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    نجد أيضا قصة زوجتي إسماعيل عليه السلام موجودة في سفر ياشر:

    اقتباس
    25 And Abraham asked the wife of Ishmael, saying, Where has Ishmael gone? and she said, He has gone to the field to hunt, and Abraham was still mounted upon the camel, for he would not get off to the ground as he had sworn to his wife Sarah that he would not get off from the camel.


    26 And Abraham said to Ishmael's wife, My daughter, give me a little water that I may drink, for I am fatigued from the journey.


    27 And Ishmael's wife answered and said to Abraham, We have neither water nor bread, and she continued sitting in the tent and did not notice Abraham, neither did she ask him who he was.


    28 But she was beating her children in the tent, and she was cursing them, and she also cursed her husband Ishmael and reproached him, and Abraham heard the words of Ishmael's wife to her children, and he was very angry and displeased.


    29 And Abraham called to the woman to come out to him from the tent, and the woman came and stood opposite to Abraham, for Abraham was still mounted upon the camel.


    30 And Abraham said to Ishmael's wife, When thy husband Ishmael returneth home say these words to him,


    31 A very old man from the land of the Philistines came hither to seek thee, and thus was his appearance and figure; I did not ask him who he was, and seeing thou wast not here he spoke unto me and said, When Ishmael thy husband returneth tell him thus did this man say, When thou comest home put away this nail of the tent which thou hast placed here, and place another nail in its stead.


    32 And Abraham finished his instructions to the woman, and he turned and went off on the camel homeward.


    33 And after that Ishmael came from the chase he and his mother, and returned to the tent, and his wife spoke these words to him,


    34 A very old man from the land of the Philistines came to seek thee, and thus was his appearance and figure; I did not ask him who he was, and seeing thou wast not at home he said to me, When thy husband cometh home tell him, thus saith the old man, Put away the nail of the tent which thou hast placed here and place another nail in its stead.


    35 And Ishmael heard the words of his wife, and he knew that it was his father, and that his wife did not honor him.


    36 And Ishmael understood his father's words that he had spoken to his wife, and Ishmael hearkened to the voice of his father, and Ishmael cast off that woman and she went away.


    37 And Ishmael afterward went to the land of Canaan, and he took another wife and he brought her to his tent to the place where he then dwelt.


    38 And at the end of three years Abraham said, I will go again and see Ishmael my son, for I have not seen him for a long time.


    39 And he rode upon his camel and went to the wilderness, and he reached the tent of Ishmael about noon.


    40 And he asked after Ishmael, and his wife came out of the tent and she said, He is not here my lord, for he has gone to hunt in the fields, and to feed the camels, and the woman said to Abraham, Turn in my lord into the tent, and eat a morsel of bread, for thy soul must be wearied on account of the journey.


    41 And Abraham said to her, I will not stop for I am in haste to continue my journey, but give me a little water to drink, for I have thirst; and the woman hastened and ran into the tent and she brought out water and bread to Abraham, which she placed before him and she urged him to eat, and he ate and drank and his heart was comforted and he blessed his son Ishmael.


    42 And he finished his meal and he blessed the Lord, and he said to Ishmael's wife, When Ishmael cometh home say these words to him,


    43 A very old man from the land of the Philistines came hither and asked after thee, and thou wast not here; and I brought him out bread and water and he ate and drank and his heart was comforted.


    44 And he spoke these words to me: When Ishmael thy husband cometh home, say unto him, The nail of the tent which thou hast is very good, do not put it away from the tent.


    45 And Abraham finished commanding the woman, and he rode off to his home to the land of the Philistines; and when Ishmael came to his tent his wife went forth to meet him with joy and a cheerful heart.


    46 And she said to him, An old man came here from the land of the Philistines and thus was his appearance, and he asked after thee and thou wast not here, so I brought out bread and water, and he ate and drank and his heart was comforted.


    47 And he spoke these words to me, When Ishmael thy husband cometh home say to him, The nail of the tent which thou hast is very good, do not put it away from the tent.


