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    In the Name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

    In this subject I will collect some things in the christian faith which they object it in islam and they forget that it’s also in their religion



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    1- The tribute - poll tax

    Do not object about the poll tax because your Bible tells you to pay, and even consider it the right of our rights


    Romans 13 - New International Version

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...13&version=NIV

    7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

    Moses also took the tribute (tax) as stated in the book of II Chronicles

    Chronicles(2: 24 )New International Version

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...24&version=NIV

    9 A proclamation was then issued in Judah and Jerusalem that they should bring to the LORD the tax that Moses the servant of God had required of Israel in the desert


    to be continued

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    2- Polygamy


    Do not object on the multiple wives of our prophet muhammad (peace be upon him ) because according to your Bible that you believes in it "Solomon the Wise" who is a prophet and a writer of some sanitation of the bible had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines




    Kings 1: 11) New International Version)



    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...11&version=NIV


    3 He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray



    David had 29 wives and 40 concubines as mentioned in the bible
    (1Sa18:20 ), (Sa 25:42-43), (2Sa 3:2 -5), (2Sa 11:26-27) , (2Sa 5:12-13)


    Jacob had three wives and one made


    Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines
    Chronicles 2 : 11) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...11&version=NIV

    21 Rehoboam loved Maacah daughter of Absalom more than any of his other wives and concubines. In all, he had eighteen wives and sixty concubines, twenty-eight sons and sixty daughters.


    Abraham had three wives and ten concubines and maybe more

    Moses had two wives



    So do not object

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    2- Polygamy


    Do not object on the multiple wives of our prophet muhammad (peace be upon him ) because according to your Bible that you believes in it "Solomon the Wise" who is a prophet and a writer of some sanitation of the bible had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines




    Kings 1: 11) New International Version)



    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...11&version=NIV


    3 He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray



    David had 29 wives and 40 concubines as mentioned in the bible
    (1Sa18:20 ), (Sa 25:42-43), (2Sa 3:2 -5), (2Sa 11:26-27) , (2Sa 5:12-13)


    Jacob had three wives and one made


    Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines
    Chronicles 2 : 11) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...11&version=NIV

    21 Rehoboam loved Maacah daughter of Absalom more than any of his other wives and concubines. In all, he had eighteen wives and sixty concubines, twenty-eight sons and sixty daughters.


    Abraham had three wives and ten concubines and maybe more

    Moses had two wives



    So do not object
    What the Bible says about Polygamy

    Genesis 4:19
    And Lamech took unto him two wives.
    Genesis 16:1-4
    Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar. And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai. And Sarai ... gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived.
    Genesis 25:6
    But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had....
    Genesis 26:34
    Esau ... took to wife Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Bashemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite.
    Genesis 31:17
    Then Jacob rose up, and set ... his wives upon camels.
    Exodus 21:10
    If he take him another wife....
    Deuteronomy 21:15
    If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated....
    Judges 8:30
    And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives.
    1 Samuel 1:1-2
    Elkanah ... had two wives; the name of the one was Hannah, and the name of the other Peninnah.
    2 Samuel 12:7-8
    Thus saith the LORD God of Israel ... I gave thee ... thy master's wives....
    1 Kings 11:2-3
    Solomon ... had seven hundred wives ... and three hundred concubines.
    1 Chronicles 4:5
    And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah.
    2 Chronicles 11:21
    Rehoboam ... took eighteen wives, and threescore concubines.
    2 Chronicles 13:21
    But Abijah waxed mighty, and married fourteen wives....
    2 Chronicles 24:3
    Jehoiada took for him two wives....
    Mt.25:1
    Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

    تحمَّلتُ وحديَ مـا لا أُطيـقْ من الإغترابِ وهَـمِّ الطريـقْ
    اللهم اني اسالك في هذه الساعة ان كانت جوليان في سرور فزدها في سرورها ومن نعيمك عليها . وان كانت جوليان في عذاب فنجها من عذابك وانت الغني الحميد برحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين

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    What the Bible says about Polygamy

    Genesis 4:19
    And Lamech took unto him two wives.
    Genesis 16:1-4
    Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar. And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai. And Sarai ... gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived.
    Genesis 25:6
    But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had....
    Genesis 26:34
    Esau ... took to wife Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Bashemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite.
    Genesis 31:17
    Then Jacob rose up, and set ... his wives upon camels.
    Exodus 21:10
    If he take him another wife....
    Deuteronomy 21:15
    If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated....
    Judges 8:30
    And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives.
    1 Samuel 1:1-2
    Elkanah ... had two wives; the name of the one was Hannah, and the name of the other Peninnah.
    2 Samuel 12:7-8
    Thus saith the LORD God of Israel ... I gave thee ... thy master's wives....
    1 Kings 11:2-3
    Solomon ... had seven hundred wives ... and three hundred concubines.
    1 Chronicles 4:5
    And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah.
    2 Chronicles 11:21
    Rehoboam ... took eighteen wives, and threescore concubines.
    2 Chronicles 13:21
    But Abijah waxed mighty, and married fourteen wives....
    2 Chronicles 24:3
    Jehoiada took for him two wives....
    Mt.25:1
    Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
    I am a Christian. I don't object to Muhammad having had more than one wife or any Muslim, but I could make an argument for why Muhammad was conveniently able to have way more than four wives which was more than his revelation allowed. I don't understand the double standard. Shouldn't he be the model for all Muslims? Another thing that puzzles me is the age of his youngest wife and having intercourse with her as a child still playing with her dolls, if I am understanding the hadiths correctly.

