MrsClaus92

[3abd Arahman]

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The earliest Muslim writings and traditions, including the Qur’an, Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah, the Sahih Al-Bukhari, and the Sahih Muslim, provide abundant warrant for rejecting Muhammad as a prophet. All these are primary source documents and they show that Muhammad was often violent and ruthless towards those who insulted him (not God, but him himself...) that he received revelations allowing him to transgress other revelations in the Qur’an, (prophecy expired? Or double standards?) that he felt contempt towards women, that was slave trading, that he permitted violence towards women, and that one of his sexual partners was a nine-year-old child. Muhammad declared that lying is acceptable if it is used to make peace… doesn't it make you wonder how often he lied while preaching his message, for the sake of creating peace and uniting Christians, Jews and Pagans?

The previous paragraph is a collection of the false ideas that those who attack Islam are trying to convince people with

When was Prophet Muhammad Pbuh violent with those who insulted him
?
Maybe when he conquered Mecca and he said to the people of his tribe Quraysh: Go you are free, although they oppressed the early muslims and although he himself Pbuh and his fellowers had to leave Mecca because the people of Quraysh were violent with them
If in certain situations you see that our beloved Prophet Pbuh seems to be violent be sure that either these stories are false stories or there is some explanation that you don't know

Yes there were some revelations that made the Prophet Pbuh transgress other revelations but this is a sort of graduation from God in teaching us his religion
A famous example is wine
The early muslims used to drink wine
The Quran first stated that a muslim should not pray while he is drunk then wine was completely forbidden whether a muslim is praying or not

Who said that Prophet Muhammad Pbuh was contempt to women
?
Maybe because he taught us that the best of us is the best to his wife
Read

http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/w_islam/intro.htm

and

http://www.answering-christianity.com/woman.htm

Regarding the marriage of Prophet Muhammad Pbuh to our mother Aisha when she was 9 years old
Read this
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http://www.answering-christianity.com/aisha.htm

Prophet Muhammad Pbuh allowed telling lies when you are making peace between people
For example if you have a quarrel with one of your friends and then you tell me that you think your friend was silly and stupid
If I want to put an end to your quarrel with your friend and go and tell her Mrs Claus told me that you are a very kind person and she is really sad that she quarreled with you
This doesn't mean that I'm a liar and this doesn't mean also that Prophet Muhammad has been lying while preaching his message as you claim

[3abd Arahman]

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In addition to all this, there are reasons to suspect that Muhammad suffered from either mental disease or demonic influence. The evidence from the earliest accounts of his life shows that he may have been psychologically or spiritually unstable before, during, and after his conversion to Islam. Considering this instability how can Islam be a rational system of belief?

After reading all what you wrote below I find that you just find evidence that Prophet Muhammad Pbuh may have been mentally or spiritually unstable because you want to see such evidence but in fact there is no evidence at all
Actually how could you claim that a man who has been able to change the religion of a whole nation within 23 years and change them from pagans to people who worship only one God, how could you claim that such a man was mentally unstable
?
If an intelligent man is told that some person managed to convince many people, numbering in the billions, of a specific idea, and that they followed him in that, or that a man on his own was able to succeed in the elections – for example – or to convince the people to vote for him, this intelligent man would attest that this person was brilliant and intelligent and wise. So how about out Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – may my father and mother be sacrificed for him – whom the Arabs and non-Arabs followed, whose message of Islam spread everywhere and whose message with which God sent him has remained strong until our own times, facts which are attested by everyone?

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evidence that Muhammad was imbalanced goes all the way back to his childhood. His parents died when he was young, so he was brought up by his grandfather and his uncle. Muhammad had a nurse who took care of him prior to his mother’s death. This nurse told about this strange event that occurred during Muhammad’s childhood:

Some months after our return [Muhammad] and his brother were with our lambs behind the tents when his brother came running and said to us, "Two men clothed in white have seized that Qurayshi brother of mine and thrown him down and opened up his belly, and are stirring it up." We ran towards him and found him standing up with a livid face. We took hold of him and asked him what was the matter. He said, "Two men in white raiment came and threw me down and opened up my belly and searched therein for I know not what." So we took him back to our tent.

