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Muslims share in the torah Allah sent sown just as much as Christians do; so what is your point?
As a Muslim i 'can ' t deny that the Torah is the Word of God [ Allah ]
i also think that this book was falsified by human hands
This fact is attested by the Torah itself !

Jeremiah 8 : 8
“‘How can you say, “We are wise,
for we have the law of the Lord,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?
Isaiah 29 : 16
Surely your turning of things upside down



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But the fact there are non Arabic words some may see as a problem
a problem ????
not at all !
I'm not embarrassed to say :
Yes, there are Some non-arabic words in the holy Qur'an .
These words were introduced to the Arabic language before Islam and become a purely arabic one.
the proof is the presence of some non-Arabic words in the Pre-Islamic Poetry .
I think now the view is clear .
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I meant an equivalent English word for an Arabic one.
and the problem is ????
maybe you don't know that it is not permissible to pray with the holy Qur'an's Translations !
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I'm not getting your point here so you will have to explain. What is the message you feel is changed here?
first, You can not deny the fact that the Bible is a real message from God .
God tells you through the Torah ' s text you must do this and You must avoid this !
Even if you told me that Jesus him self is the message i'll respond you :
the presumed message Jesus him self was changed !
Yahweh changed his name to Jesus although the presumed message said in Malachi 3 : 6
For I am the Lord, I change not.
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I can't see any difference between them in regards to the message they each convey.
Are you sure ????
Mount Ebal & Mount Gerizim are different paleces in Deut 11:29
but in Deut 27 : 4 they are the same !
here is the samaritan Eng translation :

below the NIV translation :

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Where do you think the copies came from? They had to be copied from the original autographs
the original writings (autographs) were lost .
they are not in the possession of any person or organization !
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From the manuscripts we have today it's possible to measure the accuracy of the copies made through the ages
the manuscripts do not agree with each other.
here is the problem !


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At least we can go back to the source of what was copied to check, but you cannot do this, because Uthman destroyed the source of his Quranic recompilation. No one can check to see how well he copied from Hafsah's original copy that was destroyed as well.
may be you don't know that the holy Qur'an is Protected & preserved in hearts not in paper or something similar !
the holy book was transferred to us through narration chains -Attawator- .
i think we will not find any chirstian person who memorize the bible from Genesis to Revelation !

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We had kept the thousands of
differing copies


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As I mentioned, we don't base our salvation on the torah
really , i don't know why -Sometimes - Christians deny the OT ???

peace with you .
Last edited by *اسلامي عزي*; 12-07-2014 at 07:49 PM.
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