Open topics on the Abrahamic faiths

[محمد سني 1989]

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Judaism, Christianity and Islam are considered Abrahamic faiths. All three cannot be right. Can't seem to get away from this trinity. I am really amazed that after our dialogue if Muslims they could dig in their heels. I am awe struck of the grip Islam has on Muslims and the concern it brings upon the world.

I don't understand how Muslims could read the Bible and see that Ishmael was rejected as the child of promise by God and Abraham. Since Islam's prophet Muhammad comes from Ishmael's line and no prophets come out of Ishmael, I could not see Muhammad a prophet of God for Jews or Christians. Catholics have lots wrong and so does Judaism, but Jesus said look at the fruit. When I look at radical Muslims I find they are truly living the Quran. It commands militancy. Most Muslims are moderate in their faith, but radical Islam will soon force moderates off the fence.

As I mentioned, Jesus said you'll know a tree by its fruit. I look at Iraq and the tree of Islam shows its true colors, IMO. I don't understand the color blindness of moderate Muslim, but I pray we all come to the knowledge of truth during the debates we have here.

Peace

I came here expecting a certain topic . All I see are accusations and generalities containing many topics

What exactly are you asking about :
1. Ishmael in the bible
2. The quran and what is going on today in Iraq
3. What jesus said to follow

BTW if you want violent passages I can quote thousands of passages in the bible within their contexts and their interpritations


I could also bring you the bloody history of your religion starting from the roman empire to the crusades

[*اسلامي عزي*]

In the name of Allah

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no prophets come out of Ishmael

are you sure ???
there is no relation between Ishmael and our prophet Muhammad puh ???
read this please !

Dictionary of the Bible
Philip Schaff




http://bluehost.levendwater.org/book...ible/index.htm




The Union Bible Dictionary
Frederick Adolphus Packard
page: 388





http://books.google.it/books?id=VTMX...0kedar&f=false


Basic Bible Dictionary
Michael Counsell
page : 63





http://books.google.it/books?id=Eczg...0kedar&f=false


The Popular Bible Prophecy Commentary
Understanding the Meaning
Tim F. LaHaye, Tim LaHaye, Edward E. Hindson

page : 166



http://books.google.fr/books?id=1A1A...ARABIA&f=false


Islam And Its Founder
J. W. H. Stobart
page :27










page 36

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I look at Iraq and the tree of Islam shows its true colors

there is no relation between what is happening now in Iraq and the peaceful religion of Islam.
may be you think that our God is a babys and animals killer !
who live in glass houses .......you know the rest colleague .
peace.

[Burninglight]

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In the name of Allah


are you sure ???
there is no relation between Ishmael and our prophet Muhammad puh ???
read this please !

Dictionary of the Bible
Philip Schaff




http://bluehost.levendwater.org/book...ible/index.htm




The Union Bible Dictionary
Frederick Adolphus Packard
page: 388





http://books.google.it/books?id=VTMX...0kedar&f=false


Basic Bible Dictionary
Michael Counsell
page : 63





http://books.google.it/books?id=Eczg...0kedar&f=false


The Popular Bible Prophecy Commentary
Understanding the Meaning
Tim F. LaHaye, Tim LaHaye, Edward E. Hindson

page : 166



http://books.google.fr/books?id=1A1A...ARABIA&f=false


Islam And Its Founder
J. W. H. Stobart
page :27










page 36









there is no relation between what is happening now in Iraq and the peaceful religion of Islam.
may be you think that our God is a babys and animals killer !
who live in glass houses .......you know the rest colleague .
peace.

You are reading into what I say again. I didn't say your messenger Muhammad wasn't a descendant of Ishmael; I said no prophets come out of him because Ishmael was no prophet. Therefore no prophetic line comes out of Ishmael. I am convinced that he is in the line of Kedar as you support and mention, but Ishmael according to the Scripture that came before was rejected by God and Abraham as the child of promise; so, the whole world is caught up in the middle of a family feud between the seed of Isaac and Ishmael. That is what Iraq is all about. Both Jew and Arab battle that the promise is with them, but we Christians support Israel, because God chose them as His people and not Ishmael. God did bless him, but that is as far as it goes.

peace