His father said to me, "I am afraid that this child has had a stroke, so take him back to his family before the result appears." So we picked him up and took him to his mother who asked why we had brought him when I had been anxious for his welfare and desirous of keeping him with me. I said to her, "God has let my son live so far and I have done my duty. I am afraid that ill will befall him, so I have brought him back to you as you wished." She asked me what happened and gave me no peace until I told her. When she asked if I feared a demon possessed him, I replied that I did." (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah (The Life of Muhammad), A. Guillaume, tr. (New York: Oxford University Press, 1980), p. 71-72)

This story is considered by muslims as one of the miracles of our beloved prophet Pbuh
According to islamic belief, these 2 men were angels and opening the chest of the Prophet and taking something from it has a spiritual meaning as the thing taken is understood as a symbol of
the evil part of the human personality
Many muslims believe that this was a sort of devine preparation of
Prophet Muhammad for his mission as God's messenger
As a non-muslim , I understand that you won't believe this but surely it's not logic to ignore the whole life of Prophet Muhammad Pbuh and his influence on whole mankind and consider this story as evidence of him being mentally unstable
Moreover this story is considered dobtful by some muslim scholars

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Muhammad’s nurse wasn’t the only one to fear demonic possession on the part of Muhammad; the Prophet himself came to the exact same conclusion when he began receiving revelations from Gabriel. A full account of Muhammad’s first encounter with Gabriel is given in the Sirat Rasul Allah:

When it was the night on which God honored him with his mission and showed mercy on His servants thereby, Gabriel brought him the command of God. "He came to me," said the apostle of God, "while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it so tightly that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it again so that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it the third time so that I thought it was death and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What then shall I read?’—and this I said only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same to me again. He said:

‘Read in the name of thy Lord who created,
Who created man of blood coagulated.
Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent,
Who taught by the pen,
Taught that which they knew not unto men.’

So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart."

So far so good, except for the violent manner in which Gabriel brought the message to Muhammad. But Muhammad’s interpretation of the event is quite revealing. His first impression of his encounter was that he had been possessed; as a result, Muhammad quickly became suicidal:

Now none of God’s creatures was more hateful to me than an (ecstatic) poet or a man possessed: I could not even look at them. I thought, Woe is me poet or possessed—Never shall Quraysh say this of me! I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and gain rest.

Muhammad tried to throw himself off a cliff, but he was stopped by Gabriel. He later became suicidal again when no additional revelations came.

Now tell me that this is not the behavior of a mad man, belonging in a nut house: "he was sitting on a chair in between the sky and the earth. I was so frightened by him that I fell on the ground and came to my family and said (to them), Cover me! (with a blanket), cover me!" (Sahih Al-Bukhari , Number 3238.).

Again you are just trying to find any evidence to prove that Prophet Muhammad was mentally unstable

Regarding the first story of Gabriel coming for the first time to the Prophet and telling him (Read
I don't know exactly how did you understand that Prophet Muhammad Pbuh thought he was possessed by demons
?
Yes, the Prophet felt afraid but this
is normal
Imagine someone sitting in a cave on top of a mountain alone and then he suddenly finds a man telling him : Read and hugging him
firmly
and doing the samething for 3 times
What do you think a normal response will be
?
Regarding the story of Prophet Muhammad Pbuh trying to commit a suicide, it's not a true story because it's from the (Maraseel) of a muslim scholar known as Alzohary
Maraseel is a name given to the narrations in which a narrator narrates a certain event without witnessing it and without mentioning who informed him about it
Muslim scholars consider that Alzohary's maraseel are extremely doubtful so the story of the Prophet Pbuh trying to commit a suicide is extremely doubtful

