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    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

    أود أن أسألك أختي هل يعلم كاتب الموضوع ديانتك أم لا؟


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    That would be blasphemy for Solomon to claim that... and he doesn't. If you start reading from verse 1 of the chapter you mentioned, you will see that Solomon is talking about God's wisdom. He certainly was not saying that he existed before anything. Jesus however could claim that He existed before anything because He created.
    I really don't know how do you read and understand your bible

    If you said that Proverbs talks about God wisdom

    so what do you think about this verse

    King James Bible: Proverbs-8-22: The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.


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    In John 10:30, Jesus claims to be one with Jehovah God. No matter what translation you use... his words were clearly understood by the pharisees. They told Jesus that they were going to stone Him, for blasphemy because He had claimed to be God.
    This is your evidence

    King James Bible: John-10-30: I and my Father are one


    Please read the next 6 verses and you will find that Jesus was trying to explain to them that he and God have the same purpose and not more

    Look what does Jesus told the disciples in
    John-17-11: And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are

    and in
    John-17-22: And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one

    Are the disciples gods also?????


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    In Colossian 1:15-17, we see that Jesus in, or through Jesus all things were created. If Jesus were not God, then he would not have been involved in creation... It was God ALONE who created.
    I've replied for this before

    AGAIN

    King James Bible: Colossians-1-15: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature

    Where's your mind man? This is an evidence that Jesus was a creature and not the creator

    read it slowly

    the firstborn of every creature

    the firstborn of every creature

    the firstborn of every creature

    or in other translations or versions

    the firstborn of all creation

    and so Jesus is one of the creatures and not a creator



    Now Im waiting for your to answer this question

    Tell me who is Jesus's Lord!!!!!!

    MAR-12-28: And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?


    MAR-12-29: And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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    وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

    أود أن أسألك أختي هل يعلم كاتب الموضوع ديانتك أم لا؟
    أختي الفاضلة يعتقد كاتب الموضوع أننا من شهود يهوه :)

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    Your understanding of scriptures comes from Watchtower teaching. But the Watchtower organization is leading millions of people to a Christless eternity through false teaching, and by distorting the original Greek manuscripts
    وهو يريد أن يفتح موضوع جديد ليوضح لك حقيقة وتاريخ شهود يهوه
    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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    أختي الفاضلة يعتقد كاتب الموضوع أننا من شهود يهوه :)



    وهو يريد أن يفتح موضوع جديد ليوضح لك حقيقة وتاريخ شهود يهوه

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

    جزاك الله خيرا

    نعم لقد عرفت ذلك لانني لم اعرفه ديانتي فلو عرف اني مسلمة سوف يتهرب اكثر من الردود بوضع شبهات عن الاسلام .

    اما اذا فتح موضوع عن شهود يهوه فلست انا التي سوف ارد عليه فقط وانما هناك عضوة من هذه الديانة سوف ترد عليه لانها اليوم ارسلت لي رسالة خاصة

    You will know the truth and the truth will set you free??? I liked your post. I just read it. No Jesus wasn't God. Jesus was "a god" but not "the God". The scriptures are clear but people often put their own interpretation onto it. It's a shame. Well they are often mis-lead. But I loved the reasoning you gave. It's very nice to meet you. , whichever. I was Angel Seeker once upon a time ....... but people thought I was literally seeking angels.

    وحتى لو وضعوا هذا فلن نستسلم فالله سوف ينصر الدين الاسلامي ان شاء الله

    والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

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    No Jesus wasn't God. Jesus was "a god" but not "the God". The scriptures are clear but people often put their own interpretation onto it. It's a shame.
    Now he was a god, but not the God
    You claim that the word "God" with a capital "G" refers to God himself, and the word "god" with small "g" refers to humans.

    So, what do you think of this verse:
    "The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. (From the NIV Bible, 2 Corinthians 4:4)"

    Now which G\god is that ? the father or the son?

    It should've been written as "The God of this age....." since the same Greek word was used for Jesus in describing him for being a "God".

    well, so how many gods do you have in the Bible?
    alot of gods

    It is quite unfortunate that in the old Jewish culture, people used to be named "Godly" names.
    Let us look at Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' " "gods" here in Hebrew is "Elohim", which is plural of "EL". It is the same exact thing as "EL" used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6, since "gods" is a combination of several "EL"s. And as clearly shown here, for someone to be called "god" or "God" in the Bible it wouldn't make him GOD Almighty Himself, the LORD or Jehovah.
    I also want to point out that ANY "Son of GOD" in the Bible is a "god" or "God" as clearly shown in Psalm 82:6

    Abraham called a mountain "The LORD will Provide" (Yahweh Jireh). "So Abraham called that place The LORD Will Provide (Yahweh Jireh). And to this day it is said, "On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 22:14)"

    Ezekiel means "Strong God". It also means "Yahweh is Strong God".

    Israel means "Challenge God", "he struggles with God", or "fight with God". It also means "Defeat God".

    Gabriel also means "Strong God".

    Eliadah or Eliada means "God knows".

    It is important to know that, this "God" title in the New Testament was given to others beside Jesus as well. It is not the unique "The LORD" or "Jehovah" title that was given only to the Father, was given to Jesus. No where in the Bible was Jesus given such title.

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    من هنا نبدأ ... وفي الجنة نلتقي
    إن شاء الله

    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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    It's very nice to meet you. , whichever. I was Angel Seeker once upon a time ....... but people thought I was literally seeking angels.
    I have started a religious debate with you, so there is no place for meeting or seeking angles

    See man, either to complete a decent debate, or never write backe anymore,
    i.e.,
    put up or shut up

    got it?
    ..........
    من هنا نبدأ ... وفي الجنة نلتقي
    إن شاء الله

    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

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