Great Sister
Tajweed
May Allah Reward you Al Ferdaws Al A3la
With My love & Respect
عضو شرفي
Great Sister
Tajweed
May Allah Reward you Al Ferdaws Al A3la
With My love & Respect
عضو شرفي
Part 3
Qur’an & the Bible in the light of history and science
Section II
The Holy Book in the light of Qur’an and Hadith
Chapter One
What Qur’an says about the Holy Book
A message I address to William Campbell and whoever follows his example:
How to interpret God’s Book in a different way rather that given by the messenger PBUH and his companions whom Qur’an was revealed in their language? Who gave you the right to interpret the verses as you like?
Do you accept if I follow your dirty method and interpret the Bible as I like without referring to the approved authentic interpreters from the church?
Is this the honesty and objectivity which you called for as you wrote in the introduction of your book and the preamble part?
It is not a shock for me to see you sailing ignorantly in Qur’an; however, you thought that you held the stars with your hands. Nevertheless, your ignorance has put in a dilemma because each step you have taken in the Qur’an condemns you and your belief.
Logic says: any liar is to be objected to his fallacy by valid evidence which becomes a proof against him and not in his favour.
If you use Qur’an as a proof for the validity of your so called the Holy book , then you have made of the Qur’an evidence against you and not for you.
Before I start to answer the words of William Campbell and the verses which I cite in order to prove that his so called book and his Christian religion are right through the Qur’an, I must first explain certain important points that would facilitate for the reader and the seeker for truth to know what are the rules that William Campbell must rely on in order to place Qur’an in the scales through which he attained the right to cite verses from it.
What is the concept of revelation in Christianity and Islam?
• Revelation in Islam is the Holy Spirit of our master Gebril Peace Be upon Him. The great Qur’an came to confirm that Qur’an was revealed to the heart of the final messenger through the revelation angel whom Almighty God allocated within his tasks to reveal messages.
(( وَإِنَّهُ لَتَنزِيلُ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ {192} نَزَلَ بِهِ الرُّوحُ الْأَمِينُ {193} عَلَى قَلْبِكَ لِتَكُونَ مِنَ الْمُنذِرِينَ {194} بِلِسَانٍ عَرَبِيٍّ مُّبِينٍ {195})) الشعراء 193: 195
[And Truly, this (the Qur’an) is a revelation from the Lord of all creation (Alamin (mankind, jinn and all that exists] (Al-Shoraa- 192)
[Which the trustworthy Ruh (Jebril) (Gabriel) has brought down.] (193) [Upon your heart (O Muhammed PBUH) that you may be one of the warners,] (194) [in the plain Arabic language] (195) (Al-Shoraa 192-195)
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God supported our master Moses, Jesus, all prophets and messengers Peace Be upon them and our prophet by the Holy Spirit who is our master Gebriel Peace Be Upon Him.
• The revelation in Christianity as it came in the website of the Anglican church at Qasr Al-Dobara (kdec) in the explanation of the Holy Qur’an revelation is as follows:
The revelation or inspiration is the work of God’s spirit in human mind as guidance for the prophets and messengers and scribers of the Holy Books to show the divine truth, infallible. All written by scribers was to guide mankind was God’s words by truth and constitution bestowed to us from God for belief and work. The original copies which were produced by them were flawless as well. They have a divine master as well as each scribed or printed copy if it conformed to the original would have the same impact. The revelation was described as perfect i.e. sufficient to achieve its target. Revelation written books even if they were written by mankind through their minds and spiritual powers are God’s words and it is true to say that revelation is the father of words and ideas. … ended
We must take into account that this concept would put in front of us a million question marks, because if we look at our master Dawood Peace Be Upon Him as they described in the Bible (no power or might except by God) we find that the revelation comes to Dawood to reeval to him at daytime, then the revelation comes to commit adultery at night as he did with Urea’s woman, then the revelation comes to him in order to kill his mistress’s husband? Can revelation and the devil be united at the same time while the Bible said that God’s spirit was embodied in Dawood till the end of his life?
Samuel I Book 13 :16
سفر صموئيل الأول 16:13
فحلَ روحُ الرّبِّ على داوُدَ مِنْ ذلِكَ اليومِ فصاعِدًا
Samuel I - 13 :16
[ The soul of the Lord prevailed on David from that day on]
After what we explained by the concept of revelation in Islam and Christianity, we come to another point which is : Christianity… did the Qur’an refer to a religion calling it Christianity?
The Qur’anic websites are within your reach and you can apply the property of search and you will find that the Qur’an did not mention at all a religion called Christianity. Rather, it was stated in Qur’an that all religions sent by God to whom all might and glory belong ia Islam.
قال تعالى :
قُولُواْ آمَنَّا بِاللّهِ وَمَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْنَا وَمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَى إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالأسْبَاطِ وَمَا أُوتِيَ مُوسَى وَعِيسَى وَمَا أُوتِيَ النَّبِيُّونَ مِن رَّبِّهِمْ لاَ نُفَرِّقُ بَيْنَ أَحَدٍ مِّنْهُمْ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ مُسْلِمُونَ
[البقرة136]
God to whom all might belongs said:
[Say (O Muslims), “ We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Ismail (Ishmael), Ishaq (Isaac), Ya’qub (Jacob), and to Al-Asbat [the offspring of the twelve sons of Ya’qub (Jacob). And that which has been given to Musa (Moses) and Isa (Jesus) and that which has been given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam).]
(Surat Al-Baqra- Verse No. 136)
Islam means in general submission, obedience and conformity.
However, Bani Israel chose for themselves Judaism and the followers of the Christ Isa (Jesus) son of Merriam chose for them Christianity.
قال تعالى :
وَقَالَتِ الْيَهُودُ وَالنَّصَارَى نَحْنُ أَبْنَاء اللّهِ وَأَحِبَّاؤُهُ قُلْ فَلِمَ يُعَذِّبُكُم بِذُنُوبِكُم
[المائدة18]
God to whom all might belongs said:
[And (both) the Jews and the Christians say: we are the children of Allah and His loved ones. “Say: “Why then does He punish you for your sins?”]
(Surat Al-Maeda- Verse No. 18)
However, all churches announce that Christianization is a Christian heresy as it used to believe in one God who does not belong to the Trinity conviction at all and is similar to Nastor نسطور.
This is the Copts website testifying in this respect:
• This is a translation of what was stated in the webpage:
The website is an article on the Christian Ebionites and their relation tp Mohammed holder of Islamic Shari’a.
• The name Christians were only named Ebionites. These Christians (Ebionites) had a way of thinking far away from Christian faith as it is a heresy separated from Christianity. Among them was the priest Warqa Bin Nofal.
• On the other hand, when the Christian tries to confute, argue or fraud what was stated in Qur’an, we find him talking as if he were نصرانى Christianized; however, when you ask him : are you Christianized? You find that he denies at once his being Christianized. Rather, he confirms that he is Christian as a follower of Bolus not a disciple of the Christ… in addition, when you ask him: was the Christ the one who gave you the name of Christianity? We find the answer at once in negation because the Christ knew nothing about Christianity otherwise he would have talked about it.
After we discussed Christianity and Christianization, we turn now to a new point : أهل الكتاب Ahl El-Ketab ( People of the Book)
Is the Christian considered among أهل الكتاب Ahl El-Ketab ( People of the Book)
When we asked people of the cross, descendents of the Jews this question, the reply came in negation. However, due to the strength and emphasis of the Muslim evidence against the Christian, we find him (the Christian) disguise or hide behind his views in order to attack the Muslim in his Isalm and belief.
• Here is a Christian theologian spreading his conviction which declare that they are not أهل الكتاب Ahl El-Ketab ( People of the Book)
• We are not Christianized as this was a sect that lived in ancient times in Arabia which has nothing at all in common concerning its conviction with the Christianity of Egypt’s Copts and we are not أهل الكتاب Ahl El-Ketab ( People of the Book)
• Therefore, we find the Christian applying all methods of lying, forging and fraud as an attempt to Christianize Muslims. When he throws his dirty traps on the Muslim, he starts to disclose his true face while explaining new concepts which the victim, who fell in his traps, knew nothing about.
Then we turn to another question: was the Christ Jesus son of Mariam or Jushua?
The Christian does not believe that the Christ is Jesus son of Mariam, the priest Morkos Aziz said in the Al-Fagr Newspaper- volume No. 44 dated 3/4/2006 at page No. 27 : “We in Christianity know nothing about our master Jesus, but we know the Lord of glory, Jashua the Christ…” All churches have repeatedly announced that and their so-called book Holy did not announce the names of EISA or Yehia at all. The mistry that may puzzle some is: why the so called Holy Book did declare the names of some prophets who were stated in Qur’an specifically literally while it contradicted it with Eisa and Yehia?
Some said that the reason may be due to the translation; however, I did not find that this was the reason or else the names of Moses, James, Eshaq, Lout, Joseph, Noah, Adam, Mariam, Zechariah, Pharaoh would be affected.
Rather, the hidden point is forgery and alteration of the miracles bestowed by God to Eisa and the forgers attributed to John Al-Maamdan such speaking when he was still a baby in the cradle.
On one hnad, they have indicated in Luke book that John spoke when he was in the cradle while it was Eisa “Jesus” who spoke in the cradle.
لوقا 1: 64
و في الحال انفتح فمه و لسانه و تكلم و بارك الله
Luke 1:64
[And at once his mouth was opened and his tongue loosed, and he began to speak in praise of God.]
On the other hand, they mentioned the familial relationship between Jesus and Yehia. If the name Yehia was written, they have to mention the name of Jesus, and if the name of Jesus was written, they must mention the name of Yehia. Hence, they found that the best way is to distort names in order to escape such dilemma.
After that we turn to the most important of all point which is: what is the difference between Moses’ Taurat as stated in Qur’an and as it was stated in the five legislative books attributed to Moses among the components of The Old Testament?
What is the difference between the Bible of the Christ and the four bibles among the components of the New Testament?
قال تعالى :
وَقَفَّيْنَا عَلَى آثَارِهِم بِعَيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَآتَيْنَاهُ الإِنجِيلَ
[الماءئدة46]
{And in their footsteps, we sent Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) confirming the Taurat (Torah) that had come before him, and we gave him the Injeel (Gospel)}
(Al-Maaeda surat- Verse No. 46)
قال تعالى :
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عضو شرفي
إِذْ قَالُواْ مَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ عَلَى بَشَرٍ مِّن شَيْءٍ قُلْ مَنْ أَنزَلَ الْكِتَابَ الَّذِي جَاء بِهِ مُوسَى نُورًا وَهُدًى لِّلنَّاس
[الأنعام91]
{When they said: Nothing did Allah send down to any human being (by revelation) .”Say who then sent down the book which Musah (Moses) brought, a light and a guidance to mankind.}
Thus, it becomes obvious for us that God sent down Taurat and Bible only to our master Moses and our master Isa (Jesus) peace be upon them.(Al-Anaam Surat- verse No. 91)
Hence, we know nothing about the books, the chapters, and the superstitions which the Jews and their followers, people of the cross.
Let’s talk now about Taurat.
Let’s see what the people of the cross followers of the Jews believe in concerning both our masters Moses and Jesus Peace Be Upon them.