Let's read the whole story from Sahih Albukhari
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Saheeh Bukhari

Volumn 009, Book 087, Hadith Number 111.
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Narated By 'Aisha : The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous... up to... that which he knew not." (96.15)

Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?" Then he told her everything that had happened and said, 'I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija said, 'Never! But have the glad tidings, for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you as you keep good reactions with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guest generously and assist the deserving, calamity-afflicted ones." Khadija then accompanied him to (her cousin) Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza bin Qusai. Waraqa was the son of her paternal uncle, i.e., her father's brother, who during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the Arabic writing and used to write of the Gospels in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to him, "O my cousin! Listen to the story of your nephew." Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" The Prophet described whatever he had seen.

Waraqa said, "This is the same Namus (i.e., Gabriel, the Angel who keeps the secrets) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they turn me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said: "Never did a man come with something similar to what you have brought but was treated with hostility. If I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Apostle in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before. (Ibn 'Abbas said regarding the meaning of: 'He it is that Cleaves the daybreak (from the darkness)' (6.96) that Al-Asbah. means the light of the sun during the day and the light of the moon at night).


As you see Alzohary said as we have heard without mentioning who he heard from exactly
This is why although the whole Hadith is considered Sahih or true , this part of the Prophet trying to commit a suicide is considered extremely doubtful

Moreover you are just picking from the hadith what you want to find, what about Waraqa Ibn Nawfal who was a christian and considered prophet Muhammad to be a true prophet from the first day exactly as prophet Moses
?
If Waraqa who saw Prophet Muhammad Pbuh felt that he was mentally unstable why did he consider him a true prophet
?

Again if Prophet Muhammad was a mad man as you are trying to claim, how was he able to work hard for 23 years to change the religion of a whole nation
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How has he been able to be the ruler of the muslims in Almadinah for 11 years
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How was he able to lead the islamic army while he was mad as you claim
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Why did all his wives , daughters , grandsons and friends believe that he was a true prophet and didn't notice that he was mad
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And what is this? Epilepsy? "When the Ka’ba was rebuilt, the Prophet (The blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) and Abbas went to carry stones. Abbas said to the Prophet (The blessing and peace of Allah be upon him): "(Take off and) put your waist sheet over your neck so that the stones may not hurt you." (But as soon as he took off his waist sheet) he fell unconscious on the ground with both his eyes towards the sky. When he came to his senses, he said: "My waist sheet! My waist sheet!" Then he tied his waist sheet (round his waist) (Sahih Al-Bukhari , Number 3829.)

No it's not for sure epilepsy because epilepsy is recurrent
And for sure it was never reported that Prophet Muhammad Pbuh convulsed
As a physician, I bet it was just a vasovagal syncope
which occurs to normal people

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Cold sweat??? "Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) sweated in cold weather when revelation descended upon him" (Sahih Muslim, Abdul Hamid Siddiqi, tr., Number 5763.)

High fever??? A’isha reported: When revelation descended upon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) even during the cold days, his forehead perspired.[8]

Breath Holding Spells will cause your face to turn blue… it's another sign of Epilepsy: Ubada bin Samit reported that when wahi (inspiration) descended upon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), he felt a burden on that account and the color of his face underwent a change. (Ibid., Number 5766.)

These changes which used to occur to the Prophet Pbuh while he was receiving the revelation prove that the Prophet Pbuh was not a liar
It shows that there was really something strange happening to the Prophet when he said that he was receiving the revelation
Sometimes the people around the Prophet heard a sound like that of bees around the head of the Prophet Pbuh while he was receiving revelation
Is this also epilepsy
?
Anyhow, the main symptom of epilepsy is convulsions, have you ever heard that Prophet Muhammad Pbuh convulsed
?
Have you heard of an epilepsy patient , reading verses after his epileptic fits and saying that these are verses inspired to him from God
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The satanic versus show:

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Muhammad’s reception of revelations was influenced by his personal desires;
He received a revelation from Satan;
He proclaimed the revelation as a message from Allah;
He and his followers bowed down in honor of receiving the revelation; and
God’s response was, in effect, "Don’t worry about it Muhammad. All prophets proclaim Satanic messages from time to time."

