THAT
              A CHRISTIAN PERSON.


              المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة أمة الله85 مشاهدة المشاركة


              Quote:Allah may tell you he is the god of Muslims and Christians. But the Christian God tells us that He is not the God of Muslims. He tells us that if anyone comes preaching anyone other than the Christ, let him be accursed

              My sister every one have his believes and u should respect her believes if u want her to respect yours…Allah is the one who create every thing and he is the only God for all the creations ,If she think other wise so she have her believes and we have ours.
              Do not ever think that u can guide ppl, Allah is the one who guide not you ,so all u can do is deliver the message of Islam then whether they accept it or not this is not your job.
              [Bukhari]
              YOU ARE RIGHT


              JZAKI ALLAH KL KHAIR..GOOD POINTS AND IMPORTANT WAYS THANKS

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              • #22
                المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة طالبة علم مشاهدة المشاركة
                السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته :

                عفوا أخوتي في الإسلام البعض فهمني بالخطأ
                ronya: جزاك الله خير الجزاء
                السيف البتار : بالنسبة إلى
                while in Islam Millions of Muslims Although there are many sects too ,, All of them have Holy Quran.. the same one from over 1400years old

                هذا مقطع من مناقشة حدثت في أحد المنتديات و فيها تبين إحدى الصديقات ان المسلمين مهما اختلفت طوائفهم فان القران يجمعهم ..غير محرف كما في كتبهم لأنه قال إن كتبهم غير محرفة بالرغم من اختلاف طوائفهم..وا نا لم انقلها كاملة ((اعتذر جدا على عدم التوضيح لأني كنت في عجلة ))

                أما بالنسبة لرد الشخص عندما قال عن حروب الشيعة و السنة توقفت صديقتي للحظة (( حزنت لأن المسلم يقتل أخيه فكيف ترد عليه ))
                بالرغم من أن هذه المناقشات لا تحدث إلا بوجود أحد الذين يعلمون بالدين و للأسف في الوقت الحاضر لا يساعدها أحد فكلمتني عن الموضوع..



                و توضيح آخر :


                و لا تجادلوا أهل الكتاب إلا بالتي هي أحسن إلا الذين ظلموا منهم و قولوا آمنا بالله و ما أنزل إلينا و ما أنزل إليكم و إلهنا و إلهكم واحد و نحن له مسلمون..هذه الآيه ردا على أحدهم عندما قال:إلهنا أفضل من إلهكم ..الخ

                And argue not with the people of "
                the ******ure (Jews and Christians), unless it be in (a way) that is better (with good words and in good manner, inviting them to Islâmic Monotheism with His Verses), except with such of them as do wrong; and say (to them): "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our Ilâh (God) and your Ilâh (God) is One (i.e. Allâh), and to Him we have submitted (as Muslims)."<<< أخذت من أحد المواقع المترجمة للقرآن الكريم و تم شرح أن المسيح ليس بإله و انما رسول من عند الله..و الله هو إله واحد خالق كل شيء ...الخ

                sa3d: بارك الله فيك و أثابك
                Habeebabdelmalek: شكرا جزيلا على المساعدة

                و الله يا إخوان إن الأعمال بالنيات و صحيح أنه مو كل واحد يدعو للإسلام لكن هذي البنت ما كانت نيتها إلى تنصر الإسلام و للعلم أنا مجرد طالبة علم في السادسة عشر من عمري لا مسيحية و لا متطرفة أو غير ذلك ..حبيت أساعدها لا أكثر و لا أقل ..و أعتذر الكلام كان مو واضح و لكنه كان حوار بين مسلمة سنية و شخص مسيحي و إذا تنصحوني بأن أوقفها فبفعل ..و كنت أحب شيء واحد- إني آخذ رايكم لأن المنتدى عجبني و الأعضاء رائعين فأنا أحب أتعلم و أقرأ أمنيتي أنفع هذا الدين العظيم و المسلمين

                فهل تسامحوني يا أخوة ؟!!و تقبلوني أخت و عضوة بينكم؟؟

                اعتذر لكِ أختي الكريمة إن كنت فهمت كلامك بالخطأ .

                أهلاً بيكِ بين أخوتك في الله
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                إن كان سيدنا محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم ليس رسول الله لمدة 23 عاماً .. فلماذا لم يعاقبه معبود الكنيسة ؟
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                والنَّبيُّ (الكاذب) والكاهنُ وكُلُّ مَنْ يقولُ: هذا وَحيُ الرّبِّ، أُعاقِبُهُ هوَ وأهلُ بَيتِهِ *
                وأُلْحِقُ بِكُم عارًا أبديُا وخزْيًا دائِمًا لن يُنْسى
                (ارميا 23:-40-34)
                وأيُّ نبيٍّ تكلَّمَ باَسْمي كلامًا زائدًا لم آمُرْهُ بهِ، أو تكلَّمَ باَسْمِ آلهةٍ أُخرى، فجزاؤُهُ القَتْلُ(تث 18:20)
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                الموسوعة المسيحية العربية *** من كتب هذه الأسفار *** موسوعة رد الشبهات ***

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                • #23
                  ما حصل إلا الخير أخي السيف البتار
                  بارك الله فيك

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                  • #24
                    السلام عليكم أختى
                    am sorry my sis ,I didnt meant anything by"you said" ,all what i meant was quoting your post

                    I really didnt meant anything bad
                    peace be upon you

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                    • #25
                      أمة الله
                      Never mind ..every thing is ok

                      thank u very much my sister

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                      • #26

                        My sister every one have his believes and u should respect her believes if u want her to respect yours…Allah is the one who create every thing and he is the only God for all the creations ,If she think other wise so she have her believes and we have ours.
                        Do not ever think that u can guide ppl, Allah is the one who guide not you ,so all u can do is deliver the message of Islam then whether they accept it or not this is not your job.
                        I'm very happy to hear this words from my sister Ammat Allah it's a perfect words which solve half the problems of world. ..
                        and I'm happy to hear about Islam union between Shie'a and Sunna ..
                        I'm from Iraq and I know what's going on there. Problem isn't between Shie'a and Sunna .. We live together till know. My parent one of them Sunni and other Shiei.. but the problem between the radical wing from each. Confirmed by America and ba'ath party followers .. they use the stupid persons to do the conflict and most of people about 95% not believe and not confirm this act which is doing by the criminals and radicals .. I'm till now not understand how the human have a mind can do the explosion to kill the children and women and poor man in markets, school and streets.. and some times kill himself for do that.. the problem not caused by Quran .. the problem caused by neglect of Quran and the messenger of God wills..
                        thanks to my teacher Al-Saif Al-Batta'ar he reflect important side of conflict in Iraq.. Thanks for the all..

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