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yes there is... Out of Gods mercy the penalty for my sin has been paid, so I can be made righteous in order to humble myself before God and be repentant. You will bear the penalty of your sin..
wishy washytalk as always, answer direct what is the point of your savior dying on the cross for the sin?? What sin is he dying for??
We say it is Adam original sin?? They say no we do not inherit sin
So tell me Pandora are babies born sinless in your believe ? please answer direct once
Well, for sure it makes no sense to me. You are asking me to believe that God created Satan as evil so as to be destined to hell.. I believe that God is holy and pure and all that is good, it is not possible for God to be the author of evil. Evil exists by nature of free choice. Satan authored his own destiny to Hell through his disobedience to God.
Why do you enjoy twisting the words, where did I say God made him this way??
I said he chose that way, he has free will he worshiped God, then he refused to obey God, so you think God has to reward him???
Do not twist my words... I did not say he was created good.. I quoted what you said .. He was created a great servant. I asked why... For what purpose? Which you did not answer. But gave me a pocket account of what you believe about jin.. As the Bible does not mention Jin.. I don't know what they are, what is their purpose and why God created another strata of beings apart from angels and men.. This is your belief and it does not overly concern me. I just said I find the Bibles account more believable and gives us a better understanding of the nature of sin and it's effect.
I do not twist your words, that is your job. Good or great, same thing he is just God creation, he chose to be good for certain time but after Adam’s creation he disobeyed God. Jinn like human have free will, and are accountable before God. So God did not chose his path he did it himself, been good before does not guarantee you eternal life forever.
differing of beliefs on this matter is immaterial. However, the Bible states angels did sin and for that they were cast from the heavens.. Difference being their sin is eternal with no chance of redemption.. Unlike mankind.
We do not believe that, why would angel’s sin be worse?? or no chance of redemption? Please think that through, so they have free will just like us, and God would forgive us but not them!!! Is that just?
As I said Islam teaches that Iblis was from Jinn who have free well, and difference between his sin and of Adam’s that Adam (pbuh) after committing a mistake (Eating the forbidden fruit), repented.
They said, "Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers." [Surat Al-'A`rāf 7:23]
And Allah accepts his repentence.
Qur'an 2:37 :Then Adam received from his Lord [some] words, and He accepted his repentance. Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.
And Indeed, If Iblees had repented after committing the mistake, Allah would have forgiven him.
Qur'an 5:39 :But whoever repents after his wrongdoing and reforms, indeed, Allah will turn to him in forgiveness. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
lol... Like time span has that much importance. Or even the number of Adams progeny.. So by your hypothesis Adam was still not much good as a prophet.. Seeing the rise of pagan religions.. Did his own family fail to listen to him? For sure his sons did not as brother killed brother.
Lol indeed, you see the difference between us and Christians, we believe what the Quran tell us. For you might just think it is another bible story, so you can’t gasp that 1000 years, and I did not say people started pagan worship, but he lived nearly 1000 years, and he was guidance to his children. The Quran does not tell us what happened in 1000 years but we can see what happen to people, that why they need a messenger after a messenger. After Jesus followers died, a new religion emerged and claimed to be from Jesus peace be upon him.
We are the son of Adam all of us, and if one of us is in the wrong path, it has nothing to do with him that what he was sent to teach people, as I wrote in summary the difference between us in this story
The whole story of Adam and Eve in the Quran clearly teaches us the that humans have freedom of will, responsibility for their choice of action and the consequent accountability before God. God says in the Quran: “And no bearer of burdens shall bear another’s burden.” (Quran 35:18)
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