God’s response to Muhammad was incorporated into the Qur’an:

"And We did not send before you any apostle or prophet but when he desired, the Shaitan made a suggestion respecting his desire; but Allah annuls that which the Shaitan casts, then does Allah establish His communications, and Allah is Knowing, Wise."

Hence, Satan was capable of influencing both Muhammad and, allegedly, all the prophets before him.

I told you before that the whole story of satanic verses is considered as a fake by muslim scholars so we don't have to repeat what we have said before again

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But Satan wasn’t the only influence on Muhammad. A Jewish magician named Labid was also able to exercise control over the "Seal of the Prophets."

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Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) narrated: "Once the Prophet (the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact, he had not done."

Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) narrated: Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle (may the blessing and peace of Allah be upon him) so that he used to think that he had had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not. Then one day he said, "O Aisha, do you know that Allah has instructed me concerning the matter I asked Him about? Two men came to me and one of them sat near my head and the other sat near my feet. The one near my head asked the other: ‘What is wrong with this man?’ The latter replied, ‘He is under the effect of magic.’ The first one asked, ‘Who has worked magic on him?’ The other replied, ‘Labid bin Al-Asam, a man from Bani Zuraiq who was an ally of the Jews and was a hypocrite.’ The first one asked, ‘What material did he use?’ The other replied, ‘A comb and the hair stuck to it.’"

Ibn Ishaq also reports that "Labid bin A’sam . . . bewitched the apostle of God so that he could not come at his wives." Guillaume adds a note saying that, according to tradition, "the spell lasted for a year."

Again I don't know what's the problem that you find when we say that a jewish magician was able to affect Prophet Muhammad Pbuh
?
If this proves anything, it proves that prophet Muhammad Pbuh was a normal man, he was not divine , he was not God or the son of God
Prophet Muhammad Pbuh was just a normal man who could be affected by a magician but the difference between him and us is that God selected him to be his messenger
Surely I don't know what tradition said that this spell lasted for a year and surely Guillaume is not a reliable source for us

And here is the whole story
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[[From Muslim]] @Book 26, Number 5428: A'isha reported that a Jew from among the Jews of Banu Zuraiq who was called Labid b. al-A'sam cast spell upon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) with the result that he (under the influence of the spell) felt that he had been doing something whereas in fact he had not been doing that. (This state of affairs lasted) until one day or during one night Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) made supplication (to dispel its effects). He again made a supplication and he again did this and said to 'A'isha: Do you know that Allah has told me what I had asked Him? There came to me two men and one amongst them sat near my head and the other one near my feet and he who sat near my head said to one who sat near my feet or one who sat near my feet said to one who sat near my head: What is the trouble with the man? He said: The spell has affected him. He said: Who has cast that? He (the other one) said: It was Labid b. A'sam (who has done it). He said: What is the thing by which he transmitted its effect? He said: By the comb and by the hair stuck to the comb and the spathe of the date- palm. He said: Where is tbap He replied: In the well of Dhi Arwan. She said: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent some of the persons from among his Companions there and then said: 'A'isha. by Allah, its water was yellow like henna and its trees were like heads of the devils. She said that she asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as to why he did not burn that. He said: No, Allah has cured me and I do not like that I should induce people to commit any high- handedness in regard (to one another), but I only commanded that it should be buried.

