Debate about Christian false dogma with the Russian priest Emmanuel

[Habeebabdelmalek]

Habeeb Abd-ElMalek Said

Hey Emmanuel

a- It is will known from the Bible that the WORD of God is not God, read
"So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth
" Isaia 55:11 NKJV

"Hear the word which the LORD speaks to you" Jeremiah 10:1 New King James Version


b- If John 1:1 "the Word was God" and John 1:14 "The Word became flesh" are true
Then we can say The Word = God and The word = is Flesh then God = Flesh

c- John himself says in his gospel by the tongue of Jesus "God is Spirit" .. He didn't say God is flesh

d- The flesh died on the cross "Christ died" Romans 5:8 (KJV)

e- GOD has everlasting life "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see" 1 Timothy 6:16 KJV
"He alone has everlasting life" 1 Timothy 6:16 Worldwide English New Testament

f- The proof that John didn't say that Jesus is God his saying in John 20:31
"Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God" .. he didn't say jesus is GodPaul confirmed that we have only one God THE FATHER not the son
for us we have only on God THE FATHER"

g- The translation of John 1: 1 is not correct and we will see by the provesfrom the Greek versions

This is John 1:1 from the Greek version Westcott-hort new testament
εν αρχη ην ο λογος και ο λογος ην προς τον θεον και θεος ην ο λογος

A- The Word = ο λογος
means inspiration of God and it is mentioned in John 10:35
If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the scri ure cannot be broken) John 10:35 (NKJV)

ει εκεινους ειπεν θεους προς ους ο λογος του θεον εγενετο και ου δυναται λυθηναι η γραφη

B- You can see here also the word
θεους = plural of θεος = gods
It was given to the childern of Israel by Jesus so you can consider them as God because they are given the the same word given to Jesus in John 1:1
C- Also you can see the word
θεος
to be given to the belly - abdomen by Paul in Philippians 3:19.. so you can consider the belly - abdomen as God because it is given the the same word given to Jesus in John 1:1

θεος = god
"whose god is their belly" Philippians 3:19
ων το τελος απωλεια ων ο θεος η κοιλια και η δοξα εν τη αισχυνη αυτων οι τα επιγεια φρονουντες
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...:19&version=68

D- Also you can see the word
θεος
to be given to the Golden calf by the writer of the book of Acts .. so you can consider the calf as God because they are given the the same word given to Jesus in John 1:1
"Make us gods to go before us" Acts 7:40

"τουτον ο θεος ηγειρεν τη τριτη ημερα και εδωκεν αυτον εμφανη γενεσθαι" ΠΡΑΞΕΙΣ ΤΩΝ ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΩΝ 7:40 1881 Westcott-Hort New Testament
So

Jesus is θεος
The Calf is θεος

So Jesus = Calf

and If Jesus is God so Calf is God

To be Continued

[Habeebabdelmalek]

Habeeb Abd-Elmalek Said

Hey Emmanuel

Let us know who is Jesus from the Bible

a- Jesus said he is the prophet like Moses "If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me" John 5:46 NIV

b- The true Prphet like Moses will not be killed "The LORD said to me: "What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. 19 If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death"

c- God said I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare The LORD declares" Jeremiah 23:31 NIV If Jesus was killed so he must be a false prophet.

d- Jesus said he has the right to be the follower king of David because he is David's descendant and this was not true

Was Joseph the true father of Jesus
A- If no, then Jesus has no right to take David's chair and he was a false prophet, so he was killed for that
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B- If yes, Joseph is the true father of Jesus, so Jesus is bastard the bible says "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD" Deuteronomy 23 KJV
, So Jesus was a false prophet and he died for that

e- The family tree of Jesus in Mathew is completely different from that in Luke? Why? Sure it is Faked family tree

f- Joseph in Mathew is the son of Jacob "Matthan begat Jacob; And Jacob begat Joseph" .. of While he is the son of Heli in Luke "Joseph, which was the son of Heli, Which was the son of Matthat"

To be continued

[Habeebabdelmalek]

Habeeb Abd-ElMalek Said

Hey Emmanuel

Read the following with full understanding

a- The Bible says "Jesus said to him, Let the dead bury their own dead" .. Luke 9:60

Jesus here in the previous verse means that there are some guys interested only in this life
he said that these guys are dead not alive because they are only making for life

b- So Jesus means that the guys insisting in doing the sins are dead, but when they hear Jesus then they
will obey God's law and orders .. and God's advice is giving life .. again he is confirming that in John 5:24 .. I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life

Now let's see what is the meaning of John 5:25-27

A- I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live John 5:25-27

The meaning

Son of God a title was given to David, Jacob, Solomon, Ephriam, Adam and to the all of the childeren of Israel
and the remaining was explained before

For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself

The meaning

Who granted life to the other .. Father granted life to Jesus .. So The Father is greater than Jesus .. For us we have only one God, the Father .. as Paul said

And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man

The meaning

God the Father gave Jesus the authority of Judge .. So, who is donner .. Who is the original owner of the authorithy .. Who is stronger .. also this verse is contradicting Matthew 20:23 .. to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared
by my Father