They said: Moses is the scriber of the Pentateuch and they are:Genesis, Leviticu, Exodus, Number, and Deuteronomy. They added to them Job book. They said that Moses, the prophet was affected by the tongue of the desert’s people in the land of Median which is Arabic tongue. Thus, the opening of Job book (p. 1 , 2) and its conclusion were in Arabic which he mastered its pronunciation and writing due to his living among its people for a long time (40 years in Median).
Among the most surprising ironies which was stated in replying to the refutation of Moses Peace Be Upon him being the scribe of the Pentateuch. The reason for this is that some of the Pentateuch forms were written in the third person, and it cannot be that Moses mentioned the story of his death with all its details and how he was buried! Who then completed the rest of the Pentateuch?
The answer was extremely funny as if we were talking about a line of verse, a story of a novelist and not a heavenly book that contains the words of Allah.
They said ignorantly concerning the writing of the Pentateuch by the third person: the writing of the Pentateuch in the third person is a very normal thing. The custom was that the prophet, writer, prose writer would talk about himself using the third person pronoun. However, they forgot that the Pentateuch contained both the first speaker and the third person when Moses talked about himself. This contradicts the writing style completely. Thus either he would write the whole Pentateuch in the third person or to write the whole Pentateuch in the first person. However, the Pentateuch was written in both forms as if a stupid person wrote them and not a man in his right senses.
In addition, they said concerning the death of Moses and the impossibility of his scribing the Deuteronomy: the Holy spirit who inspired Joshua to write the second book which is Joshua Book did certainly inspire him to scribe the conclusion of the Deuteronomy. Thus, the Deuteronomy 34 is the first chapter of Joshua Book. A Jewish theologian said: most interpreters said that Ezra is the one who wrote Deuteronomy 34. Some said that who wrote it was Joshua. Others said that the seventy presbyters were the ones who scribed this after Moses death, as the Deuteronomy originally concludes with this verse:
طوباك يا إسرائيل، من مثلك يا شعباً منصوراً بالرب ترس عونك
[Praise to you Israel, who is like you a nation victorious by God a wheel of your support]
The last chapter of the Deuteronomy book was originally the first chapter of Joshua Book. However, it was transferred from Joshua Book and was added to the Deuteronomy Book for the purpose of completion… ended.
These are people who think themselves talking about a weekly newspaper or a volume of Mickey and Batout because by referring to what I have presented to you, we can infer that their above-mentioned answers express their holders’ opinions, and they are not evidence or have any material proof. Evidence for this is their conflicting answers. They indicated that the writing form of the Pentateuch in the third person was an acceptable custom for all scribers. However, they forgot that the Pentateuch have both forms of the first speaker and the third person while Moses talked about himself. This is in addition to conflicting views in the Deuteronomy Book. Was it Joshua, Ezra or the seventy presbyters, or,… etc.
Certainly this kind of talking is not acceptable for any rational person when discussing a heavenly book.
The most surprising is that the people of the cross admitted that Moses the prophet used to write on papyrus. The disaster is that they have slandered themselves by saying that in Taurine Museum there is a papyrus written in Egyptian department that includes a written doc ument at the time of Tuhtmus III who reigned two centuries before the time of Moses. This proves that writing was known before the time of Moses.
This matter would move us to the most important point which is : if some pharaoh papyrus exist and are still kept till now, then where are these papyrus which Moses wrote by his hand for the Pentateuch or Taurat as they claimed? Where are these plates which were written by the hand of God?
Exodus Book- 34سفر الخروج 34
ثُمَّ قَالَ الرَّبُّ لِمُوسَى: «انْحَتْ لَكَ لَوْحَينِ مِنْ حَجَرٍ مِثْلَ اللَّوْحَينِ الأَوَّلَيْنِ. فَأَكْتُبَ أَنَا عَليْهِمَا الْكَلِمَاتِ الَّتِي دَوَّنْتُهَا عَلَى اللَّوْحَينِ الأَوَّلَيْنِ اللَّذَيْنِ كَسَرْتَهُمَا. 2وَتَأَهَّبْ فِي الصَّبَاحِ ثُمَّ اصْعَدْ إِلَى جَبَلِ سِينَاءَ، وَامْثُلْ أَمَامِي هُنَاكَ عَلَى قِمَّةِ الجَبَلِ. 3وَلاَ يَصْعَدْ مَعْكَ أَحَدٌ، وَلاَ يُشَاهَدْ عَلَى الجَبَلِ إِنْسَانٌ، وَلاَ تَرْعَ الْغَنَمُ أَيْضاً وَالْبَقَرُ بِاتِّجَاهِ هَذَا الجَبَلِ». 4فَنَحَتَ مُوسَى لَوْحَيْنِ مِنْ حَجَرٍ مُمَاثِلَيْنِ لِلأَوَّلَيْنِ، وَبَكَّرَ فِي الصَّبَاحِ وَصَعِدَ إِلَى جَبَلِ سِينَاءَ حَسَبَ أَمْرِ الرَّبِّ.
[ 1Now the LORD said to Moses, "Cut out for yourself two stone tablets like the former ones, and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the former tablets which you shattered.
2"So be ready by morning, and come up in the morning to Mount Sinai, and present yourself there to Me on the top of the mountain.
3")No man is to come up with you, nor let any man be seen anywhere on the mountain; even the flocks and the herds may not graze in front of that mountain."
4 So he cut out two stone tablets like the former ones, and Moses rose up early in the morning and went up to Mount Sinai, as the LORD had commanded him, and he took two stone tablets in his hand.]
It was stated in the glossary of the Holy Book that the most ancient manuسؤق هحفs of the Old Testament dates back from the sixth to the tenth centuries A.D i.e.1300 years after the death of our mater Moses peace Be Upon Him and there is no single papyrus written by Moses handwriting while the pharaohs were wiser in maintaining their writings. However, the Lord of the Old Testament could not manage to find a proper way for Moses to follow in order to maintain his writing.
Hence, we have no single evidence confirming that what was scribed in the Old Testament was what Moses scribed by his own hand.
It is known that the Orthodox and Catholics believe that the so called Holy Book contains 73 books- 46 in the Old Testament- 27 in the New Testament containing the Apocrypha books as legitimate ones, while there are disagreements among them concerning some books. On the other hand, the Protestant reject approving these superstitions. Thus, their so called Holy Book contains 66 book only. The Jews do not approve of the illegal books attached to the Old Testament. There is a small sect which live in Naples and they have their own Holy Book which includes only the first Pentateuch, Taurat. This sect lives in this area since very ancient times and they have never left. The group believes that their book dates to the prophet Moses. The Samarian te xt of this Pentateuch differs from the Hebrew te xt and the seventieth te xt because the Jews knew that Christianity distorted some of the writings of their Holy Book(originally distorted) in order to prove by lying the prophecy of Joshua’s appearance through them.
I do not report this to you in order to justify a certain situation or to prove through it revealing the fact of the Islamic disbelief in the Old Testament (named Taurat) in the hands of the Jews and their followers the people of the Cross. No.
No, I want to reveal to you the state of corruption in which Christianity resides before Judaism.
Almighty God explained for us the form of Taurat completely by saying:
قال تعالى :
نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقاً لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَأَنزَلَ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالإِنجِيلَ
[آل عمران3
{It is He who has sent down the Book (the Qur’an) to you (Mohammed PBUH) with truth, confirming what came before it. And He sent down the taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)}
(Surat Al Emran- verse No.3)
Here we must turn to the fact the God said about Qur’an “ نزلsent down” and “أنزل “ about the Taurat and the Bible. The hamza ء was used for ***** and almighty God convened Taurat and Bible in their being sent down. This reveals that the Taurat and Bible were sent down by God at one time, as for the Holy Qur’an God sent it down in twenty-three years prophesying and convenient for the events that emerged in the real life of Muslims. Al-Shaarawy
Therefore, the Taurat was sent down to our master Moses Peace Be Upon Him by God to whom all might and glory belong at one time and not as it is understood in the Christian belief.
We conclude this explanation by a final point which is the Old Testament language and the differences of the con tent of the Holy Book among Christian sects.
Westm. Leningard Codex
WLC Consonants/ Vowels
Modern Hebrew
Aleppo Codex
http://s c r i p t uret e x t.com/1_kings/13-32.htm
These are four Hebrew versions of the Old Testament; hence, where is the version by which the Old Testament was scribed?
Through our previous discussion, we recognized that there are substantial differences of the con tent of the Old Testament among the Christian sects, then what is the name of that Christian sect which holds the version that all Christian sects agreed upon?
We now turn to the Bible.
We mentioned before that God to Whom all might and glory belong asserted that He sent down to the Christ PBUH the Bible at one time.
قال تعالى :
نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقاً لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَأَنزَلَ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالإِنجِيلَ
[آل عمران3
{It is He who has sent down the Book (the Qur’an) to you (Mohammed PBUH) with truth, confirming what came before it. And He sent down the taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)}
(Surat Al Emran- verse No.3)
The explanation I stated concerning the Taurat conforms completely to the Bible as it was sent at one time to our master Isa (Jesus) PBUH.
Before I discuss Joshua’s sayings in the four gospels I would like to announce that I do not take these te xts which I mentioned as evidence or proof for me. Rather, I mean to reveal to the reader that what the people of the cross, followers of the Jews, claim against the Qur’an is false and they are all mere lies and sayings without any grounds of verity and the con tents of the so called Holy Bookcannot conform to what was stated in Qur’an concerning Torah and Bible; in addition, Qur’an is innocent of this fallacy and the false claims.
In the four Gospels, it was mentioned Joshua’s(who is Isa, Jesus) gospel and the people of the cross try to consider them as one person by lying when they only discuss Qur’an:
Gospel of Mathew 13:26مت 26:13
الحق اقول لكم حيثما يكرز بهذا الانجيل في كل العالم يخبر ايضا بما فعلته هذه تذكارا لها
The truth I tell you whenever this gospel be in the whole world, it tells also what this did as a reminder of it.
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عضو شرفي
They said that Joshua’s saying (the Bible) is not meant by it a book but a prophecy. The word Bible is Greek which means good news or pleasant prophecy. It announces to us the salvation prophecy which the Christ brought and present to us the bibliography of the Christ (his life, teachings, miracles, death and resurrection, his second coming). It is important to understand that the Christ did not write a book and no book was sent down to him. Revelation in Christianity does not mean that a book existed with God and He sent it down. God does not have languages and letters. However, the spirit of God dominate the scriber and leads him so that he writes to us the message which God wants to sent to us and protects him in what he writes employing a style, a language and the culture of the scriber. (The New Testament (the Bible), Peter II 1:2) source: arabicbible website… ended
Let’s analyze this serious talking which suggests only one thing which is grave stupidity.
Firstly: the paragraph which was mentioned in Mathew Gospel says(Mathew 13 :26 … it tells also what this did as a reminder of it). These words reveal to us that there is no relation between the salvation prophecy and the bible for his saying (also what this did). Thus, there are two points which are declaration of the bible and (what it did) and there is (areminder)… and his saying “what this did) may suggest miracles, his bibliography not of the crucifixion. His saying (what this did) whose form is past which happened and finished and not in the future tense.