    48 And Ishmael knew that it was his father, and that his wife had honored him, and the Lord blessed Ishmael.
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/21.htm

    وسفر ياشر هذا قد أُشير إليه في العهد القديم

    في سفر يشوع:
    10: 13 فدامت الشمس و وقف القمر حتى انتقم الشعب من اعدائه اليس هذا مكتوبا في سفر ياشر فوقفت الشمس في كبد السماء و لم تعجل للغروب نحو يوم كامل


    ومرة في صموئيل الثاني:
    1: 18 و قال ان يتعلم بنو يهوذا نشيد القوس هوذا ذلك مكتوب في سفر ياشر


    ولتبرير عدم وجوده ضمن نصوص العهد القديم يدعي النصارى أنه ليس سفرا مقدسا وإنما هم بمثابة أشعار لتخليد انجازات وملاحم بني إسرائبل.....وبما أن كلمة (ياشر) تعني المستقيم, فهنا بعض الإدعاءات بأن كلمة (ياشر) قد تكون صفة وليست علما, فقالوا أن سفر ياشر المقصود به سفر التكوين أو القضاة أو التثنية وهذا يجعلنا نتسائل لماذا تُرجمت كلمة (ياشر) كما هي ولم تُترجم بمعناها؟

    وعن سفر ياشر الذي بين أيدينا تخبرنا المصادر اليهودية أنه قد أُلف متأخرا في القرن الثالث عشر, خاصة وأن أسلوبة متأثر بالفلسفة الأخلاقية التي كانت منتشرة في هذا الوقت

    تقول الموسوعة اليهودية:
    SEFER HA-YASHAR (Heb. סֵפֶר הַיָּשָׁר; "The Book of Righteousness"), an anonymous work, probably written in the 13th century, one of the most popular ethical books in the Middle Ages. The book was published for the first time in Venice, in 1544, and since then has been reprinted many times. It was frequently attributed to R. *Tam, the tosafist, who wrote a book by that name (Sefer ha-Yashar le-Rabbenu Tam, Vienna, 1811); his writing, however, is concerned only with halakhic problems. Some manuscripts attribute the book to Zerahiah ha-Yevani, but there is no evidence to bear out the authenticity of such an ascription. Some scholars have suggested that the author might have been R. *Jonah Gerondi, one of the foremost writers in the field of ethics in the 13th century; however, the difference between R. Jonah's known views and those expounded in Sefer ha-Yashar would suggest otherwise.
    There is also some confusion regarding the nature of the book and the school of ethical concepts to which the author adhered. The style and language conform to contemporaneous philosophical ethical writings and ideas; the author especially made use of Aristotelian terms and concepts. The work, however, is also marked by a tendency to deviate from the central stream of philosophical conventional ethics. This is evidenced in some of the main ideas. The difference is so great that some scholars have concluded that the author might have been a kabbalist who did not want to reveal the full scope of his mystical beliefs. Some ideas in the work also bear great similarity to the ethical concepts of the Ashkenazi ḥasidic
    movement which reached its peak in the 13th century, and especially to *Sefer ha-Ḥayyim, which was written by one of the *Ḥasidei Ashkenaz.


    المصدر:
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...8_0_17935.html


    وعموما فالمصادر اليهودية تؤكد- كما هو واضح - أن القصة مأخوذة من مصادر إسلامية لوجود أسماء عربية لزوجتا إسماعيل عليه السلام, وأحد الكُتاب اليهود يرجع القصة للقرن السابع الميلادي ويؤكد أنها مقتبسة من مصادر إسلامية:





    المصدر (نهاية الصفحة 15 وبداية الصفحة 16):
    http://books.google.com.qa/books?id=...page&q&f=false

    يتبـــــــــع بإذن الله
    التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة مسلم77 ; 13-10-2012 الساعة 10:56 PM
    "ما ناظرت أحدا إلا وودت أن يظهر الله الحق على لسانه"

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