السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
جزاكن الله خيراً على هذه الإجابات الرائعة الكافية والوافية
بارك الله فيكن ورزقكن الفردوس الاعلى من الجنة
آميـــن
من هنا نبدأ ... وفي الجنة نلتقي
إن شاء الله
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
انا وضعت هذه الرود ثم قام بالرد علي بعد يومين من التفكير وهذه ردوده
That would be blasphemy for Solomon to claim that... and he doesn't. If you start reading from verse 1 of the chapter you mentioned, you will see that Solomon is talking about God's wisdom. He certainly was not saying that he existed before anything. Jesus however could claim that He existed before anything because He created. In John 10:30, Jesus claims to be one with Jehovah God. No matter what translation you use... his words were clearly understood by the pharisees. They told Jesus that they were going to stone Him, for blasphemy because He had claimed to be God.
It is God ALONE who stretched out the heavens. There was no angels or anyone else... In Colossian 1:15-17, we see that Jesus in, or through Jesus all things were created. If Jesus were not God, then he would not have been involved in creation... It was God ALONE who created.
والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
tell him that
i dare you to bring any paragraph in which jesus said ( i am God )
and if jesus was God so to whom he was praying???
Mark 1 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+1&version=NIV
Jesus Prays in a Solitary Place
35Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed.
Luke 22 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...22&version=NIV
41He withdrew about a stone's throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed
Luke 22 )New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...22&version=NIV
44And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground
so as a muslims we pray to the God that jesus (peace be upon him) was praying to him
and i think that you should read the paragraph about solomon carefully
22"The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way,
Before His works of old.
23"From everlasting I was established,
From the beginning, from the earliest times of the earth.
24"When there were no depths I was brought forth,
When there were no springs abounding with water.
25"(Before the mountains were settled,
Before the hills I was brought forth
;
so i think that you should read the chapter carefully
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...n-NASB-16632AM
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
ُُ Excellent and well done it was very good answers and on behalf of all Muslims i greet both of( mahabat el Rahman and Dr/muslima )i am sorry i did not share with them because i have nothing more to add. god blessed both of you
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
أود أن أسألك أختي هل يعلم كاتب الموضوع ديانتك أم لا؟
I really don't know how do you read and understand your bibleQuoteThat would be blasphemy for Solomon to claim that... and he doesn't. If you start reading from verse 1 of the chapter you mentioned, you will see that Solomon is talking about God's wisdom. He certainly was not saying that he existed before anything. Jesus however could claim that He existed before anything because He created.
If you said that Proverbs talks about God wisdom
so what do you think about this verse
King James Bible: Proverbs-8-22: The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
This is your evidenceQuoteIn John 10:30, Jesus claims to be one with Jehovah God. No matter what translation you use... his words were clearly understood by the pharisees. They told Jesus that they were going to stone Him, for blasphemy because He had claimed to be God.
King James Bible: John-10-30: I and my Father are one
Please read the next 6 verses and you will find that Jesus was trying to explain to them that he and God have the same purpose and not more
Look what does Jesus told the disciples in
John-17-11: And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are
and in
John-17-22: And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one
Are the disciples gods also?????
I've replied for this beforeQuoteIn Colossian 1:15-17, we see that Jesus in, or through Jesus all things were created. If Jesus were not God, then he would not have been involved in creation... It was God ALONE who created.
AGAIN
King James Bible: Colossians-1-15: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature
Where's your mind man? This is an evidence that Jesus was a creature and not the creator
read it slowly
the firstborn of every creature
the firstborn of every creature
the firstborn of every creature
or in other translations or versions
the firstborn of all creation
and so Jesus is one of the creatures and not a creator
Now Im waiting for your to answer this question
Tell me who is Jesus's Lord!!!!!!
MAR-12-28: And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
MAR-12-29: And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
رائع أختي الحبيبة د/مسلمة
جزاك الله كل خير
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
اخواتي محبة الرحمن و د/مسلمة ماشاء الله لا قوة الا بالله
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
ارسلت له الردود وهاهي اجابته
Your understanding of scriptures comes from Watchtower teaching. But the Watchtower organization is leading millions of people to a Christless eternity through false teaching, and by distorting the original Greek manuscripts.
You can be certain if a prophet is false in one way... Deuteronomy 18:20-22 Tells us a prophet of Jehovah predicts things that do come to pass. False prophets predict things that don't come to pass.
Now... Are YOU a prophet??
You are according to the watchtower. (I can give you watchtower info stating this if you are interested)
So, would you say that the Watchtower organization is is prophet of Jehovah...or a false prophet?
Without any doubt at all, the Watchtower society is a false prophet.
I can list quite a few examples of false prophecy by the Watchtower
For example, they have prophecied several times that Christ would return in 1914, 1925 and again in 1975. (Again, if you want reference where you can find this in your materials, I can provide for you)
The Watchtower is false prophet.
Actually... This might make an interesting topic. Would you be interested in starting a new thread and we can look at some of the history behind the Watctower Society?
اسفة اذا كنت اسبب لكم ازعاج من كثرة الاسئلة
والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
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