As you see the story shows that the Prophet Muhammad is a true prophet
God listened to his prayers and cured him from the affect of this magic
Also the Prophet Pbuh was able to know after his prayers the site
of the magic and sent his companions there to remove it
But as usual you are just picking what you want and ignoring what you don't want from the same story

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According to the earliest and most reliable Muslim writings and traditions, Muhammad’s first impression of his divine encounter was that he had been possessed by demons. This encounter disturbed Muhammad so much that he became suicidal. Further, we have a story in Ibn Ishaq, the earliest biography of Muhammad, maintaining that the childhood nurse of the Prophet also thought that he might be demon-possessed. Some of the details of Muhammad’s encounter seem to support this conclusion. He was sometimes terrified of his revelations, screaming for someone to cover him. He would sweat profusely even in the cold, and his face would change color. Additionally, Muhammad could not distinguish genuine revelations from Satanic revelations, and he was the victim of a debilitating magic spell that probably lasted a year.

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[LEFT][FONT=&quot]this evidence is entirely sufficient for a rational person to seriously doubt Muhammad’s reliability as a prophet. A man who (admittedly) proclaimed verses from Satan and fell victim to sorcery while declaring himself to be God’s greatest messenger should not be trusted without exceptionally good evidence to support his claim. Since no such evidence for Islam exists, it is justified to question his role as God’s messenger

All what you said in the previous paragraph was answered before
Yet, of course you have the right not to believe in Prophet Muhammad Pbuh unless there is strong evidence to support that
he was a true prophet
and this is what I'll start doing soon insha Allah
(If God wills)

[3abd Arahman]

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Moreover, when examining the life of another messenger of God, Jesus of Nazareth, we find that Muhammad is to be utterly rejected. Consider one of Jesus’ many encounters with demons:

They went to Capernaum, and when the Sabbath came, Jesus went into the synagogue and began to teach. The people were amazed at his teaching, because he taught them as one who had authority, not as the teachers of the law. Just then a man in their synagogue who was possessed by an evil spirit cried out, "What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!"

"Be quiet!" said Jesus sternly. "Come out of him!" The evil spirit shook the man violently and came out of the man with a shriek.

The people were all so amazed that they asked each other, "What is this? A new teaching—and with authority! He even gives orders to evil spirits and they obey him."

Contrary to what the Qur’an suggests, not all of God’s messengers were the occasional puppets of Satan. The New Testament- which Muslims believe in, gives the account of at least one who had complete authority over demons. If we have to choose which messenger to listen to, is it not reasonable to trust the one who terrified demons with his presence?

Again you are speaking as if you are a christian and it seems that you believe in both judaism and christianity but it's only Islam that you don't believe in

I think after I have proved to you that the story of satanic verses is not a true story, your whole argument comes to an end

Moreover , I want to be sure that you understand that we don't believe in the new testament , we believe in the true Injeel which was given by God to prophet Jesus Pbuh but our faith in the new testament is the same as our faith in the old testament, some parts of both of them are true but others are false

Moreover, you must also know that the holy Quran with its scientific, historical and numerical miracles and its prophecies which turned out to be true is the only evidence e new testament
that Jesus Pbuh is a true prophet

But if we were to know prophet Jesus only from the new testament , we would have reached the conclusion that he is not a true prophet simply because the writers of the new testament have put in the mouth of Jesus Pbuh false prophecies

According to the gospels Jesus Pbuh prophecized that he will
return again before the death of some of those who saw him and it's now more than 2000 years later and all those who saw Jesus Pbuh died and he didn't return again yet

Read this false prophecy in Matthew's gospel chapter 9
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27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then shall he render unto every man according to his deeds.

28 Verily I say unto you, there are some of them that stand here, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.


And we also find prophecies that Jesus Pbuh would return before the end of his generation

From Mark 13
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And as he went forth out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Teacher, behold, what manner of stones and what manner of buildings!

2 And Jesus said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left here one stone upon another, which shall not be thrown down.

3 And as he sat on the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,

4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when these things are all about to be accomplished?

5 And Jesus began to say unto them, Take heed that no man lead you astray.

6 Many shall come in my name, saying, I am he; and shall lead many astray.

7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars, be not troubled: these things must needs come to pass; but the end is not yet.

