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Quote Originally Posted by محمد سني 1989 View Post
All of the resources I have taken are from the bible !!!! and the jewish source is accepted by jews and an acclimation to what we say!!!:
If the Jews accept the source, why aren't they embracing Islam. The Biblical sources are not saying that Ishmael was a prophet to me. You are very subjectively looking at this Scriptures. If it were as clear as you say, all Christians would be Muslims along with the Jews

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As for like me : the prophet was like Moses in many different aspects , second was addressing the jews but according to the KJV bible :

I will raise them up a Prophet from
among their brethren
, like unto thee

Their refers to the israelites

So Bretheren cannot refer to the israelites themselves , God simply could have chose to say from them not their bretheren . The context simply does not help your claim

Where is the answer to the other passages !!!!!???

Our discussion as I have noted was about prophethood from Ishmael

Why did you not address the rest of the passages ?????

Where is your answer according to what I said concerning Ishmael , the prophecy of Arabia, The jewish questioning of Jesus and what Jesus said in Matthew 21:43 and what Rabbi Shimon said ????

Did you choose to ignore or do you not have an answer !!!! :
The verse reads: Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. 44 And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.” You are thinking this refers to Islam and your prophet. No, The Jews rejected their Messiah so God opened the door for all peoples, races, cultures, languages and tongues the gentiles included. It is not speaking of Arabs only. We don't honor what Rabbi Shimon said even if the Jews do, but it is funny the Jews don't act like they honor it.

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Reminder :
As I mentioned, Brethren can refer to the Israelites themselves, because God used the same phrase later on to be referring to someone from their own brethren of the Israelites. God could have said from them and not their brethren but that is not the way the written put it in the Bible. The context I mentionrd does work from a biblical stand point. As for your prophet being more like Moses, I beg to differ especially when it comes to miracles and signs from God such as both were saved from infanticide, both were Saviors, both were made deities except Jesus was really divine and Moses was told he would be like God to Aaron and Aaron would be his prophet; the sea obeyed them both, both were called out of Egypt; both heard from God directly, Moses turned water red and Jesus turned water to wine (red) and many, many other similarities that no other prophet could touch. I look at all the Scripture you shared and even after you explain them I don't see a connection, and for sure any objective viewer wouldn't come to the conclusions you have arrived to. You also say it is clearly referring to your prophet and Ishmael being a prophet and the child of promise just because God blessed him and made him strong with him against every man and every man against him like we see happening in the world today, but I don't see how this constitutes prophet hood for Ishmael or any of his descendants. You will have a tough job convincing Jew and Christians of this.

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