Secondly: the prophecy! All the events do not have any prophecy at all because the linguistic meaning of the word ‘prophecy’ is that it is a pleasant joyful news of an event that will come in a next time. In other words, when the angel comes to Maryam (Mary) to announce to her the coming of her newborn, but if the delivery happened, the prophecy would become news.
Thus, the words: salvation prophecy which the Christ brought is a wrong form because after the crucifixion the event is considered “a news” and not a prophecy. The prophecy "بشارة"comes from the word "بشرى"which means happy news. Then is what happened in the crucifixion is considered happy news? Were the people of the cross, followers of the Jews, cheering, applauding and smiling during watching the movie Pains of the Christ?
If the crucifixion is prophecy, then what would we call a wedding? A mourning!
If Joshua’s words are intended as a prophecy, not a book, why then the writings of ٍST Luke, Mathew, ST John, and ST Mark were called gospels? Isn’t the word gospel a prophecy and not a book?
The major problem is their saying : God has no languages and letters.
Does this sound like rational people talking? Well… it was stated in the Exodus that God wrote the plates by his finger… what was the language and letters God used on these plates?
خروج 31: 18
ثم اعطى موسى عند فراغه من الكلام معه في جبل سيناء لوحي الشهادة لوحي حجر مكتوبين باصبع الله
Exodus 31:18
Then He gave Moses when he finished talking with him on the Mountain of Sinai for the testimony revelation two stone plates written by the finger of the Lord
Imagine with me my honoured brothers the amount of lying and fallacy of a false declaration and how these people dared in providing the reader with lies.
At the end they said :however the spirit of the Lord prevails on the scriber and guides him so he writes to us the message that God wishes to send to us and he protects him in what he writes employing the style, language and the culture of the scriber… ended
I do not know how God protect a felon so that the spirit of God prevails on him at daytime so he writes the message, then the spirit of God dominates on him and he commits adultery in the evening?
فحلَ روحُ الرّبِّ على داوُدَ مِنْ ذلِكَ اليومِ فصاعِدًا (سفر صموئيل الأول 16:13) ........ وَفِي إِحْدَى الأُمْسِيَاتِ نَهَضَ دَاوُدُ عَنْ سَرِيرِهِ وَأَخَذَ يَتَمَشَّى عَلَى سَطْحِ قَصْرِهِ، فَشَاهَدَ امْرَأَةً ذَاتَ جَمَالٍ أَخَّاذٍ تَسْتَحِمُّ. فَأَرْسَلَ دَاوُدُ مَنْ يَتَحَرَّى عَنْهَا. فَأَبْلَغَهُ أَحَدُهُمْ: «هَذِهِ بَثْشَبَعُ بِنْتُ أَلِيعَامَ زَوْجَةُ أُورِيَّا الْحِثِّيِّ»،4فَبَعَثَ دَاوُدُ يَسْتَدْعِيهَا. فَأَقْبَلَتْ إِلَيْهِ وَضَاجَعَهَا إِذْ كَانَتْ قَدْ تَطَهَّرَتْ مِنْ طَمْثِهَا، ثُمَّ رَجَعَتْ إِلَى بَيْتِهَا. وَحَمَلَتِ الْمَرْأَةُ فَأَرْسَلَتْ تُبَلِّغُ دَاوُدَ بِذَلِكَ.
The spirit of God prevailed from that day on (Samuel I 13:16) … in an evening, Dawood got up from his bed and started walking on the roof of his palace, so he saw an extremely attractive woman bathing. So Dawood sent someone to investigate her, and someone told him: this is Betchbaa daughter of Alyaam, wife of Euria AlHethy. Dawood summoned her and she came to him and he made love to her as she had already finished her menstruation. Then hse returned home. The woman became pregnant and she sent someone to tell Dawood about it. (Samuel II 2:11)
Dawood Peace Be Upon Him is innocent of what was attributed to him in fallacy by the Bible.
How can you confide or trust the writing of Dawood? Impossible… if the marriage of our master Mohammed PBUH was an honored natural one and they made it a suspicion and attack of Islam, how about an adulterer as was said about Dawood, Lout, Soliman and Joshua when the prostitutes massaged thoroughly his body with expensive perfume? Put under the words “his body” a million line of bright red.
Apply the same measurement to all the prophets of the Bible as a theologian whose name was George Parsoum said that it is known of the false prophets “sophism prophetic ecstasy” and “a hired man by the King”. Ecstasy inflicted both Ezekiel and Achaia. As for these hired by the king to prophesy were Samuel, Nathan and Amos. Thus, Ezekiel, Achaia, Samuel, Nathan and Amos are false prophets.
Source: arabsforchrist website under the subject :axis of doubt”
I have shown before the problems that affected the New Testament concerning the manuscr ipts and what was stated in the glossary of the Holy Book as well as the Christian websites in addition to the loss of the original manuscr ipts scribed by the disciples hands and the scribed manuscr ipts have mistakes due to scribing… etc.
The New Testament have Greek origins such as:
Westcott-Hort
Byzantine/Majority t e x t
Greek and KJV + Strong's
t e x tus Receptus
Tischendorf 8th Edition
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Hence the original versions of the New Testament are five Greek versions, so which versions are acknowledged by all Christian sects.
They said that the reason in the multiplicity of the Greek versions is the updates which emerged to the Greek language!!!how I wonder, do the words of God have updates? Have you heard that the Arabic language by which the Qur’an was sent down change its grammatical rules and vocabulary as kind of updating in order to correspond to the age?!
Each Christian sect has its own book for the New Testament, while there are differences in the te xts among Christian sects.
For example, in Mathew 19:9 (who marries a divorced commits adultery)and the paragraph of Mathew 18:11 (because the son of man came to salvage who had been destroyed) and the message of John I version 5:7 (the three witnesses) the message of John I 5:7 (those who witness in the sky are three: the father, the word, the Holy spirit and these three are one) Tiimothas 3:16 (God has emerged in the body and got purified in the spirit)… these paragraphs do not exist in the Catholic version.
Then what is the name of the Christian sect agreed upon among all Christian sects?
After all I have mentioned about of both the Old Testament and the New Testament, we find that there is no close or far conformity to the Torah and the Bible mentioned in Qur’an. How William Campbell claim that the Qur’an referred to the Holy Book while the Qur;an did not mention anything named the Holy Book. rather, the Qur’an talked about the Torah and the Bible were sent down to Moses and Jesus Peace Be upon them at one time.
The last evidence is the Qur’an did not let us run after a mirage but it indicated the con tent of Torah and Bible so it said:
God Almighty said:قال تعالى :
الَّذِينَ يَتَّبِعُونَ الرَّسُولَ النَّبِيَّ الأُمِّيَّ الَّذِي يَجِدُونَهُ مَكْتُوبًا عِندَهُمْ فِي التَّوْرَاةِ وَالإِنْجِيلِ يَأْمُرُهُم بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَيَنْهَاهُمْ عَنِ الْمُنكَرِ وَيُحِلُّ لَهُمُ الطَّيِّبَاتِ وَيُحَرِّمُ عَلَيْهِمُ الْخَبَآئِثَ وَيَضَعُ عَنْهُمْ إِصْرَهُمْ وَالأَغْلاَلَ الَّتِي كَانَتْ عَلَيْهِمْ فَالَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ بِهِ وَعَزَّرُوهُ وَنَصَرُوهُ وَاتَّبَعُواْ النُّورَ الَّذِيَ أُنزِلَ مَعَهُ أُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ
[الأعراف157]
{Those who follow the messenger, the prophet who can neither read nor write (I.e. Muhammed PBUH) whom they find written with them in the Torah and the injeel (Bible) he commands them for Al-Maruf (Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained); and forbids them from Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief, polytheism of all kinds, and all that Islam has forbidden); he allows them as lawful Al-Tayyibat (i.e. all good and lawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods), and prohibits them as unlawful Al-Khaba’ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons and foods), he releases them from their heavy burdens (of Allah’s covenant with the children of Israel), and from the fetters (bindings) that were upon them. So those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, it is they who will be successful.}
(Al-Aaraf Surat – verse 157)
{And when Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said : “O children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Taurat (Torah) which came before me, and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad” but when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammed PBUH) came to them with clear proofs, they said: “ This is plain magic”}قال تعالى :
وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُم مُّصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَمُبَشِّرًا بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِن بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ فَلَمَّا جَاءهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالُوا هَذَا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ
[الصف6]
(Al-Saf Surat – verse 6)
So if William Campbell or the Vatican Pope or the pope of any other church come and say that the Qur’an witnessed for the Torah and Bible, I would tell him : Yes, the Qur’an witnessed for the Torah and Bible which mentioned the prophecy of the messenger PBUH as was stated in Al-Aaraf Surat- verse 57 as well Al-Saf Surat – verse 6. then if your book which was called Holy Book contains the above-mentioned concerning the prophecy of the messenger PBUH, I will raise the hat for him and acknowledge it. However, if you were unable to extract this prophecy, it is better for you to distribute the papers of this Bible to the closest ترمس seller to benefit by it due to the rise of the papers prices which hinders him in earning his living by selling his commodity.
Because when you simply quote the testimony of Qur’an to Torah and Bible, you have first to identify the characteristics of this Torah and this Bible as God described them in Qur’an firstly because (any ******** object to his falsity by a true evidence, it will become a proof against him not for him). After that, they witnessed all verses, no rational person can quote the Qur’an for an ambigious book and claim that this book is attributed to his belief and later be shocked when he hears that there are other evidence that condemn him in case of his quoting this book and he has no evidence to refute this condemnation. The big dilemma is that the Christian sects were not united concerning a single Holy Book that contains a fixed number of books. These books contain a single con tent that cannot be argued or disagreed upon. Rather, each of them has its own book and it says that the Holy Book is not distorted and cannot be altered and when and where it was distorted and where the original version is… etc because of immoral words. However, if a te xtual comparison is drawn between his book and the book of another sect, he will find heresies in distortion did not occur in the books and magazines of playboy before the volumes of Tan Tan and wonderful Faraveron.
Add to this that the conclusion and conclusion of Job Book were written in Arabic as the website of bishop Tekla indicated under the completion of Ester Book. where are the manuscr ipts you have and were written in Arabic? The surprising thing is that I referred to the Arabic versions such as a translation the Life Book, translation of the Catholic and the common translation and the Protestant translation which the Orthodox sect depend on, and I found that there are many differences among them and others and I did not find them agreed upon a single unified Arabic while the original of the introduction and conclusion of Job Book were written in Arabic.
Did William Campbell announce to us the name of the sect from which we will conform its Holy Book to the Qur’an while this book must be the book acknowledged by all Christian sects at the level of the world or he will try to play around in order to fill in a subject with words which have no grounds of validity?
We will turn now to see William Campbell and how he quoted the Qur’an.
William Campbell says:
Dr. Dawoud Rahber 1 says: the chairman of the Urdu and Pakistani studies at the University of Ankara in Turkey (1956 -1959): if we wish to lay a basis for Islamic Jurisdiction and Qur’anic interpretation, the first basis for this study must be knowing what the messenger and his companions within their historical evidence). Then he continues to say that interpreters of Quran did not link nor compare the stated verses concerning a single subject before they write their own interpretations. He provided a example from Al-Baidawy’s interpretation of the statement الأرض و السماء (the earth and the sky)when he said that Al-Baidawy said the Earth came first because when you climb you ascend from down upward.