Thank you

To be continued

[Habeebabdelmalek]

Emmanuel Said

Hey Mr Habeeb

Can you please with all the wisdom and understanding you have tell me who is Jesus for you

It is very important before we can start showing and writting each other all the knowledge wisdom without inspiration

To be continued

P. emmanuel

[Habeebabdelmalek]

Habeeb Abd-ElMalek Said

Hey Emmanuel
- The bible says "Every prudent man acts with knowledge, But a fool lays open his folly" proverbs 13:16 .. and also says the mouth of fools pours forth foolishness

Paul says But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise


I'll use the Bible only as a reference for me and you .. This is Jesus from the Bible and this her mother
a- Liar "He Said I'm the prohet like Moses and this was not true .. because only the false prophet will be killed .. as deutromony 18:22 saying. was Moses Killed? .. sure no!. Then Jesus was not like Moses
b- He said I'll inherit king David chair and this was not true and he was killed mocked Him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews
c- He insulted the prophets saying "All who came before me were thieves and robbers" and the book saying "slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God
d- Gospel of Luke says Jesus is Bastard! "When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, "Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father "Joseph" and I have been anxiously searching for you
e- He said "The Son of Man will come with his angels and will be great like his Father. Then he will pay every man for what he has done. I tell you the truth. Some people are standing here who will not die before they see the Son of Man come in his kingdom" .. He didn't come and he didn't pay every man for what he has done

This is what the bible told us about Jesus Mother .. Prostitute

Matthew 1:25 Contemporary English Version
But they did not sleep together before her baby was born. Then Joseph named him Jesus.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...5;&version=46;


Matthew 1:25 New American Standard Bible
But kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...5;&version=49;

- Matthew 1:25 Worldwide English New Testament
But he did not make love with her until her first son had been born. He named him Jesus
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...5;&version=73;


Matthew 1:25 New Life Version
But he did not have her, as a husband has a wife, until she gave birth to a Son. Joseph gave Him the name Jesus
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...5;&version=74;

Matthew 1:25 New Living Translation
But she remained a virgin until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...5;&version=51;

From the Bible Do you want to know more .. about Jesus

I'll smash the numbers you brought and you will bring to support your false dogma

Thank you for your patiency .. To be continued.

[Habeebabdelmalek]

Habeeb Abd-ElMalek Said

Hey Mr. Emmanuel

This Jesus in Islam, Listen to the Quran telling you who is Jesus

"Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how God makes His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth

[Habeebabdelmalek]

Emmanuel Said

Notice that he started to be nervous and impolite

Mr Habeeb

I see that you are of more avidity to smash my "dogma". But I also hope that you really understand that any dogma by definition can not be smashed.... Just to say that. I remember of a pet that learned to speak and recite long speaches. One day as it was doing its usual way, it found out that it could not answer or reasonate with living being created to speak and recite. So what is the need? To speak and recite what you have learned and memorized? or To reasonate and logically dialog

Please this is not my level. I do not play games, I am a real as I am with my faith and am to not to loose time in *******ions...my Bible says: "A FOOL'S LIPS ENTER INTO *******ION, AND HIS MOUTH CALLS FOR BLOWS. A FOOL'S MOUTH IS HIS DESTRUCTION, AND HIS LIPS ARE SNARE OF HIS SOUL." Proverbs 18:6. NKJV
"AVOID FOOLISH AND IGNORANT DISPUTES, KNOWING THAT THEY GENERATE STIFE." 2 TIMOTHY 2 :23

It is amaizing that a man can be as dome as his dome sinful heart and still anyway think that he is wise!!!! Who are you! can you fight against thornes? stop blaspheming the name of Jesus he is the Savior of the world and stop the time of ignorance and repent and believe in Him He will accept you. Stop exceding in your ignorance and may Jesus shine on and in you for the salvation of your soul. WITHOUT JESUS THERE IS NO LIFE. YOU ARE LOST without his Calvary sacrifice. ALL WHO EVER EXIST AS GREAT MEN INCLUDING MUHAMED AND BUDHA ARE DEAD AND THERE TOMBS EXIST. ONLY JESUS IS RISEN FROM THE DEATH, SEEN BY MANY AND ALIVE TODAY... HIS EVIDENCES ARE CONFIRMED AND PROOVED BY ALL VARIOUS AREAs OF HUMAN LIFE... YOU MUST BE REALLY SELFWISE AND OF A GREAT SUBJECTIVITY TO PLAY THE GAME YOU ARE PLAYING. Hell is real and the devil is real. Jesus is the only One who died for man to be saved and reconsiled with God. Acts 16:32 God who put on the flesh came to reedem man by taking his place and overcoming death and stan and death... So that those who believe in Him shall not come to death, but to eternal life in Him....HE WAS not killed, He gave his life volunterly John 11:18 .......John 18:37 Romans 1:22

Remain blessed, Jesus is alive and he loves you anyway. That is the fact

P. Emmanuel