Who makes associations to Allah?

[Burninglight]

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Sister dear Heart.. What do you mean by this? Please explain..

She is saying that Jesus is not eternal and uncreated. She is saying that Allah said be and Jesus existed as a result of God saying be, but I am trying to tell her that Jesus is the word be that God used to created all things that God made flesh. Jesus preexisted as the word of God or the "be" in Islam.
The people of the Book of true Biblical Christianity are the only ones who know Jesus Christ. I believe that is why the god of Islam told Islam's messenger to ask the people of the Book (Christians) about his prophet hood if he had any doubts. IMO, Allah wouldn't have told him that if he didn't have doubts about his prophet hood. This begs the question, if he doubted, why should Muslims be so sure? Moreover, if Allah told Islam's messenger to ask the people of the Book about his prophet hood, how much more should Muslims today ask us people of the Book (Bible)???

Blessings,
BL

[فداء الرسول]

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She is saying that Jesus is not eternal and uncreated. She is saying that Allah said be and Jesus existed as a result of God saying be, but I am trying to tell her that Jesus is the word be that God used to created all things that God made flesh. Jesus preexisted as the word of God or the "be" in Islam.
The people of the Book of true Biblical Christianity are the only ones who know Jesus Christ. I believe that is why the god of Islam told Islam's messenger to ask the people of the Book (Christians) about his prophet hood if he had any doubts. IMO, Allah wouldn't have told him that if he didn't have doubts about his prophet hood. This begs the question, if he doubted, why should Muslims be so sure? Moreover, if Allah told Islam's messenger to ask the people of the Book about his prophet hood, how much more should Muslims today ask us people of the Book (Bible)???

Blessings,
BL

There is no doubt you are convinced this

Important: do not answer my questions?

Everything that exists in the universe is God's word and ordered permission Nothingproves that Jesus, the Word of God incarnate

2 - Why God chose the son of sin, the daughter did not choose? Are women less than menwhen the God of the Christians?

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There is no doubt you are convinced this

Important: do not answer my questions?

Everything that exists in the universe is God's word and ordered permission Nothingproves that Jesus, the Word of God incarnate

2 - Why God chose the son of sin, the daughter did not choose? Are women less than menwhen the God of the Christians?

The Bible is the proof that Jesus is the Word, and by that Word God created all things... That includes you dear heart. The Word IS eternal as God is Eternal the Word always existed and so the Word is uncreated. I simply do not understand why you think it is beyond the power of God to incarnate His Word into mankind. It's why we see Jesus as the message.. Not the messenger.

As to why Jesus was sinless, and needed to be sinless to complete Gods plan is sin nature was passed down through the father. This is how God in the Bible decrees it .. Sin came into the world through Adam.. Not Eve.. ADAM. Since Jesus had not literal, biological father, the sin nature was not passed down to Him. This Jesus was the only sinless being.. The Quran also attests to this fact. However, since He had a human mother, he was fully human but without original sin. Jesus has two natures... God and man. Col. 2:9 says ~ "For in Him dwells all the fullness of deity in bodily form." Jesus received His human nature from Mary, but He received His divine nature through God the Holy Spirit. Therefore, Jesus is both God and man. He was sinless, had no original sin, and was both fully God and fully man. Women are not less than men in the eyes of God.

blessings to you.

[Burninglight]

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Important: do not answer my questions? ]

I cannot answer your question. Only you can, but I can say what I think you mean. Are you saying you disagree with what I said? If so, please tell me what part you disagree with. If you agree with it, why are you telling me I cannot say what you meant if it is correct and true to you? Do you not want to be understood?

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Everything that exists in the universe is God's word and ordered permission

I agree

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Nothing proves that Jesus, the Word of God incarnate

Are you sure? Doesn't the Quran tell you that Jesus is a word from Allah? If He is not the word incarnate, then what was He made of if not flesh and blood or maybe you don't know what incarnate means?

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2 - Why God chose the son of sin, the daughter did not choose? Are women less than menwhen the God of the Christians?

Good question. I'll answer that after you answer why Allah didn't pick a woman prophet for Islam or tell me why Islam considers the witness of a women half that of a man?

Peace be unto you