Firstly: I read for Al-Baidawy and did not find these words.
Secondly: William Campbell’s saying that Imam Al-Baidawy said: because when you climb, you ascend from down upward proves that all that was mentioned against Al-Baidawy have lies and frauds, because his saying: ascend from down upward means that there is a top to ascend to and he cannot ascend to nothing and this is what was stated in Al-Baqra surat, for God to whom all might and glory belong says:
{He is Who created for you all that is on earth. Then He rose over (Istawa) towards the heaven and made them seven heavens and He is the All-Knower of everything}هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ لَكُم مَّا فِي الأَرْضِ جَمِيعًا ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى إِلَى السَّمَاء فَسَوَّاهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ
[البقرة29]
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How would God rise over towards the heaven without the existence of heaven? This is as we say: the king went to sit on his throne; therefore, the throne did exist in order that the king may sit on it
This makes us turn to God to whom might and glory belong saying:
{Then He rose over towards the heaven and it was smoke}ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى إِلَى السَّمَاء وَهِيَ دُخَانٌ
[الصف11] .
(Surat Al-Saf- verse No. 11)
Thus, there existed a heaven (sky) before the creation of Earth.
* Then William Campbell starts quoting Qur’anic verses testifying to the verity of Torah at the time of Christ.
1) (يَا يَحْيَى خُذِ الْكِتَابَ بِقُوَّةٍ وَآتَيْنَاهُ الْحُكْمَ صَبِيّاً). سورة مريم 19:12
{(It was said to his son): “O Yahya (John) Hold fast the scr ipture (the Taurat i.e. Torah).” And We gave him wisdom while yet a child}
(Surat Maryam 12:19)
2) (وَيُعَلِّمُهُ (الله) الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنْجِيلَ) (سورة آل عِمران 3:48)
{And He (Allah) will teach him [Isa(Jesus)} the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the sunnah, the faultless speech of the prophets, wisdom), (and) the Torah and the Gospel.}
{And Maryam (Mary), the daughter of Imran ……she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and His scr iptures.(Surat Al-Ameran 3:48)
3) (وَمَرْيَمَ ابْنَةَ عِمْرَانَ... صَدَّقَتْ بِكَلِمَاتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِ). (سورة التحريم 66:12
{“ I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I design for you out of clay, a figure like that of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah’s permission; and I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by Allah’s leave. And I inform you of what you eat, and what you store in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for you, if you believe. And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Taurat (Torah), and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you….}(Surat Al-Tahreem 12:66)
4) (أَنِّي قَدْ جِئْتُكُم... وَمُصَدِّقًا لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَلِأُحِلَّ لَكُمْ بَعْضَ الَّذِي حُرِّمَ عَلَيْكُمْ) (سورة آل عمران 3:49 و50)
{And (remember) when Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) said: “O children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Taurat (Torah) which came before me.}(Surat Al-Ameran 3:49 & 50)
4) (وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُمْ مُصَدِّقاً لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاة) (سورة الصف 61:6)
(Surat El-Saf 61:6)
{And in their footsteps, We sent Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), confirming the Taurat (Torah) that had come before him, and We gave him the Injeel (Gospel), in which was guidance and light and confirmation of the Taurat (Torah) that had come before it, a guidance and an admonition for Al-Muttaqun (the pious)}5) (وَقَفَّيْنَا عَلَى آثَارِهِمْ بِعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ مُصَدِّقاً لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَآتَيْنَاهُ الْإِنْجِيلَ فِيهِهـُدًى وَنُورٌ وَمُصَدِّقاً لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَهُدًى وَمَوْعِظَةً لِلْمُتَّقِينَ) (سورة المائدة 5:46)
(Surat Al-Maida)
{(Remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection), “OIsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ! Remember My favour to you and to your mother when I supported you with Ruh-ul-Qudus [Jibril (Gabriel)] so that you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and when I taught you writing, Al-Hikmah (the power of understanding), the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)}6) (إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ اذْكُرْ نِعْمَتِي عَلَيْكَ وَعَلَى وَالِدَتِكَ إِذْ أَيَّدْتُكَ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ تُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ فِي الْمَهْدِ وَكَهْلاً وَإِذْ عَلَّمْتُكَ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنْجِيلَ) (سورة المائدة 110)
(Surat Al-Maida- verse 110)
I will here present a single important point that answers William Campbell and proves that he is crook and a liar because he ignorantly chooses what he likes and concealed the right which discloses truth. I will not get a verse which was not mentioned; rather, I will continue a verse which William Campbell amputated its other half which would destroy his lies and fraud.
Let’s look at the verse No. 4, which says:
{And (remember) when Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) said: “O children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Taurat (Torah) which came before me.}4) (وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُمْ مُصَدِّقاً لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاة) (سورة الصف 61:6)
(Surat El-Saf 61:6)
Where is the rest of the verse? Unfortunately, William Campbell the doctor of donkeys reveals to us his lies.
The whole verse says:
{And (remember) when Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) said: “O children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Taurat (Torah) which came before me.}وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُم مُّصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ
He stopped here, but look at the rest of the verse
{And giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad” but when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammed PBUH) came to them with clear proofs, they said: “ This is plain magic”}وَمُبَشِّرًا بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِن بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ فَلَمَّا جَاءهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالُوا هَذَا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ (6الصف)
(Al-Saf Surat – verse 6)
Thus, the Torah and Gospel which the Qur’an testified for them have the prophecy which the Christ witnessed for it by saying:
وَمُبَشِّرًا بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِن بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ
{And giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad”}
Do fraud, forgery and distortion used by William Campbell who calls himself doctor appear now?
* Then William Campbell moves on to another point: Qur’anic verses testify that pious Christians lived in the period between the Christ and Muhammed.
{(Remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection), “O Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ! Remember My favour to you and to your mother when I supported you with Ruh-ul-Qudus [Jibril (Gabriel)] so that you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and when I taught you writing, Al-Hikmah (the power of understanding), the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) …. And when I (Allah) revealed to Al-Howariyyun (the disciples) [of ‘Isa(Jesus)] to believe in Me and My Messenger, they said: “We believe, And bear witness that we are Muslims.”}1) (إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ اذْكُرْ نِعْمَتِي عَلَيْكَ... وَإِذْ عَلَّمْتُكَ الْكِتَابَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَالتَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنْجِيلَ... وَإِذْ أَوْحَيْتُ إِلَى الْحَوَارِيِّينَ (تلاميذ المسيح) أَنْ آمِنُوا بِي وَبِرَسُولِي (المسيح) قَالُوا آمَنَّا وَاشْهَدْ بِأَنَّنَا مُسْلِمُونَ (مستسلمون)) (سورة المائدة 5:110 و111)
{Then when ‘Isa (Jesus) came to know of their disbelief, he said:”Who will be my helpers in Allah’s cause?” Al-Howriyyun (the disciples) said:” We are the helpers of Allah; we believe in Allah, and bear witness that we are Muslims (I.e. we submit to Allah).”Our Lord! We believe in what You have sent down, and we follow the Messenger [Isa (Jesus)]; so rite us down among those who bear witness (to the truth i.e. none has the right to be worshipped but Allah).(Surat Al-Maida – verse 110 -111)
2) (فَلَمَّا أَحَسَّ عِيسَى مِنْهُمُ الْكُفْرَ قَالَ مَنْ أَنْصَارِي إِلَى اللَّهِ قَالَ الْحَوَارِيُّونَ نَحْنُ أَنْصَارُ اللَّهِ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَاشْهَدْ بِأَنَّا مُسْلِمُونَ (مستسلمون) رَبَّنَا آمَنَّا بِمَا أَنْزَلْتَ وَاتَّبَعْنَا الرَّسُولَ (المسيح)) (سورة آل عمران 3:52 و53)
(Surat Al-Emran 52 & 53)
3) (يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كُونُوا أَنْصَارَ اللَّهِ كَمَا قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ لِلْحَوَارِيِّينَ مَنْ أَنْصَارِي إِلَى اللَّهِ قَالَ الْحَوَارِيُّونَ نَحْنُ أَنْصَارُ اللَّهِ فَآمَنَتْ طَائِفَةٌ مِنْ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ وَكَفَرَتْ طَائِفَةٌ فَأَيَّدْنَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا عَلَى عَدُوِّهِمْ فَأَصْبَحُوا ظَاهِرِينَ) (سورة الصف 61:14)
{O you who believe! Be you helpers (in the cause) of Allah as said ‘Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), to the Howariyyun (the disciples): “Who are my helpers (in the cause) of Allah? “We are Allah’s helpers” (I.e. we will strive in His cause!). Then a group of the children of Israel believed and a group disbelieved. So We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, and they became the victorious (uppermost)}
{And indeed, We sent Nuh (Noah) and Ibrahim (Abraham), and placed in their offspring prophethood and scr ipture. And among them there are some who are guided; but many of them are fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah). Then we sent after them our Messengers, and We sent ‘Isa (Jesus) – son of Maryam (Mary), and gave him the Injeel (Gospel). And we ordained in the hearts of those who followed him compassion and mercy. But the monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them, but (they sought it) only to please Allah therewith, but they did not observe it with the right observance. So We gave those among them who believed their (due) reward; but many of them are Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah}(Surat Al-Saff- verse No. 14)
4) (وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا نُوحاً وَإِبْرَاهِيمَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي ذُرِّيَّتِهِمَا النُّبُوَّةَ وَالْكِتَابَ فَمِنْهُمْ مُهْتَدٍ وَكَثِيرٌ مِنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ ثُمَّ قَفَّيْنَا عَلَى آثَارِهِمْ بِرُسُلِنَا وَقَفَّيْنَا بِعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ وَآتَيْنَاهُ الْإِنْجِيلَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُ رَأْفَةً وَرَحْمَةً وَرَهْبَانِيَّةً ابْتَدَعُوهَا مَا كَتَبْنَاهَا عَلَيْهِمْ إِلاَّ ابْتِغَاءَ رِضْوَانِ اللَّهِ فَمَا رَعَوْهَا حَقَّ رِعَايَتِهَا فَآتَيْنَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِنْهُمْ أَجْرَهُمْ وَكَثِيرٌ مِنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ) (سورة الحديد 57:26 و27
(Surat Al-Hadid- verse No. 26 & 27)
Compare this to what was stated in Surat Al-Maida verse No. 82
A Mekkan Verse {( Remember) when the young men fled for refuge (from their disbelieving folk) to the cave. They said: “Our Lord! Bestow on us mercy from Yourself, and facilitate for us our affair in the right way!” And they stayed in their cave three hundred (solar) years, adding nine (for lunar years).}5) آية مكية (إِذْ أَوَى الْفِتْيَةُ إِلَى الْكَهْفِ فَقَالُوا رَبَّنَا آتِنَا مِنْ لَدُنْكَ رَحْمَةً وَهَيِّئْ لَنَا مِنْ أَمْرِنَا رَشَدا وَلَبِثُوا فِي كَهْفِهِمْ ثَلاَثَ مَائَةٍ سِنِينَ وَازْدَادُوا تِسْعاً). سورة الكهف 18:10 و25
(Surat Al-Kahf- Verse No. 10 & 25)
6) العصر المكي الأول (قُتِلَ أَصْحَابُ الْأُخْدُودِ النَّارِ ذَاتِ الْوَقُودِ إِذْهـُمْ عَلَيْهَا قُعُودٌ وَهُمْ عَلَى مَا يَفْعَلُونَ بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ شُهُودٌ وَمَا نَقَمُوا مِنْهُمْ إِلاَّ أَنْ يُؤْمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ الْعَزِيزِ الْحَمِيدِ الَّذِي لَهُ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَاللَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدٌ) (سورة البروج 85:4-9)
The first Mekkan Age { Cursed were the people of the Ditch (in the story of the Boy and the King).Of fire fed with fuel, when they sat by it (fire), And they witnessed what they were doing against the believers (i.e. burning them). And they had no fault except that they believed in Allah, the All-Mighty, worthy of all praise! To whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth! And Allah is witness over everything.}
(Surat Al-Burug- Verse No. 4-9)
Where are these Qur’anic verses which testify that there are pious Christians who lived in the period between the age of the Christ and Muhammed?