8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there shall be earthquakes in divers places; there shall be famines: these things are the beginning of travail.

9 But take ye heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in synagogues shall ye be beaten; and before governors and kings shall ye stand for my sake, for a testimony unto them.

10 And the gospel must first be preached unto all the nations.

11 And when they lead you to judgment, and deliver you up, be not anxious beforehand what ye shall speak: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye; for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit.

12 And brother shall deliver up brother to death, and the father his child; and children shall rise up against parents, and cause them to be put to death.

13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved.

14 But when ye see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not (let him that readeth understand), then let them that are in Judaea flee unto the mountains:

15 and let him that is on the housetop not go down, nor enter in, to take anything out his house:

16 and let him that is in the field not return back to take his cloak.

17 But woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days!

18 And pray ye that it be not in the winter.

19 For those days shall be tribulation, such as there hath not been the like from the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never shall be.

20 And except the Lord had shortened the days, no flesh would have been saved; but for the elect's sake, whom he chose, he shortened the days.

21 And then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is the Christ; or, Lo, there; believe it not:

22 for there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show signs and wonders, that they may lead astray, if possible, the elect.

23 But take ye heed: behold, I have told you all things beforehand.

24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

25 and the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken.

26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory.

27 And then shall he send forth the angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

28 Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh;

29 even so ye also, when ye see these things coming to pass, know ye that he is nigh, even at the doors.

30 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, until all these things be accomplished.

Another serious false prophecy is the prophecy of the 3 days and 3 nights
According to the gospels, Jesus Pbuh prophecized that he will spend 3 days and 3 nights in the tomb but he actually spent according to the gospels also 1 day and 2 nights or maximally 3 days and 2 nights if we consider a part of a day as a whole day but never 3 days and 3 nights

Matt 12:40; For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Mark 14:42-43;And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.
Matt 28:1; In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
These 3 scriptures prove three things;
1. That Jesus would spend 3 days and three nights in the tomb.
2. That the day he died was the 'preparation' day, the day before the sabbath which is the 14th day of the month of Nisan, the day of passover.
3. That HE rose again on the morning of the 1st day of the week, which today is sunday, according to Matt 28:1.

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Furthermore, Jesus warned his followers that "many false prophets will appear and deceive many people."

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Not all false prophets deliberately deceived their disciples, however. Some were led by Satan to do so, and the evidence strongly suggests that Muhammad falls into this category. Even his own followers said that he was bewitched.

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Yes , Jesus Pbuh warned from false prophets and there were really many false prophets after him and also after prophet Muhammad Pbuh
There were a lot of people who claimed that they are the jewish Messiah and they were many people who claimed that they are messengers from God like Musaylimah Alkaddab , BahauAllah and Gholam Ahmad
But this doesn't mean at all that prophet Muhammad Pbuh was a false prophet
Jesus Pbuh said that God will send the Parakletos who will teach the people everything and who will say the truth because he doesn't speak from his own but he says what he hears
We are sure that the Parakletos is Prophet Muhammad Pbuh
Even in the gospel of the Nizareth which was considered to be true by some early christians but not considered to be true by the church now, Jesus Pbuh said clearly that God will send his messenger
This is the link to the Gospel
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http://messianic.nazirene.org/gospel_index.htm

The prophecy is in chapter 61
:
http://messianic.nazirene.org/gospel....htm#chapter61


1.And as Yeshua sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" And Yeshua answered and said to them, "Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, 'I am Messiah; and shall deceive many.'"
2."And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars; see that you not be troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there will be famines, and pestilences, and earthquake, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows."
3.And in those days those that have power will gather to themselves the lands and riches of the earth for their own lusts, and will oppress the many who lack and hold them in bondage, and use them to increase their riches, and they will oppress even the beasts of the field, setting up the abominable thing. But God will send them his messenger and they will proclaim his laws, which men have hidden by their traditions, and those that transgress shall die."

