the Bible VS the holy Qura'n

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I don't buy that.. You cannot say prophet Mohammed never came into contact with materials written or otherwise and had knowledge of them. You cannot prove he did not so you can't rule out the possibility.

Now if , I'm saying IF we agree with this "possibility" , how on Earth did he choose what's right and leave the huge loads of falsehood ? You're not convinced if we say he's illiterate , you're not convinced if we say he never left his land , you're not convinced when we tell you his life is recorded in detail and the many enemies of Romans , Persians , and Arabians would have knew if he had been "quoting" someone . Not to mention that they failed completely to state what these imaginary sources are .

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absolutely nothing wrong with the term "Pharaoh's wife"... On the same basis as what is wrong with the title "Pharaoh" being used in the Bible...

Now let's say it's not a mistake in hte Bible , Quran would be more accurate . That's the point .

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Now if , I'm saying IF we agree with this "possibility" , how on Earth did he choose what's right and leave the huge loads of falsehood ? You're not convinced if we say he's illiterate , you're not convinced if we say he never left his land , you're not convinced when we tell you his life is recorded in detail and the many enemies of Romans , Persians , and Arabians would have knew if he had been "quoting" someone . Not to mention that they failed completely to state what these imaginary sources are .



Now let's say it's not a mistake in hte Bible , Quran would be more accurate . That's the point .

It is not the point to me that you are insidiously trying to make; moreover, you do have a very funny way of seeing things. Let's say the Quran has the more correct term. It has had several hundreds of more years to get it right. If the Bible was written the same time as the Quran perhaps it may have used the same or a better term. These arguments are futile and do not get to the root of the problem between the Bible and Quran. Moreover, as far as 2 Timothy, some versions of the Bible interpret this as "All Scripture given by God is good..." It is obvious that not all Scriptures written in some versions of the Bible are God breathed by inspiration, but the central gospel message that can be found in most Bibles is along with every Scripture pertaining to it. For the nth time the Bible wasn't received as a verbatim word from God as the Quran was supposedly; so, you cannot judge it the same way you are trying to.
Show me a Bible that says Jesus didn't die and He didn't rise from the dead or that He wasn't born of a virgin or that says God is not a trinity or there is no tri unity pertaining to the one God or that Jesus is not the son of God or that Jesus is not divine and not coming back or His blood is not what cleanses us from sin. You won't find it. This is what we base the central gospel message on and what is God breathed by inspiration. All other things you mention are trivial. Nice try or attempt to destroy the Bible. Maybe we should concentrate on dispelling misconceptions we have about each other's religion instead of trying to destroy them?

Peace

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Now if , I'm saying IF we agree with this "possibility" , how on Earth did he choose what's right and leave the huge loads of falsehood ? You're not convinced if we say he's illiterate , you're not convinced if we say he never left his land , you're not convinced when we tell you his life is recorded in detail and the many enemies of Romans , Persians , and Arabians would have knew if he had been "quoting" someone . Not to mention that they failed completely to state what these imaginary sources are .

It's your belief that he chose what's right and left out falsehoods. The fact weather or not prophet Mohammed was illiterate or not makes no difference really. Sure, I find it odd that he ran his wife's business and over his lifetime despite being chosen as a prophet (your belief) he never thought that it be better to become literate the better to serve Allah. Does not Allah wish for people to educate themselves? However, he employed scribes, he was intelligent, he could hear and see... So assuming he spoke to people.. Jews and Christians of the time, of which there is evidence he did do... Then I still don't see how you can rule out the possibility that he heard and was influenced by those around him.
Yes, his life was recorded in detail.. In the aHadith? Of which there seems to be a great quantity which are considered as authentic or not as the case may be.. Who decides what is authentic? And when was it decided?
In regards to his enemies not noticing.. Or people not mentioning something they disagreed with.. Well, you don't know for sure they did not notice... Maybe someone corrupted or changed the texts... Are you sure no one mentioned the similarity of certain sources.. From Jewish writings etc? There must have been good reason for Jews and Christians of the time chose to reject Mohammed's claim as a prophet.. Otherwise they would have all been muslims. I can see why the Christians would not.. But the Jews were still awaiting their "Messiah" they had already rejected Jesus... Yet also rejected Mohammed.

Im not convinced of a lot of things... That is why I question things that do not add up to me.. I accept this could be down to my own misunderstanding when it comes to interpreting the Quran... As I have to compare it with what I already have and when I do that.. Then certain things do not make sense to me. I can respect that you have no such issues because you do not compare Islam to anything or see any faults. I struggle to see what the Quran brings that is "new" or improvement on what I already have in Jesus.

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Now let's say it's not a mistake in hte Bible , Quran would be more accurate . That's the point .

Fair enough..

Peace.