First, the Qur’an did not state a single Christian, but it talked about Al-Nasara i.e. Christians. The Christian admits that he is not nesrani and I have revealed this to you previously.
Secondly, the first verse proved that the declaration of the Islam of Al-Huwariyyun and this verifies that the Christ and other prophets and messengers brought Islam. If anyone denies this, then he should tell us what was the religion brought by our master Ibrahim, father of prophets. And what was the religion that he, his sons and grandsons (Eshaq, Ismail, Yousef, Yahoza and Fares… etc.) believed in?
Thirdly, the word Islam linguistically means submission to God, and this would get us away from the concept which William Campbell tries to conceal.
Therefore, we must apply the evidence which he called for from the very start of the subject.
We have about fourteen evidence, let’s take from them the following:
All-mighty God said:قال تعالى :
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ اتَّقُواْ اللّهَ حَقَّ تُقَاتِهِ وَلاَ تَمُوتُنَّ إِلاَّ وَأَنتُم مُّسْلِمُونَ
(آل عمران102)
{O you who believe! Fear Allah (by doing all that He has ordered and by abstaining from all that He has forbidden) as He should be feard. [Obey Him, be thankful to Him, and remember Him always], and die not except in a state of Islam [as Muslims 9with complete submission to Allah)}.
{And you (O Muhammed PBUH) cannot guide the blind from their straying; you can make to hear only those who believe in our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and have submitted to Allah in Islam (as Muslims).(Surat Al-Emran – Verse No. 102)
قال تعالى :
وَمَا أَنتَ بِهَادِي الْعُمْيِ عَن ضَلَالَتِهِمْ إِن تُسْمِعُ إِلَّا مَن يُؤْمِنُ بِآيَاتِنَا فَهُم مُّسْلِمُونَ
(الروم53)
(Surat Al-Rum- verse No. 53)
Through this evidence, we find that what is meant by the word مسلمونi..e.Muslims is the Islamic religion which all prophets and messengers brought.
As the Huwariyun (disciples) declared that they were Muslims, and you now quote this, so why the Christian did not say: “ I am among Muslims”? This is what the second item includes as the disciples asserted that they were Muslims.
Fourthly : as for the verse which was stated in the third item and which was copied from Al-Saff Surat, we find that William Campbell chose from the surat what he liked in order to prove his lies. However, he concealed the verse No. 6 which was included in the same surat where it states:
قال تعالى :
وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُم مُّصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَمُبَشِّرًا بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِن بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ فَلَمَّا جَاءَهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالُوا هَذَا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ
[الصف6]
{And when Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said : “O children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Taurat (Torah) which came before me, and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad” but when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammed PBUH) came to them with clear proofs, they said: “ This is plain magic”}
(Al-Saf Surat – verse 6)
By following the order of the verses we find that Al-Huwarriyun (the disciples) saying:
{“the Howariyyun (the disciples) said:We are Allah’s helpers” (I.e. we will strive in His cause!). Then a group of the children of Israel believed and a group disbelieved. So We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, and they became the victorious (uppermost)}"قَالَ الْحَوَارِيُّونَ نَحْنُ أَنْصَارُ اللَّهِ فَآمَنَتْ طَائِفَةٌ مِنْ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ .... فَأَيَّدْنَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا عَلَى عَدُوِّهِمْ فَأَصْبَحُوا ظَاهِرِينَ "
(Surat Al-Saff- verse No. 14)
So those who believed in the words of the Christ:
{And giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad”}وَمُبَشِّرًا بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِن بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ
Thus, God supported them and made them victorious.
Thus, the verse included in the fourth item and by comparing it to verse No. 82 of Surat Al-Maida… we say:
The verse No. 82 included in Surat Al-Maida is not complete except by the following verse No. 83. and this is what William cambell does not like because this verse would spoil his devilish plan.
قال تعالى :
لَتَجِدَنَّ أَشَدَّ النَّاسِ عَدَاوَةً لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُواْ وَلَتَجِدَنَّ أَقْرَبَهُمْ مَّوَدَّةً لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ الَّذِينَ قَالُواْ إِنَّا نَصَارَى ذَلِكَ بِأَنَّ مِنْهُمْ قِسِّيسِينَ وَرُهْبَانًا وَأَنَّهُمْ لاَ يَسْتَكْبِرُونَ - وَإِذَا سَمِعُواْ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَى الرَّسُولِ تَرَى أَعْيُنَهُمْ تَفِيضُ مِنَ الدَّمْعِ مِمَّا عَرَفُواْ مِنَ الْحَقِّ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا آمَنَّا فَاكْتُبْنَا مَعَ الشَّاهِدِينَ
[المائدة82-83]
{verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are Al-Mushrikun, and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: “ We are Christians.” That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud. And when they (who call themselves Christians) listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger (Muhammed PBUH) you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of the truth they have recognized. They say: Our Lord! We believe, so write us down among the witnesses.”}
(Surta Al-Maeida verse No. 82 -83)
وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا نُوحًا وَإِبْرَاهِيمَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي ذُرِّيَّتِهِمَا النُّبُوَّةَ وَالْكِتَابَ فَمِنْهُم مُّهْتَدٍ وَكَثِيرٌ مِّنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ - ثُمَّ قَفَّيْنَا عَلَى آثَارِهِم بِرُسُلِنَا وَقَفَّيْنَا بِعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ وَآتَيْنَاهُ الْإِنجِيلَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي قُلُوبِ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُ رَأْفَةً وَرَحْمَةً وَرَهْبَانِيَّةً ابْتَدَعُوهَا مَا كَتَبْنَاهَا عَلَيْهِمْ إِلَّا ابْتِغَاء رِضْوَانِ اللَّهِ فَمَا رَعَوْهَا حَقَّ رِعَايَتِهَا فَآتَيْنَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِنْهُمْ أَجْرَهُمْ وَكَثِيرٌ مِّنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ
[الحديد26-27]
{And indeed, We sent Nuh (Noah) and Ibrahim (Abraham), and placed in their offspring prophethood and scr ipture. And among them there are some who are guided; but many of them are fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah). Then we sent after them our Messengers, and We sent ‘Isa (Jesus) – son of Maryam (Mary), and gave him the Injeel (Gospel). And we ordained in the hearts of those who followed him compassion and mercy. But the monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them, but (they sought it) only to please Allah therewith, but they did not observe it with the right observance. So We gave those among them who believed their (due) reward; but many of them are Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah}
(Surat Al-Hadid- verse No. 26 & 27)
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عضو شرفي
First: what came in Al-Maida Surat is quite obvious after the addition of verse No. 83 which complete verse No. 82:
((وَإِذَا سَمِعُواْ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَى الرَّسُولِ تَرَى أَعْيُنَهُمْ تَفِيضُ مِنَ الدَّمْعِ مِمَّا عَرَفُواْ مِنَ الْحَقِّ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا آمَنَّا فَاكْتُبْنَا مَعَ الشَّاهِدِينَ))
And when they (who call themselves Christians) listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger (Muhammed PBUH) you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of the truth they have recognized. They say: Our Lord! We believe, so write us down among the witnesses.”}
Thus, where are are the priests and bishops whose their eyes are overflowing with tears when they listen to Qur’an which William Campbell hid? These priests and bishops who were in their states before they heard Qur’an; however, when they heard and knew the truth which the Christ told them about that after him a messenger will come whose name was Ahmad, their eyes overflowed with tears and they believed aas was stated in His saying:(Surta Al-Maeida verse No. 83)
"يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا آمَنَّا فَاكْتُبْنَا مَعَ الشَّاهِدِينَ"
‘They say: Our Lord! We believe, so write us down among the witnesses.”
Therefore, they believed and witnessed to Islam.
Secondly, as for what was stated in Surat Al-Hadid, the matter which more obvious and confirming on the message of our master Muhammed PBUH as stated in the verse:
وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا نُوحًا وَإِبْرَاهِيمَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي ذُرِّيَّتِهِمَا النُّبُوَّةَ
{And indeed, We sent Nuh (Noah) and Ibrahim (Abraham), and placed in their offspring prophethood}
Thus, His saying Noah and following it by Ibrahim and God confirmed that he placed in their offspring prophethood and our master Ismail is the son of Ibrahim, so God made the prophethood for him. If the people of the cross followers of the Jews denied that Ismail had no prophethood right, we say that God made prophethood for Ismail on the side of Noah his grandfather before prophethood belongs to him on the side of his father in His saying:
{And indeed, We sent Nuh (Noah) and Ibrahim (Abraham), and placed in their offspring prophethood}وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا نُوحًا وَإِبْرَاهِيمَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي ذُرِّيَّتِهِمَا النُّبُوَّةَ
Hence, the offspring of Ibrahim have origins that belong to Noah. Thus, Ismail is the gradson of Noah and has the prophethood right.
Then whatwas stated in Surat Al-Hadid is irrefutably and undoubtedly proven concerning Ismail’s being a prophet and he is the grandfather of the messenger PBUH. Hence, the familial origins of our master Muhammed PBUH go back to both his grandfathers Ibrahim and Noah Peace Be upon them. When God to whom almighty and glory belong speaks about the monasticism they invented, He reveals that there are among them those who believed in our master Muhammed PBUH and they became Muslims and they were few in numbers as was stated in His words:
فَآتَيْنَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِنْهُمْ أَجْرَهُمْ
{So We gave those among them who believed their (due) reward}
Hence, the Qur’an did not leave anyone without giving him his due right. Those who seek the truth of priests and bishops, believed in and were converted to Islam find that God to Whom almighty and glory belong knows what is in their hearts and knows that they will follow the messenger Ahmad prophesied by the Christ and will find that they were mentioned in Qur’an and the Qur’an acknowledged and recognized them and made them into ayat (verses) worshipped by their recitation and this great honour. However, وَكَثِيرٌ مِنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ
{but many of them are Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah)} and الفاسق i.e. rebellious, disobedient to Allah is the one who exceeds the limit of Allah almighty in what disobeys God. The disobedient person may progress through work while being adhering to the faith on the theoretical side. However, hypocrisy is among the aspects of disobedience; rather, it is the highest aspects because it stems from the faith.