It's clear that the only man whom about one quarter of the world population believe that he is the messenger of God who Prophet Jesus Pbuh prophecized his coming is Prophet Muhammad Pbuh

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"Or probably God can never send prophets except to the Jews?"

God can send prophets to other nations and he has done so- Abimelech king of Grar for example, and Balaam Be Beor for another. God also has a promised land saved for other nations but the Jews as stated earlier… God created all humanity and loves them all. He may have separate covenants with others and send them prophets etc. that doesn't mean that he did not single out the Jews to prove his existence through them, and use them as a light to the nations so that eventually the whole world will believe in him (not that the whole world will become Jews… that is simply un necessary)

How did the whole world know about God and abandon worshipping statues
?
Is it through the jews
?
Or is it through Prophet Jesus and Prophet Muhammad Pbuh
?

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"Anyway according to islam, the jews were one day the peopple of God, but they disobeyed him , they worshipped other Gods, they did many mistakes, they even killed or tried to kill some of God's prophets like prophet Jesus Pbuh, so God punished them by not considering them his people anymore and by sending prophet Muhamed, the final prophet sent to whole mankind, from the arabs not the jews and now the jews are no more the people of God, they were replaced by muslims"

God can see into the future and he did. He foresaw that the Jews will disobey him and announced what will happen to them- they will be punished. Terribly. But then they will be forgiven and restored. They will never be replaced. Do you suppose God to be a liar promising an eternal covenant to the Jews? Or is he not all knowing and didn't know what will happen in the future to change his mind?

Again where did God promise an eternal convenant to the jews
?
Even in the new testament Jesus Pbuh said clearly that God will
abandon the jews
and the jews understood clearly what he meant according to Mark's gospel

This is stated clearly in Mark 12
:

And he began to speak unto them in parables. A man planted a vineyard, and set a hedge about it, and digged a pit for the winepress, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into another country.

2 And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruits of the vineyard.

3 And they took him, and beat him, and sent him away empty.

4 And again he sent unto them another servant; and him they wounded in the head, and handled shamefully.

5 And he sent another; and him they killed: and many others; beating some, and killing some.

6 He had yet one, a beloved son: he sent him last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son.

7 But those husbandmen said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours.

8 And they took him, and killed him, and cast him forth out of the vineyard.

9 What therefore will the lord of the vineyard do? he will come and destroy the husbandmen, and will give the vineyard unto others.

10 Have ye not read even this scripture: The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made the head of the corner;

11 This was from the Lord, And it is marvellous in our eyes?

12 And they sought to lay hold on him; and they feared the multitude; for they perceived that he spake the parable against them: and they left him, and went away

[3abd Arahman]

Ok, Mrs Claus , I'll answer you within few days insha Allah (If God wills)
The answer will take time from me to write so I prefer waiting till the weekend on Saturday

[3abd Arahman]

Mrs Claus, Would you please kindly wait till I finish my answer to all what you said before
?
The answer nto all hat you said needs a long time to write so wait till I finish and I'll give you the time that you need also

[3abd Arahman]

Now we have to organise the discussion so that we discuss only one point at a time
I can't continue the discussion discussing 100 points at a time
The first point that I would like to discuss is where did God make an everlasting promise to the jews that he will never abandon them so that you can't believe that the muslims now have replaced the jews
?
Then I'll show you that prophet Muhammad Pbuh has been clearly mentioned in
:
The old testament
The jewish apocrypha
The new testament
New Testament Apocrypha


Also since according to Deutromony 18
we can know whether a prophet is a true prophet or a liar from his prophecies, we can also have a look at the prophecies of the holy Quran and Prophet Muhammad Pbuh to see whether they turned out to be true or not

[3abd Arahman]

Now please answer this question and kindly don't discuss any other issues
:
Where did God promise the jews he will never abandon them
?

[3abd Arahman]

Mrs Claus , I hope you may receive this by e-mail and return again to continue our dialogue