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Ok Mrs. Pandora, what makes me believe Adam was forgiven: i was say Allah is forgiving.For why Allah removed Adam from paradise: because Allah was say to Adam he shouldn't eat from that tree (you know), so if he remain in paradise forever probably demon tempt him to eat again from that tree, and also: from Allah forgiven to Adam Allah removed he from paradise, and also: Allah said before he created Adam to Angels: "I'll make successor in the ground", so Allah created Adam to live he and his sons and wife in the ground, so Allah would to Adam do that sin.
In the contrary, why Allah created the ground?!
Ok.. You see Allah is forgiving, but is Allah also Just? Being Just does Allah not have to punish a person who has committed the greatest sin against His being? It looks like you are saying God forgave Adam for eating of the tree.. But so that he would not commit the same sin again he was banished to earth? But we know God gave mankind free choice.. If we did not then Adam would never have committed the sin in the first instance.. So you are saying God removes the free choice of Adam by removing temptation from him, but not all temptation because Adam still has freedom of choice to obey or disobey God? The Bible teaches that God created the world and all that is in it for His own glory and because He desired to share His life with others. The creation of all these things demonstrates His glory, His love, grace, mercy, wisdom, power and goodness.
The Bible teaches God created both the angels and man with the freedom of choice. He created both as holy and without sin that they might not only serve Him as the Creator, but bring Him glory. In particular, man, being created in God’s image, was created to have fellowship with God through the exercise of that image. Man was created to glorify God through the exercise of his personality.... mind, heart, and will. With his mind he was to know God, with his heart he was to love God, and with his will, in response to his understanding and love of God, he was to choose for God in obedience. But God did not create robots. That would have brought very little glory to God. Because His creatures were not robots, there was the risk of a negative choice. But God, by His sovereign will, purpose, and foreknowledge, determined to allow this.


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For death: we Muslims believe that, and we don't fear from it but if we relationship with Allah is bad, so we do good works then we believe we will enter paradise.
For spiritual death, it was just as not-Muslims, because Muslims just believe to Allah, but others call to he and to others, for example: christians call to Allah and to Jesus, and jews call to Allah and to moses, worshipers call to Allah and to them idols, but all those is really false, because if there was another god, so they will fighting to what they will doing, then creatures will spoil!
We know that salvation is assured by the atoning work of Jesus. The Bible teaches that our good deeds are nothing before a righteous God.. Because there is a danger that our good deeds can be a source of pride.. Which is sinful.. Because it takes away glory from God. Only by faith we are saved. Our good deeds are as a result purely born from a love of God and a desire to please Him. There is only one God that the Jews and Christians worship, that is YHWH God of the Bible and of all the Prophets. God knows who worships Him in truth and sincerity it is on that alone we are judged.

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For the hell, are you thought Muslims will enter the hell?! give me reason!
I never mentioned hell or that you will enter it. It's not my place to give you a reason. I am not your judge neither you mine. :)

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Now: you was said to me: "Also so you need to understand that we do NOT inherit sin", this agrees my say! i was say to you: How Adam's sin was inherit to his sons? it's impossible!
Adams sons did NOT inherit Adams sin.. You understand that is not possible as we are individually held responsible. Adams sons.. As all mankind.. inherited a sin nature from Adam. Which means we can choose to sin or not to sin.. More often mankind sins everyday we commit sin of some description.

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You said: "Do you believe we think Jesus was punished for our sins?", this reverse other christians say.
Ok, if your said is true, so what i'll do for Allah forgive my sin? or Allah really will punish me for that sin?! this is impossible!
Firstly Jesus was not punished or killed. Jesus gave His life as sacrifice for us because only a sinless being can make us right before God. By accepting Jesus we are saved... This was by the will and authority of God the Father. This gift of agape love from God to us His undeserving creation is freely given. I don't know where you stand as a Muslim or how Allah will judge you.. I do not see the answers in Islam to this question. You must pray to God for your answers on this.

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For your question: "what need has Allah for your good deeds?"; Allah is not need we deeds never, if we did bad thing, we will not hurt Allah in any thing, if we did good thing, we will not profit Allah in anything, but we deeds are for us, if we good deeds more than bad deeds, we will enter paradise, on the contrary, we will enter the hell.
For your questions: "How are you sure your deeds can ever be enough?", i don't sure my deeds can ever be enough, but i do good works too much to Allah to forgive my sins, and Allah don't forget my good works, so he will enter us into paradise by his mercy, because he love Muslims more than they love to him.
Well, I guess this must be satisfactory for you. But for me I prefer the certainty I have. We each will continue to do good deeds but for different reasons. I because I love God above all you because you hope they may be of some benefit to you when it comes to judgement. Just be sure pride does not creep into your intentions.. God abhors pride.

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For: "Peace to you", you are first christian i saw use it, but Muslims use "peace to you" Always, so Muslims loves each other more than christians!
I think you are making a joke here??? I wish peace to you because I see it is an accepted form of address to confer a wish of Gods grace upon another person. I do not wish peace to Christians as a standard greeting because we already have the surety of peace in Jesus... Just as we know all the prophets have peace in Jesus.. I would greet them with God bless you... Or blessings.. I would wish for the whole world Peace and also Gods blessings upon them.

Your joke I think is muslims love each other more than Christians.. :) I would say actions are sometimes louder than words. My love is not reserved for my Christian brothers and sisters but extends to every person as my brothers and sisters in humanity.

On that note... Peace and Gods blessings to you.