Therefore, William Campbell writes through the interpretation of verses in falsity, so he says:
We learn from this verse that despite monasticism was not prescribed by God on them; however, they were pious believers… ended
While God to whom belongs might and glory belong confirmed in Qur’an that monasteries were disobedient by saying :وَكَثِيرٌ مِنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ
{but many of them are Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah)} because few of them of the followers of Isa (Jesus) son of Maryam Peace Be Upon Him became believers and declared their Islam as was stated by God To whom Glory and might belong:
فَآتَيْنَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِنْهُمْ أَجْرَهُمْ
{So We gave those among them who believed their (due) reward}
Then William Campbell presents to us the evidence of the verity of Qur’an: “وَرَهْبَانِيَّةً ابْتَدَعُوهَا مَا كَتَبْنَاهَا عَلَيْهِمْ”i.e.{But the monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them} by saying: monasticism system started in the fourth century A.D; however, there were solitary monasteries in the third century. Saint Antoniou organized monasticism in Egypt in 305 A.D. monasticism started in Sinai approximately at the same time… ended.
This is evidence that God did not prescribe monasticism to the followers of the Christ Isa (Jesus) son of Maryam and that it was a heresy which they invented (ابتدعوها) , every heresy is a waywardness and each waywardness is in hell.
Sixthly: William Campbell quotes the story of the people of the cave which was stated in the words of God to whom almighty and glory belong:
قال تعالى :
أَمْ حَسِبْتَ أَنَّ أَصْحَابَ الْكَهْفِ وَالرَّقِيمِ كَانُوا مِنْ آيَاتِنَا عَجَبًا {18/9} إِذْ أَوَى الْفِتْيَةُ إِلَى الْكَهْفِ فَقَالُوا رَبَّنَا آتِنَا مِن لَّدُنكَ رَحْمَةً وَهَيِّئْ لَنَا مِنْ أَمْرِنَا رَشَدًا {18/10} فَضَرَبْنَا عَلَى آذَانِهِمْ فِي الْكَهْفِ سِنِينَ عَدَدًا {18/11} ثُمَّ بَعَثْنَاهُمْ لِنَعْلَمَ أَيُّ الْحِزْبَيْنِ أَحْصَى لِمَا لَبِثُوا أَمَدًا {18/12} نَحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ نَبَأَهُم بِالْحَقِّ إِنَّهُمْ فِتْيَةٌ آمَنُوا بِرَبِّهِمْ وَزِدْنَاهُمْ هُدًى {18/13} وَرَبَطْنَا عَلَى قُلُوبِهِمْ إِذْ قَامُوا فَقَالُوا رَبُّنَا رَبُّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ لَن نَّدْعُوَ مِن دُونِهِ إِلَهًا لَقَدْ قُلْنَا إِذًا شَطَطًا {18/14} هَؤُلَاء قَوْمُنَا اتَّخَذُوا مِن دُونِهِ آلِهَةً لَّوْلَا يَأْتُونَ عَلَيْهِم بِسُلْطَانٍ بَيِّنٍ فَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَى عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا {18/15} .
{ Do you think that the people of the Cave and the Inscr iption (the news or the names of the people of the Cave) were a wonder among Our Signs? ( Remember) when the young men fled for refuge (from their disbelieving folk) to the cave. They said: “Our Lord! Bestow on us mercy from Yourself, and facilitate for us our affair in the right way!” Therefore, we covered up their (sense of) hearing (causing them to go in deep sleep) in the Cave for a number of years. Then we raised them up (from their sleep), that we might test which of the two parties was best at calculating the time period that they had tarried. We narrate unto you (O Muhammed PBUH) their story with truth: Truly they were young men who believed in their Lord (Allah), and We increased them in guidance. And We made their hearts firm and strong(with the light of faith in Allah and bestowed upon them patience to bear the separation of their kith and kin and dwellings) when they stood up and said: Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth, never shall we call upon any ilah (deity or god) other than Him; If we did, we should indeed have uttered an enormity in disbelief. These our people have taken for worship alihah (gods) other than Him (Allah). Why do they not bring for them a clear authority? And who does more wrong than he who invents a lie against Allah.}
(Surat Al-Kahf- verse No. 9 : 15)
We must first mention the origin of belief i.e. faith which the Qur’an discusses in order to differentiate between what William Campbell believes in and what the people of the Cave believed in.
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We must first mention the origin of belief i.e. faith which the Qur’an discusses in order to differentiate between what William Campbell believes in and what the people of the Cave believed in.
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Mercifulبِِسْمِ اللّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ
قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ - اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ - لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ - وَلَمْ يَكُن لَّهُ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌ .
Say (O Muhammed PBUH) :”He is Allah, (the) One. Allah-us-Samad i.e. the Self-Sufficient Master. Whom all creatures need, (He neither eats nor drinks). He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.”
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful(Surat Al-Ikhlas)
بِِسْمِ اللّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ
لَّقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَآلُواْ إِنَّ اللّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ قُلْ فَمَن يَمْلِكُ مِنَ اللّهِ شَيْئًا إِنْ أَرَادَ أَن يُهْلِكَ الْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ وَأُمَّهُ وَمَن فِي الأَرْضِ جَمِيعًا وَلِلّهِ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضِ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَاء وَاللّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ {المائدة/17}
{Surely, in disbelief are they who say that Allah is the Messiah (the Christ), son of Maryam (Mary). Say (O Muhammed PBUH): “Who then has the least power against Allah, if He were to destroy the Messiah, son of Maryam, his mother, and all those who are on the earth together?” and to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them. He creates what he wills. And Allah is Able to do all things.}
Thus, the faith which Almighty God announced in Quran is his worship and each person who worshipped the Messiah Jesus as God is a atheist. Hence, when we look at the verse, we find that Allah mentioned the word (المسيج) Messiah only and did not say: المسيح عيسي Jesus Christ because God to Whom almighty and glory belong knows that the people of the cross will distort his name of Isa (Jesus) to Yasoua (Joshua ). So God said: لَّقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَآلُواْ إِنَّ اللّهَ هُوَ الْمَسِيحُi.e. Surely, in disbelief are they who say that Allah is the Messiah (the Christ) because if the verse included the words (المسيح عيسي) the messiah Isa, a forger of the people of the cross, followers of Jews would tell us: We do not worship (المسيح عيسي) the messiah Isa, but we worship the Lord of Glory Joshua and your Qur’an erred, so God wanted to nullify their prete xt.
Thus, when the words of God Almighty said in Surat El-Kahf,
“نَحْنُ نَقُصُّ عَلَيْكَ نَبَأَهُم بِالْحَقِّ إِنَّهُمْ فِتْيَةٌ آمَنُوا بِرَبِّهِمْ وَزِدْنَاهُمْ هُدًى {18/13}”
We narrate unto you (O Muhammed PBUH) their story with truth: Truly they were young men who believed in their Lord (Allah), and We increased them in guidance.
By this, it becomes clear for us that the faith adopted by the People of the Cave is the same faith which Qur’an declared about it for Allah is not كلى i.e. total nor is He كل i.e. ‘every’ because He is “One: and not faith which churches follow its path which is worship of Joshua whose mother and relatives said about him that he is insane (Mark 21:3) as God (God forbids)
This applies to the sixth item to which William Campbell turned to when he quoted the story of the People of the Ditch:
قُتِلَ أَصْحَابُ الْأُخْدُودِ {85/4} النَّارِ ذَاتِ الْوَقُودِ {85/5} إِذْ هُمْ عَلَيْهَا قُعُودٌ {85/6} وَهُمْ عَلَى مَا يَفْعَلُونَ بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ شُهُودٌ {85/7} وَمَا نَقَمُوا مِنْهُمْ إِلَّا أَن يُؤْمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ الْعَزِيزِ الْحَمِيدِ {85/8} الَّذِي لَهُ مُلْكُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَاللَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدٌ {85/9}
{ Cursed were the people of the Ditch (in the story of the Boy and the King).Of fire fed with fuel, when they sat by it (fire), And they witnessed what they were doing against the believers (i.e. burning them). And they had no fault except that they believed in Allah, the All-Mighty, worthy of all praise! To whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth! And Allah is witness over everything.}
(Surat Al-Burug- Verse No. 4-9)
As William Campbell considered that the Qur’an witnessed that Christians are pious through the story of the People of the Ditch. However, as I stated before that the Qur’an did discuss only the Nasara and did not talk about the Christians as I aforementioned. The Qur’an asserted the worship of Allah the only One who is not Joshua and has no hypostases (God forbids). If Qur’an admitted that God is Joshua, then Christianity may convert Islam.
It was stated in Surat Al-Broug explanation of the faith of the people of the Ditch as asserted in Qur’an in general:
{And they had no fault except that they believed in Allah, the All-Mighty, worthy of all praise!}وَمَا نَقَمُوا مِنْهُمْ إِلَّا أَن يُؤْمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ الْعَزِيزِ الْحَمِيد
Does it make sense that the Qur’an indicates that God witnesses to the faith of the People of the Ditch because they worshipped Joshua.
Of course not.
Thus, these verses which William Campbel quotes actually condemn the Christian faith and are not a testimony for the followers of the cross and the church. However, these verses prove that the people of the Cross went astray from the right path and they are in the same rank as that of the atheists and polytheists at the same time.
* Now William Campbell moves to another point in which he says: qur’anic verses testifying that versions of Torah and Gospel existed and were true at the time of Muhammed.
