Adam and Eve in the Bible and the Quran

[Burninglight]

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Again the rules of the blog are clear you are not allowed to divert from the topic and bring up multiple topics in one response

This section is what actually has a response

First you said :

Yes, it does appear that Eve received most of the blame to me as well

And thats my point

Then you said :

This is not saying we inherited Adam's sin. It says we have our own sin

So sin is not inheritted

Then you say this :

Sin is like a cancer that spreads

Ok so it spreads as Paul said and as have I said

Then you clarify more by contradicting your first statement :

It is like someone having a sickness that someone gets. God made life that way. Have you ever caught someone else's cold?

So it is spread to us and we caught it from someone else (our father Adam according to paul) !!!

we caught something from our father and it spreads throughout generations = inheritting something from our father

IT IS THE SAME DEFINITION

Two statements which contradict each other :
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This is not saying we inherited Adam's sin. It says we have our own sin

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Sin is like a cancer that spreads. It is like someone having a sickness that someone gets. God made life that way

So How in the world do we have our own sins if the orginal sin spreads from one generation to another ????

My post was not a contradiction. You cannot gainsay me so you are trying to make it look like I am contradicting myself to make yourself look creditable, but it doesn't work that way.

We don't inherit someone's cold as you said, and we don't inherit sin as you say I am saying, but we have received a sinful nature that is NOT sin in itself; it is a propensity to sin that is in all human nature, and when we do sin, it is our sin not Adam's sin. You are responsible for your thoughts, words and actions not Adam's!!! It is written, "For all have sinned and come short of God's glory. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through (and only through) Jesus." You have counted yourself unworthy of this gift of God, and that is your choice. End of story.

Peace

[محمد سني 1989]

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My post was not a contradiction. You cannot gainsay me so you are trying to make it look like I am contradicting myself to make yourself look creditable, but it doesn't work that way.

We don't inherit someone's cold as you said, and we don't inherit sin as you say I am saying, but we have received a sinful nature that is NOT sin in itself; it is a propensity to sin that is in all human nature, and when we do sin, it is our sin not Adam's sin. You are responsible for your thoughts, words and actions not Adam's!!! It is written, "For all have sinned and come short of God's glory. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through (and only through) Jesus." You have counted yourself unworthy of this gift of God, and that is your choice. End of story.

Peace

Your statement is contradictory

since you said we do not inherit but it spreads across generations caught from the older generations is that not actually inheritance ????!!!!!


Here is the christian interpritation of the passage :

5:12-14 The design of what follows is plain. It is to exalt our views respecting the blessings Christ has procured for us, by comparing them with the evil which followed upon the fall of our first father; and by showing that these blessings not only extend to the removal of these evils, but far beyond. Adam sinning, his nature became guilty and corrupted, and so came to his children. Thus in him all have sinned. And death is by sin; for death is the wages of sin. Then entered all that misery which is the due desert of sin; temporal, spiritual, eternal death. If Adam had not sinned, he had not died; but a sentence of death was passed, as upon a criminal; it passed through all men, as an infectious disease that none escape. In proof of our union with Adam, and our part in his first transgression, observe, that sin prevailed in the world, for many ages before the giving of the law by Moses. And death reigned in that long time, not only over adults who wilfully sinned, but also over multitudes of infants, which shows that they had fallen in Adam under condemnation, and that the sin of Adam extended to all his posterity. He was a figure or type of Him that was to come as Surety of a new covenant, for all who are related to Him
Source:Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

I think this speeks for itself

peace

[Burninglight]

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Your statement is contradictory

since you said we do not inherit but it spreads across generations caught from the older generations is that not actually inheritance ????!!!!!


Here is the christian interpritation of the passage :

5:12-14 The design of what follows is plain. It is to exalt our views respecting the blessings Christ has procured for us, by comparing them with the evil which followed upon the fall of our first father; and by showing that these blessings not only extend to the removal of these evils, but far beyond. Adam sinning, his nature became guilty and corrupted, and so came to his children. Thus in him all have sinned. And death is by sin; for death is the wages of sin. Then entered all that misery which is the due desert of sin; temporal, spiritual, eternal death. If Adam had not sinned, he had not died; but a sentence of death was passed, as upon a criminal; it passed through all men, as an infectious disease that none escape. In proof of our union with Adam, and our part in his first transgression, observe, that sin prevailed in the world, for many ages before the giving of the law by Moses. And death reigned in that long time, not only over adults who wilfully sinned, but also over multitudes of infants, which shows that they had fallen in Adam under condemnation, and that the sin of Adam extended to all his posterity. He was a figure or type of Him that was to come as Surety of a new covenant, for all who are related to Him
Source:Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

I think this speeks for itself

peace

Let me ask you a question. In every day life, is it possible to suffer because of what someone else does? For instance, if someone runs a red light, is it possible for someone to be hurt or killed as a result of it? Is it possible for someone to catch someone else's sickness or disease? If you answer yes, hen tell me why does God allow that? You can call it contradiction if you want, but I will not argue the contradiction point your trying to make any further with you, but I'd be interested in hearing your response to my questions.

[محمد سني 1989]

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Let me ask you a question. In every day life, is it possible to suffer because of what someone else does? For instance, if someone runs a red light, is it possible for someone to be hurt or killed as a result of it? Is it possible for someone to catch someone else's sickness or disease? If you answer yes, hen tell me why does God allow that? You can call it contradiction if you want, but I will not argue the contradiction point your trying to make any further with you, but I'd be interested in hearing your response to my questions.

You are talking about something which completely contradicts the text

First your example here in not right because what the passage and the interpritation is talking about is the spread through generations starting from Adam
A better example would be a genetic virus that travels genetically from father to son , it spreads that way

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