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    why Muhammad was conveniently able to have way more than four wives which was more than his revelation allowed.

    Because Muhammad is a prophet and we are not !


    who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones !
    the prophet Solomon PBUH had 700 wives & 300
    concubines !


    1Kings 11 : 3

    And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.




    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي


    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

    أنقر(ي) فضلاً أدناه :


    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي


    سُبحان الذي يـُطعـِمُ ولا يُطعَم ،
    منّ علينا وهدانا ، و أعطانا و آوانا ،
    وكلّ بلاء حسن أبلانا ،
    الحمدُ لله حمداً حمداً ،
    الحمدُ لله حمداً يعدلُ حمدَ الملائكة المُسبّحين ، و الأنبياء و المُرسلين ،
    الحمدُ لله حمدًا كثيراً طيّبا مُطيّبا مُباركاً فيه ، كما يُحبّ ربّنا و يرضى ،
    اللهمّ لكَ الحمدُ في أرضك ، ولك الحمدُ فوق سماواتك ،
    لكَ الحمدُ حتّى ترضى ، ولكَ الحمدُ إذا رضيتَ ، ولكَ الحمدُ بعد الرضى ،
    اللهمّ لك الحمدُ حمداً كثيراً يملأ السماوات العلى ، يملأ الأرض و مابينهما ،
    تباركتَ ربّنا وتعالَيتَ .



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    Another thing that puzzles me is the age of his youngest wife and having intercourse with her as a child still playing with her dolls, if I am understanding the hadiths correctly.

    dolls are not only 4 childs colleague !









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    Des chercheurs du groupe d'électronique japonais Fujitsu ont imaginé un ourson en peluche robotisé, aux grands yeux noirs et petit minois espiègle, pour tenir compagnie aux personnes âgées et contribuer à l'éveil des enfants.
    the Japanese electronics group" Fujitsu " devised a robotic teddy bear to keep company to the elderly





    http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2010...r-enfants.html





    and we have more :


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    Normal Menstrual Cycle - Menarche and the Teenage Menstrual Cycle:
    Menarche (say "MEN-ar-kee") is a girl's first menstrual cycle. A first period usually happens after several years of pubic hair growth, breast development, and rapid growth known as a "growth spurt." Menarche most commonly happens sometime between ages 11 and 14.6 It normally happens as early as age 9 or up to age 15. If you are a teenage girl, see your doctor if you have not started having periods by age 15
    http://www.webmd.com/women/tc/normal...enstrual-cycle



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    In 1997, Herman-Giddens et al1 reported evidence that young girls in the United States, especially black girls, are developing pubertal characteristics earlier than currently used norms. Trained pediatrician examiners who were part of the Pediatric Research in Office Settings (PROS) network staged breast and pubic hair development in >17 000 girls between the ages of 3 and 12 years. Results showed that the mean age of onset of breast development, which had been close to 11 years in earlier studies,2-4 is now approximately 10 years in white and just under 9 years in black girls
    http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...eid=pediatrics


    below the list of youngest birth mothers :



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._birth_mothers




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    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي


    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي

    أنقر(ي) فضلاً أدناه :


    نقره لتكبير أو تصغير الصورة ونقرتين لعرض الصورة في صفحة مستقلة بحجمها الطبيعي


    سُبحان الذي يـُطعـِمُ ولا يُطعَم ،
    منّ علينا وهدانا ، و أعطانا و آوانا ،
    وكلّ بلاء حسن أبلانا ،
    الحمدُ لله حمداً حمداً ،
    الحمدُ لله حمداً يعدلُ حمدَ الملائكة المُسبّحين ، و الأنبياء و المُرسلين ،
    الحمدُ لله حمدًا كثيراً طيّبا مُطيّبا مُباركاً فيه ، كما يُحبّ ربّنا و يرضى ،
    اللهمّ لكَ الحمدُ في أرضك ، ولك الحمدُ فوق سماواتك ،
    لكَ الحمدُ حتّى ترضى ، ولكَ الحمدُ إذا رضيتَ ، ولكَ الحمدُ بعد الرضى ،
    اللهمّ لك الحمدُ حمداً كثيراً يملأ السماوات العلى ، يملأ الأرض و مابينهما ،
    تباركتَ ربّنا وتعالَيتَ .



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    3- The spoils of war - the plunder of war

    Do not object on islam which allows the spoils of war ( the plunder of war ) because according to your bible that you believe in it’s allowed too


    Deuteronomy 20) New International Version)

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...20&version=NIV


    14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies.


    So do not object

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    4- The Concubines


    Do not object on islam which allows the concubines because according to your Bible it’s allowed too


    Deuteronomy 20) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...20&version=NIV


    14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies.


    Kings 1:11) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...11&version=NIV


    3 He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray.


    Samuel 2: 5) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+5&version=NIV


    13 After he left Hebron, David took more concubines and wives in Jerusalem, and more sons and daughters were born to him.

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    5- God guides whom He wills and leads astray whom He will


    Do not object on islam that god guides whom He wills and leads astray whom He will because god according to your bible that you believe in it
    also do that


    Psalm 146) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...46&version=NIV


    9 The LORD watches over the alien
    and sustains the fatherless and the widow,
    but he frustrates the ways of the wicked



    Isaiah 63) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...63&version=NIV


    17 Why, O LORD, do you make us wander from your ways
    and harden our hearts so we do not revere you?
    Return for the sake of your servants
    ,
    the tribes that are your inheritance.


    Ezekiel 14) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...14&version=NIV


    9 " 'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel

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