1) (وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لَنْ نُؤْمِنَ بِهَذَا الْقُرْآنِ وَلاَ بِالَّذِي بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ (التوراة والإنجيل)) (سورة سبأ 34:31)
{And those who disbelieve say : “We believe not in this Qur’an nor in that which was before it (Torah and Gospel)}
(Surat Saba 34- verse No. 31)
2) (وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ هـُوَ الْحَقُّ مُصَدِّقاً لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ (التوراة والإنجيل)) (سورة فاطر 35:31)
{And what We have revealed to you (O Muhammed PBUH) of the Book (the Qur’an), it is the very truth [that you (Muhammed PBUH) and your followers must act on its instructions], confirming that which was (revealed) before it}
(Surat Fater No. 35- verse No. 31)
3) (وَمَا كَانَ هـَذَا الْقُرْآنُ أَنْ يُفْتَرَى مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ وَلَكِنْ تَصْدِيقَ الَّذِي بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَتَفْصِيلَ الْكِتَابِ لاَ رَيْبَ فِيهِ مِنْ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ). سورة يونس 10:37
{And this Qur’an is not such as could be ever produced by other than Allah (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation) which was before it (i.e. the Torah and the Gospel), and a full explanation of the Book (i.e. laws, decreed for mankind) – wherein there is no doubt- from the Lord of Alamin i.e. mankind, jinn, and all that exists}
(Surat Yunus No. 10- verse No. 37)
4) (مَا كَانَ (القرآن) حَدِيثاً يُفْتَرَى وَلَكِنْ تَصْدِيقَ الَّذِي بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وتَفْصِيلَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ وَهُدًى وَرَحْمَةً لِقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ) (سورة يوسف 12:111)
{Indeed in their stories, there is a lesson for men of understanding. It (the Qur’an) is not a forged statement but a confirmation of (Allah’s existing Books) which were before it [i.e. the Torah, the Gospel and the scr iptures of Allah] and a detailed explanation of everything and a guide and a mercy for the people who believe}
(Surat Yousuf No. 12- verse No. 111)
5) (ثُمَّ آتَيْنَا مُوسَى الْكِتَابَ تَمَاماً عَلَى الَّذِي أَحْسَنَ وَتَفْصِيلاً لِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ وَهُدىً وَرَحْمَةً لَعَلَّهُمْ بِلِقَاءِ رَبِّهِمْ يُؤْمِنُونَ وَهَذَا كِتَابٌ أَنْزَلْنَاهُ مُبَارَكٌ فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَاتَّقُوا لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ أَنْ تَقُولُوا إِنَّمَا أُنْزِلَ الْكِتَابُ عَلَى طَائِفَتَيْنِ مِنْ قَبْلِنَا وَإِنْ كُنَّا عَنْ دِرَاسَتِهِمْ لَغَافِلِينَ أَوْ تَقُولُوا لَوْ أَنَّا أُنْزِلَ عَلَيْنَا الْكِتَابُ لَكُنَّا أَهْدَى مِنْهُمْ) (سورة الأنعام 6:154-157)
{Then, We gave Moses the Book (the Torah), to complete (our favour) upon those who would do right, and explaining all things in detail and a guidance and a mercy that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord. And this is a blessed Book (the Qur’an) which we have sent down, so follow it and fear Allah, that you may receive mercy (i.e. be saved from the torment of Hell). Lest you (pagan Arabs) should say : “The Book was sent down only to two sects before us (the Jews and the Christians), and for our part, we were in fact unaware of what they studied.” Or lest you (pagan Arabs) should say:”If only the Book had been sent down to us, we would surely have been better guided than they (Jews and Christians).}
(Surat Al-An’am No. 6- verse No. 154 : 157)
6) ( أَلَمْ تَرَ (يا محمد) إِلَى الَّذِينَ يُجَادِلوُن فِي آيَاتِ اللَّهِ أَنَّى يُصْرَفُونَ الَّذِينَ كَذَّبُوا بِالْكِتَابِ وَبِمَا أَرْسَلْنَا بِهِ رُسُلَنَا فَسَوْفَ يَعْلَمُونَ إِذِ الْأَغْلاَلُ فِي أَعْنَاقِهِمْ وَالسَّلاَسِلُ يُسْحَبُونَ) (سورة غافر 40:69-71)
{See you (Muhammed PBUH) not those who dispute about the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses…etc) of Allah? How are they turning away (from the truth, [(i.e. Islamic Monotheism to the falsehood (i.e. polytheism)]? Those who deny the Book (this Qur’an), and that with which We sent Our Messengers, they will come to know when iron collars will be rounded over their necks, and the chains, they shall be dragged along.
(Surat Ghafir No. 40 – verse No. 69 :71)
7) (وَمِنْ قَبْلِهِ كِتَابُ مُوسَى إِمَاماً وَرَحْمَةً وَهَذَا كِتَابٌ مُصَدِّقٌ لِسَاناً عَرَبِيّاً لِيُنْذِرَ الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا وَبُشْرَى لِلْمُحْسِنِينَ). سورة الأحقاف 46:12
{And before this was the scr ipture of Moses as a guide and a mercy. And this is a confirming Book (the Qur’an)in the Arabic language, to warn those who do wrong, and as glad tidings to the Muhsinin (i.e. good doers)}
{And (remember) when We sent towards you (Muhammed PBUH) a group (three to ten persons) of the Jinn, quietly listening to the Qur’an. When they stood in the presence thereof, they said: “Listen in silence !” And when it was finished, they returned to tehir people, as warners. They said : “O our people! Verily, we have heard a Book(this Qur’an) sent down after Moses, confirming what came before it: it guides to the truth and to the Straight Path (i.e. Islam}(Surat Al-Ahqaf No. 46 – verse No. 12)
8) (وَإِذْ صَرَفْنَا إِلَيْكَ نَفَراً مِنَ الْجِنِّ يَسْتَمِعُونَ الْقُرْآنَ فَلَمَّا حَضَرُوهُ قَالُوا أَنْصِتُوا فَلَمَّا قُضِيَ وَلَّوْا إِلَى قَوْمِهِمْ مُنْذِرِينَ قَالُوا يَا قَوْمَنَا إِنَّا سَمِعْنَا كِتَاباً أُنْزِلَ مِنْ بَعْدِ مُوسَى مُصَدِّقاً لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ (التوراة) يَهْدِي إِلَى الْحَقِّ وَإِلَى طَرِيقٍ مُسْتَقِيمٍ) (سورة الأحقاف 46:29 و30)
(Surat Al-Ahqaf No. 46- verse No. 29 & 30)
9) (وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ آمِنُوا بِمَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ قَالُوا نُؤْمِنُ بِمَا أُنْزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَيَكْفُرُونَ بِمَا وَرَاءَهُ وَهُوَ الْحَقُّ مُصَدِّقاً لِمَا مَعَهُمْ (التوراة)) (سورة البقرة 2:91)
{And when it is said to them (the Jews) “Believe in what Allah has sent down,” they say, “We believe in what was sent down to us.” And they disbelieve in that which came after it, while it is the truth confirming what is with them. }
(Surat Al-Baqra No. 2- verse No. 91)
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10) (نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقاً لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَأَنْزَلَ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنْجِيلَ مِنْ قَبْلُ هـُدىً لِلنَّاسِ) (سورة آل عمران 3:3 و4)
{It is He who has sent down the Book (the Qur’an) to you (Muhammed PBUH) with truth, confirming what came before it. And He sent down the Torah and the Gospel, Aforetime, as a guidance to mankind.}
(Surat Al-Emran No. 3- verse No. 3 &4)
11) (لَكِنِ الرَّاسِخُونَ فِي الْعِلْمِ مِنْهُمْ (من اليهود) وَالْمُؤْمِنُونَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِمَا أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ (يا محمد) وَمَا أُنْزِلَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ... إِنَّا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ كَمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَى نُوحٍ وَالنَّبِيِّينَ مِنْ بَعْدِهِ وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَى إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعَقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَعِيسَى وَأَيُّوبَ وَيُونُسَ وَهَارُونَ وَسُلَيْمَانَ وَآتَيْنَا دَاوُدَ زَبُوراً) (سورة النساء 4:162 و163)
{But those among them who are well-grounded in knowledge(of the Jews) and the believers, believe in what has been sent down to you (Muhammed PBUH), and what was sent down before you…. Verily, We have sent the revelation to you (O Muhammed PBUH) as we sent the revelation to Noah and the prophets after him; We (also) sent the revelation to Ibrahim, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Asbat (the offspring of the twelve sons of Jacob, Isa (Jesus), Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon and to David We gave the Psalms.}
(Surat Al-Nisa No. 4- verse No. 162 &163)
12) (إِنَّ اللَّهَ اشْتَرَى مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَنْفُسَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ بِأَنَّ لَهُمُ الجَنَّةَ يُقَاتِلُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ فَيَقْتُلُونَ وَيُقْتَلُونَ وَعْداً عَلَيْهِ حَقّاً فِي التَّوْرَاةِ وَالْإِنْجِيلِ وَالْقُرْآنِ وَمَنْ أَوْفَى بِعَهْدِهِ مِنَ اللَّهِ؟) (سورة التوبة 9:111)
{Verily, Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties for (the price) that theirs shall be the paradise. They fight in Allah’s cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah?}
(Surat Al-Tauba No. 9- verse No. 111)
13) (وَأَنْزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ (يا محمد) الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقاً لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ (التوراة والإنجيل) وَمُهَيْمِناً عَلَيْهِ) (سورة المائدة 5:48)
{ And We have sent down to you (O Muhammed PBUH) the Book (this Qur’an in truth, confirming the scr ipture that came before it and a trustworthy in highness and a witness over it (old scr iptures)}
Does stupidity reach its highest levels with William Campbell? Does it make sense that William Campbell who spent great sums of money in order to produce this book did not understand the meaning of these verses?(Surat Al-Maida No. 5- verse No. 48)
William Campbell said before: Mr. Solomon says:
(Words are not used in isolation from each other as each word s affected by its accompanying other words surrounding it in the sentence, paragraph or the whole te xt). And he says:( in order to study all evidence we sometimes need to collect sentences from other chapters, or all clues stated in the whole book). Moreover, he adds: (there is only way to determine the meaning of a word used at the time of the Bible (Gospel) or Qur’an which is to bring models of the usages or applications of this word in writings dating back to the first century A.D or the first century A.H). … the first chapter.
According to what William Campbell has provided to us we must follow the path which William Campbell himself did not adhere to.
The thirteen verses which William Campbell quoted for us prove two points:
(1) Qur’an was sent down by Allah
(2) The Torah and the Gospel witnessed for Qur’an and this confirms the fact that the prophecy of the messenger is included in them.
It was stated about Qortoby in the interpretation of the verse (8/5571): the people of the book (Jews and Christians) said to polytheists that the descr iption of Muhammed is included in our book (Torah and Gospel) so aks him. When they asked him, the people of the book approved him. So the polytheists said: we will not believe in this Qur’an nor what was sent down before it of Torah and Gospel [(because they have the prophecy (glad tidings) of the Messenger of Allah PBUH)]; rather, we will disbelieve of them all.
When we apply the system of evidence which William Campbell calls for in order to know what is Torah and Gospel in the eyes of Qur’an, we find that the Qur’an did not mention their con tent in the prophecy of the Messenger PBUH by the tongue of the messiah Isan, son of Maryam Peace Be Upon Him as in the words of Allah Allmighty:
{And when Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said : “O children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming the Taurat (Torah) which came before me, and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad” but when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammed PBUH) came to them with clear proofs, they said: “ This is plain magic”}قال تعالى :
وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُم مُّصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَمُبَشِّرًا بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِن بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ فَلَمَّا جَاءهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالُوا هَذَا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ
(الصف6)
(Al-Saf Surat – verse 6)
Why did William Campbell hide the evidence which he called for in order to know the Torah and Bible in the eyes of Qur’an? It is misleading, lying and forgery.
Is William Campbell ignorant that any misleader objects to his falsity by a valid evidence that would become a proof against him not for him?
William Campbell cited several verses which they all prove the message of Islam among them, almighty God said:
(وَأَنْزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ (يا محمد) الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقاً لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ (التوراة والإنجيل) وَمُهَيْمِناً عَلَيْهِ) (سورة المائدة 5:48)
{ And We have sent down to you (O Muhammed PBUH) the Book (this Qur’an in truth, confirming the scr ipture that came before it and a trustworthy in highness and a witness over it (old scr iptures)}
(Surat Al-Maida No. 5- verse No. 48)
The Qur’an came as comprehensive and dominating the previous scr iptures or books and it includes a narration of all that happened of physical miracles.
Does the word scr ipture as stated in Surat Al-Maida – verse No. 48 means the Torah and Gospel?
We say that the book or scr ipture refers to all that was sent down by God to the messengers such as the scr iptures of Ibrahim and the Psalms of David, the Torah of Moses, and the Gospel of Jesus and these are all books. Hence they were called "أهل الكتاب" i.e. the people of the Book.
