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Quote Originally Posted by محبة الرحمن View Post
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Nearly all Christians believe that Jesus was and is God. That is what the institutional
church has always taught. Christians professedly rely strongly on the Bible for this belief.
Yet there is not a single verse in the Bible which states unequivocally, “Jesus is God,” or
the like. Moreover, the New Testament (NT) gospels have no statement by Jesus in which
he identifies himself as God. In fact, there are many Bible verses which indicate that
Jesus cannot be God by declaring that only the Father is God

First, and foremost, is one of Jesus’ sayings recorded only in the Gospel of John. The
setting is the Last Supper, right before he was arrested and crucified. He prayed for his
disciples, saying, “Father,… This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true
God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17.3). So, Jesus tells the Father that he
is “the only true God” and then distinguishes himself from that one God. Both of these
points clearly indicate that Jesus himself cannot also be God.
Moreover, Jesus identified the Father as the only God. Earlier,
he told his Jewish opponents that the Father is “the one and only God” (John 5.44).
Most of what you said is true, but it is not all true especially you conclusion which is all wrong. Every Christian will admit that Jesus is not the father God, and no where are there many Bible verses which indicate that Jesus cannot be divine by declaring that only the Father is God. What you fail to understand is Christians believe there is only one God, and that Jesus is His word.

It is written that God exalts His word above all His name. There is no evidence that Muhammad even knew the name of God in the Quran or anywhere. Christians don't believe Jesus is God the father, but we all according to Scripture believe that Jesus is all that God is, but not all there is to God. This is a great mystery, and it is not like anything on earth.

Even God calls Jesus His son, and He even refers to Jesus like this: but to the son He says "But thou OH God...." Thomas called Jesus "My Lord and my God." You ignored to mention that Jesus did and said things that only God could do and say such as "Your sins are forgiven... I and the father are one..." Jesus accepted worship that only belongs to God.

Christians are not obtuse my friend. They don't need to hear Jesus say "BTW, I am God so believe me when I say it" We know who Jesus is. To know Him is to have eternal life. He said, "No man comes to God except through me" Jesus said, "You will die in your sin unless you believe I am He" did you think Jesus was joking?

IHMO, it sounds like He is talking about people that say things like you are saying. Jesus said, "Before Abraham was I am." If I meditate on these words, I think of when Moses asked God: "Who shall I say sent me?" God responded, "I am that I am." Jesus said, "I am before Abraham" so how can you just blow off all those verses I mentioned and think that one day you will stand before a terrible God and have to explain why you ignored these verses. Personally, I would never trade shoes with you. There are plenty of other Scriptures to show that Jesus is the total spiritual sum of all things and that He is not honored as a prophet unless he is honored above all prophets! To true Christians Jesus is not a messenger; He is the Message!