Is Christianity the religion of peace and love or the religion of revenge and terror?

[عثمان أحمد الشيخ]

Dear Pandora,
-- I would like to say that Jesus (pbth) used to pray prostrating putting his face on dust with all humbly and surrender to the Almighty Allah .Have you ever followed him in your praying ?.Have you ever tasted the thrill of prostration to the Almighty Allah who no one has seen him or heard his voice ?. It is the true happiness to do that. The messenger of Allah "Muhammad" (pbuh) taught us that when the slave is prostrating , he is being in the closest state to Allah.

-- In regards to what you quoted from John 1 /5/10/14/15/17 to prove that Jesus (pbuh) is Allah ( God Forbid ) .What you quoted are outside the text ( as you always say ) , But trust me if anyone reads all these chapters with his simple own mind and easy own thought away from the complicated thoughts of his fathers and his priests he will discover that these chapters deny the divinity of Jesus .Jesus (pbuh) was so clear to prove his humanity. He (pbuh) was talking about two, he and Allah the only true God who sent him. I hope that you reread them but without any background or any preivous ideas.I can comment on every chapter if you would like.
-- In fact a lot of priests deceive you and plant unreasonable ideas in your mind (Taking the chance that you look at them as angles) as they do in your ancestors when they persuaded them that they can buy parts of lands in Paradise versus taking their money. Historically that was known as " Deeds of forgiveness ". Their immorality reached to persuade people to buy land in Paradise for their dead relatives.
-- Excuse me . I will tell you something in present . I saw a video about a big priest who wanted to persuade a large audience of Christians that The Holy Quran admits that Jesus is god . What did the priest do ? . The Holy Quran talked about the Miracles that God gave to Christ (pbuh) .Allah said :-
110. Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to Thee and to Thy mother. Behold! I strengthened Thee with the holy spirit, so that Thou Didst speak to the people In childhood and In maturity. Behold! I taught Thee the Book and Wisdom, the law and the Gospel and Behold! Thou makest out of clay, As it Were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and Thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and Thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. and Behold! Thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. and Behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) Thee when Thou Didst Show them the Clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.'(5/110)
-- The priest read these verses but he hided or removed the phrase (by my leave ) .Then he said to people : " Allah only who is able to do that , then Jesus is God" . Of course , the man deceived all people because Jesus (pbuh) did all these deeds by the leave of Allah only.

to be continued

[pandora]

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Dear Pandora,
-- I would like to say that Jesus (pbth) used to pray prostrating putting his face on dust with all humbly and surrender to the Almighty Allah .Have you ever followed him in your praying ?.Have you ever tasted the thrill of prostration to the Almighty Allah who no one has seen him or heard his voice ?. It is the true happiness to do that. The messenger of Allah "Muhammad" (pbuh) taught us that when the slave is prostrating , he is being in the closest state to Allah.

It is wrong of you to claim to know how Jesus prayed, do you know how many verses in the Bible refer to prostration before The Lord? Or do you just use the example from Matthew...

~ 39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”~

you are also wrong and intrusive into a personal privacy as to how I choose to commune in prayer with God. Jesus taught we do not make a "show" of praying, that our prayers are a private matter between oneself and God the father. In this we may choose to kneel, we may choose to bow our heads or we may choose to prostrate.
Some Biblical prophets heard Gods voice.. And YHWH also revealed in part His glory to them. You know nothing about the closeness of Christians to God, we live our life through the guidance of His Holy Spirit and by the truth of His Word, Jesus. If we don't ask ourselves each day what can we do to the glory of God? Then we are lacking.. I am here now, by Gods will.. Because the still small voice of The Lord my God tells me to be true to my heart and try and bring understanding to others. By understanding I do not mean.. Think as I do.. Or take up thy cross and follow Christ, only God decides such things, for small people like ourselves we can only share the Word. If nothing else we reach a better understanding of each other and can meet as friends with a shared love of God between us.

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-- In regards to what you quoted from John 1 /5/10/14/15/17 to prove that Jesus (pbuh) is Allah ( God Forbid ) .What you quoted are outside the text ( as you always say ) , But trust me if anyone reads all these chapters with his simple own mind and easy own thought away from the complicated thoughts of his fathers and his priests he will discover that these chapters deny the divinity of Jesus .Jesus (pbuh) was so clear to prove his humanity. He (pbuh) was talking about two, he and Allah the only true God who sent him. I hope that you reread them but without any background or any preivous ideas.I can comment on every chapter if you would like.

No offence to your good self but nothing would be proved or gained by any commentary you could offer on Bible verses, as a Muslim you cannot hope to understand them in the same way as a Christian does. If you think we sit around and wait for some priest to come along and interpret them for us, then you are mistaken. The Bible is not all there is to God. Quite frankly I find it astounding that you feel you can offer a greater understanding of scriptures you have scant regard for and believe to be corrupt. Have you noticed I do not criticise or judge the Quran? Even though there is much that seems wrong to me and at odds with a Holy God. I have more respect than that, because the Quran is your Holy scripture and if you as muslims believe it to be divine then that's good enough for me.

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-- In fact a lot of priests deceive you and plant unreasonable ideas in your mind (Taking the chance that you look at them as angles) as they do in your ancestors when they persuaded them that they can buy parts of lands in Paradise versus taking their money. Historically that was known as " Deeds of forgiveness ". Their immorality reached to persuade people to buy land in Paradise for their dead relatives.

who are you talking about here? ... Catholics? Do your research not all Christian denominations hold to such nonsensical ideas. In fact I would be very surprised if today's Catholics hold to such nonsensical ideas and would not be so foolhardy to believe that money can hold any sway when it comes to Paradise.

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-- Excuse me . I will tell you something in present . I saw a video about a big priest who wanted to persuade a large audience of Christians that The Holy Quran admits that Jesus is god . What did the priest do ? . The Holy Quran talked about the Miracles that God gave to Christ (pbuh) .Allah said :-
110. Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to Thee and to Thy mother. Behold! I strengthened Thee with the holy spirit, so that Thou Didst speak to the people In childhood and In maturity. Behold! I taught Thee the Book and Wisdom, the law and the Gospel and Behold! Thou makest out of clay, As it Were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and Thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and Thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. and Behold! Thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. and Behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) Thee when Thou Didst Show them the Clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.'(5/110)
-- The priest read these verses but he hided or removed the phrase (by my leave ) .Then he said to people : " Allah only who is able to do that , then Jesus is God" . Of course , the man deceived all people because Jesus (pbuh) did all these deeds by the leave of Allah only.

to be continued

I would like to see such a video. Because I find it odd that any Christian priest... (I'm thinking he must be catholic, as they use the term priest.) that firstly, would use the Quran at all in reference to Jesus because there is very little in the Quran about Jesus. Secondly, that any Christian priest would use something from a gnostic gospel, that Christians believe lacked provenance and was highly likely that it had nothing at all to do with Jesus. I admit the fact that this fable does in a way offer proof of the divinity of Jesus, even with the words.. ~By my leave ~... Left in. as it shows Jesus creating life, Christians believe only God can create life. Jesus raised the dead on many occasions but He never created life.. Because He knew that creation is in the hands of God the Father only.

Peace to you.