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Please do tell me what makes you so sure, because I was born in the Catholic faith and I don't agree with them. My family is upset with me. I found no need to compare Judaism with Christianity as I believe it is an offshoot from it, but between my comparison between Islam and Christianity, I find Christianity to be the true faith. So, we have both made comparisons and contrasted them only to come to different conclusions. I wonder why the discrepancy between us. What did you see that made you stay Muslim? I saw Catholic Christianity was pagan influence, but this is not true of Biblical Christianity.
Well, I'll tell you the reasons briefly and we can discuss them in details afterwards.
Regarding Christianity :
1- The beliefs of christians are built on mere conclusions, they were not taught by Christ and not even mentioned frankly in their books.
Your books do not teach trinity , trinity is just your understanding to the relation between God, the Christ and Holy spirit. Other groups of christians like Arians and Ebonites in the past and Jehova's witnesses currently believe in the same books you believe in but they don't believe in trinity because they understand them in different way.
Christ didn't say that he is God, he used to pray to God, he refused to be called good because God only is good, he stated that he doesn't know when the hour is. How can I believe that does not when is the hour is God? Do you think this is logic ? How could I believe that he is God while he himself used to say that the Father is his God?
2- I can't trust the Bible to be the book that is inspired from God without any falsification. The Bible says things about God that I can't believe. I can't believe a story saying that God appeared in the form of man and had a fight with Jacob Pbuh and was not able to defeat him. There are several contradictions and errors in the Bible. The writers of the different manuscripts of the Bible have been adding and omitting words and phrases and Christians admit this. How can I believe that a message that was sent from Luke to Theophilus is the word of God? It's just a message according to its writer.
Regarding Islam :
1- Its faith is simple and so clearly mentioned in the Holy Quran. Its the same faith in which Moses Pbuh and all the prophets of the old testament believed in.
2- All the things that some people attack in Islam are in the Bible like Jihad and polygamy .... etc
3- The holy Quran and the Sunnah contain some miracles and prophecies that turned out to be true.
4- The Bible clearly prophecizes prophet Muhammad Pbuh.
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In fact, I stand on Christianity and what has be revealed to us through the torah and gospel as the Quran commands that I do, for I can do no other. I am not sure what you meant by keep from side pages. I don't mind discussion on a variety of topics with different people as well as you
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The Quran speaks about the true Torah and the true Gospel that were inspired to Moses Pbuh and Jesus Pbuh, but the Bible that you have today according to our belief is partially true and partially falsified and Christians admit this.
I think that it's better if you speak with only one person in the forum in one page. I think this may be better and it will make the discussion much more useful.
( يا أيها الناس اتقوا ربكم الذي خلقكم من نفس واحدة )
ثم وصف تعالى ذكره نفسه بأنه المتوحد بخلق جميع الأنام من شخص واحد ، معرفا عباده كيف كان مبتدأ إنشائه ذلك من النفس الواحدة ، ومنبههم بذلك على أن جميعهم بنو رجل واحد وأم واحدة وأن بعضهم من بعض ، وأن حق بعضهم على بعض واجب وجوب حق الأخ على أخيه ، لاجتماعهم في النسب إلى أب واحد وأم واحدة وأن الذي يلزمهم من رعاية بعضهم حق بعض ، وإن بعد التلاقي في النسب إلى الأب الجامع بينهم ، مثل الذي يلزمهم من ذلك في النسب الأدنى وعاطفا بذلك بعضهم على بعض ، ليتناصفوا ولا يتظالموا ، وليبذل القوي من نفسه للضعيف حقه بالمعروف على ما ألزمه الله له (تفسير الطبرى)
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