However, if the word الكتاب i.e. the book with a definite article الــ i.e. the it does not refer except for Qur’an because it was sent as a finale book and dominating on other books or scr iptures as Imam Al-Shaarawy.
Therefore, who told him that the book الكتاب i.e. scr ipture is meant for torah and Gospel only?
Oh How I wonder! This reminds me of the drug dealer who lost a briefcase full of checks, money and drugs. When the police officer asked him: is this your briefcase? The dealer said: No. the money and the checks belong to me, but I have nothing to do with the rest of the things in the briefcase.
O William Campbell! When you quote a verse, you should cite all of it and not merely a word that it contains.
When we look at the verses which William Campbell quoted, we find that he brought verses that came from God to whom almighty and glory belong confirming that all messages belong to Him and he inspired our master the messenger Muhammed PBUH as He did with Moses and Jesus Peace Be Upon Them as He said:
(لَكِنِ الرَّاسِخُونَ فِي الْعِلْمِ مِنْهُمْ (من اليهود) وَالْمُؤْمِنُونَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِمَا أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ (يا محمد) وَمَا أُنْزِلَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ... إِنَّا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ كَمَا أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَى نُوحٍ وَالنَّبِيِّينَ مِنْ بَعْدِهِ وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَى إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعَقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَعِيسَى وَأَيُّوبَ وَيُونُسَ وَهَارُونَ وَسُلَيْمَانَ وَآتَيْنَا دَاوُدَ زَبُوراً) (سورة النساء 4:162 و163)
{But those among them who are well-grounded in knowledge(of the Jews) and the believers, believe in what has been sent down to you (Muhammed PBUH), and what was sent down before you…. Verily, We have sent the revelation to you (O Muhammed PBUH) as we sent the revelation to Noah and the prophets after him; We (also) sent the revelation to Ibrahim, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Asbat (the offspring of the twelve sons of Jacob, Isa (Jesus), Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon and to David We gave the Psalms.}
(Surat Al-Nisa No. 4- verse No. 162 &163)
However, let’s look at one of the verses which William Campbell quotes and read it quietly and analyze it rationally away from interpretations.
{And those who disbelieve say : “We believe not in this Qur’an nor in that which was before it (Torah and Gospel)}قال تعالى :
(وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لَنْ نُؤْمِنَ بِهَذَا الْقُرْآنِ وَلاَ بِالَّذِي بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ (التوراة والإنجيل)) (سورة سبأ 34:31)
Thus, we find the disbelievers saying:(Surat Saba 34- verse No. 31)
“We believe not in this Qur’an” indicating their stammering. In another place, the Qur’an narrates their saying:(وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لَنْ نُؤْمِنَ بِهَذَا الْقُرْآنِ)
وَقَالُوا لَوْلَا نُزِّلَ هَذَا الْقُرْآنُ عَلَى رَجُلٍ مِّنَ الْقَرْيَتَيْنِ عَظِيمٍ [الزخرف31]
{And they say: “Why is not this Qur’an sent down to some great man of the two towns (Makkah and Taif)”}
This means that there is nothing wrong against nor any objection to Qur’an. The only objection is made to whom the Qur’an was sent down to. In addition, it was stupid their saying:(Surat Al-Zukhruf No. 43- verse No. 31)
وَقَالُوا إِن نَّتَّبِعِ الْهُدَى مَعَكَ نُتَخَطَّفْ مِنْ أَرْضِنَا [القصص57]
{And they say :”If we follow the guidance with you, we would be snatched away from our land”}
(Surat Al-Qasas No. 28- verse No. 57)
Thus, they admitted that he brought guidance; however, in another situation they said:
هُمُ الَّذِينَ يَقُولُونَ لَا تُنفِقُوا عَلَى مَنْ عِندَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ حَتَّى يَنفَضُّوا [المنافقون7]
{They are the ones who say: Spend not on those who are with Allah’s messenger, until they desert him.”}
(Surat Al-Munafiqun No. 63- verse No. 7)
They proved that he is the Messenger of Allah PBUH.
The one who speaks with the truth would narrate a reality in a single one form no matter how many times he repeats his talking. As for the lies he does not relate a reality; rather he narrates lying and a contradiction that should end with conflicting accounts.
Hence, we discovered that William Campbell did not present and did not quote except the verses that confirm the message of Islam and the verity of Qur’an and a confirmation of the message of our master the messenger Muhammed PBUH. Rather, he proved for everyone that the Torah and the Gospel brought glad tidings of a new messenger whose name is Ahmad as a confirmation of what they had in the scr iptures of his prophecy.
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عضو شرفي
Does William Campbell have the Torah and the Gospel mentioned in the Qur’an which include the prophecy of the messenger PBUH?
Then William Campbell surprises us with wonderful words and he should have asked himself a question through these words… he says:
The people of Mekkah said that they will not believe in the Qur’an nor in what was sent down before it (see No. 1). Some Jews said they will not believe except in their book while the Qur’an is a confirmation of what they have (see No. 9) God will punish these who rejects the Qur’an and the books the were sent down before it (see No. 6) As for those who have a great extent of knowledge among the Jews, they believe in Qur’an and the Torah (see No.11). In addition, the Jinn believe in the Torah and the Qur’an (see No.8).
The question now is: as long as the people with a great extent of knowledge among the Jews believed in Qur’an, so this indicates that the prophecy of the messenger PBUH was written in the Torah and you people of the cross, followers of the Jews, why didn’t you believe in it? Do you follow the steps of the ignorant or those with a great extent of knowledge?
Then William Campbell tries to brainwash the reader by lies, so he says: Surat Al-Touba says (which was the last one sent down to Muhammed)
{It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an.} (see No. 12)
إن وعد الله حق في التوراة والإنجيل والقرآن
First, the last verse that was sent down to our master the Messenger Muhammed PBUH was that which came in Surat Al-Maida – verse No. 3, from its from, it appears that it was the last verse:
{This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But as for him who is forced by severe hunger, with no inclination to sin, then surely, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.}قال تعالى :
{ .. الْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الإِسْلاَمَ دِينًا فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ فِي مَخْمَصَةٍ غَيْرَ مُتَجَانِفٍ لِّإِثْمٍ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيم}
[المائدة3]
(Surat Al-Maida No.5- verse No. 3)
The last surat that was sent down of Qur’an: it was not proven about the prophet PBUH a speech in another statement, a surat was sent down in qur’an; hence the companions disagreed, so each one said what his efforts and inference led him to.
Secondly: ahat in Surat Al-touba, God almighty said:
قال تعالى :
إِنَّ اللّهَ اشْتَرَى مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَنفُسَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُم بِأَنَّ لَهُمُ الجَنَّةَ يُقَاتِلُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ فَيَقْتُلُونَ وَيُقْتَلُونَ وَعْدًا عَلَيْهِ حَقًّا فِي التَّوْرَاةِ وَالإِنجِيلِ وَالْقُرْآنِ وَمَنْ أَوْفَى بِعَهْدِهِ مِنَ اللّهِ فَاسْتَبْشِرُواْ بِبَيْعِكُمُ الَّذِي بَايَعْتُم بِهِ وَذَلِكَ هُوَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ
[التوبة111]
{Verily, Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties for (the price) that theirs shall be the paradise. They fight in Allah’s cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success.}
(Surat Al-Tauba No. 9- verse No. 111)
This verse proves that the torah, Gospel and Qur’an are heavenly books that were sent down by God and the people of the Book must believe in this… does William Campbell believe that the Torah and the Gospel brought glad tidings of the messenger of allah PBUH and the Qur’an?
If they denied why do you quote Qur’anic verses ? do you do this in order to prove the verity of Torah and Gospel? The denial indicates that the scr ipture they have is not the Torah and the Gospel which the qur’an describes. The Qur’an talks about other books which you do not have.
This obvious in God almighty saying:
قُلْ يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لَسْتُمْ عَلَى شَيْءٍ حَتَّىَ تُقِيمُواْ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالإِنجِيلَ وَمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَلَيَزِيدَنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُم مَّا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِن رَّبِّكَ طُغْيَانًا وَكُفْرًا فَلاَ تَأْسَ عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكَافِرِينَ
(المائدة68)
{Say (O Muhammed PBUH) “O people of the scr ipture (Jews and Christians)! You have nothing (as regards guidance) till you act according to the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been sent down to you from your Lord (the Qur’an).” Verily, that which has been sent down to you (Muhammed PBUH) from your Lord increases in most of them (their) obstinate rebellion and disbelief. So be not sorrowful over the people who disbelieves.}
(Surat Al-Maida No.5- verse No. 68)
This verse proves that the people of the cross and their masters the Jews do not do this based on sound grounds. This indicates that the scr ipture in their hands is neither the Torah nor the Gospel; otherwise God would not have said:
حَتَّىَ تُقِيمُواْ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالإِنجِيلَ
{till you act according to the Torah, the Gospel,}
{Verily, Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties for (the price) that theirs shall be the paradise. They fight in Allah’s cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success.}قال تعالى :
إِنَّ اللّهَ اشْتَرَى مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَنفُسَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُم بِأَنَّ لَهُمُ الجَنَّةَ يُقَاتِلُونَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ فَيَقْتُلُونَ وَيُقْتَلُونَ وَعْدًا عَلَيْهِ حَقًّا فِي التَّوْرَاةِ وَالإِنجِيلِ وَالْقُرْآنِ وَمَنْ أَوْفَى بِعَهْدِهِ مِنَ اللّهِ فَاسْتَبْشِرُواْ بِبَيْعِكُمُ الَّذِي بَايَعْتُم بِهِ وَذَلِكَ هُوَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ
[التوبة111]
(Surat Al-Tauba No. 9- verse No. 111)
The verse (Al-touba 111) is not quoted from someone but it is quoted about God to whom belong almighty and glory. When God addresses us, He addresses us with what books He had which He sent down to Moses and Jesus and not the books written by Luke, Mathew, John, Mark and Polis) did almighty God mention in the Qur’an these gelatinous persons? Never.
It was stated in Qur’an that god ordered the Jews and the Christians to keep the Torah and the Gospel and God did not commit himself to kepp them as almighty God said in the Qur’an:
قال تعالى :
إِنَّا أَنزَلْنَا التَّوْرَاةَ فِيهَا هُدًى وَنُورٌ يَحْكُمُ بِهَا النَّبِيُّونَ الَّذِينَ أَسْلَمُواْ لِلَّذِينَ هَادُواْ وَالرَّبَّانِيُّونَ وَالأَحْبَارُ بِمَا اسْتُحْفِظُواْ مِن كِتَابِ اللّهِ وَكَانُواْ عَلَيْهِ شُهَدَاء فَلاَ تَخْشَوُاْ النَّاسَ وَاخْشَوْنِ وَلاَ تَشْتَرُواْ بِآيَاتِي ثَمَنًا قَلِيلاً وَمَن لَّمْ يَحْكُم بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ فَأُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الْكَافِرُونَ
(44المائدة)
{Verily, We did send down the Torah, therein was guidance and light, by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah’s will, judged for the Jews. And the rabbis and the priests, for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah’s Book, and they were witnesses thereto. Therefore, fear not men but fear Me (O Jews) and sent not My Verses for a miserable price. And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the disbelievers.}
(Surat Al-Maida- verse No. 44)
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