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The writer goes on with his lies
MYTH:MUHAMMAD RAIDED CARAVANS TO RETRIEVE STOLEN PROPERTY
Oftenpeople captured in battle would be brought before the self-proclaimedprophet, where they would plead for their lives, arguing for example,that they would never have treated the Muslims that way. Thetraditions quite clearly portray Muhammad as largely unmoved by theirpleas, and ordering their deaths anyway, often by horrible means. Inone case he orders a man to be slain and tells him that Hell willtake care of the poor fellow's orphaned daughter.(Ishaq 459).
RESPONSE:
Anotherlie no surprising :
First: the page is 645
Second: There were seventy prisoners from the Meccan polythiests and onlythree were killed : Mutam ibn Adi , Uqba ibn Abi Muayt and Al Nadribn Al Harith.
Therest of the prisoners during, for example, the conquest of Mecca andduring the bani Al Mustaliq's war the prophet forgave the prisonersand let them go . So it is a Lie from the author to claim that allthe prisoners were killed!!! yet only three were killed in Badr
AsFor why they were killed both Uqba and Al Nadr were not justpersecuters of muslims in Mecca, cursers of the prophet, attackingthe prophet both physically and by toungue but there words and pleadscaused the uprise of the meccans against the prophet peace andblessings be upon him . They called for war and the death of themuslims and so the battle of Badr happened. Sirah ibn hisham vol 1page 610
theprophet never took revenge for himself:
NarratedAisha:
Wheneverthe Prophet (ﷺ)was given an option between two things, he used to select the easierof the tow as long as it was not sinful; but if it was sinful, hewould remain far from it. By Allah, he never took revenge for himselfconcerning any matter that was presented to him, but when Allah'sLimits were transgressed, he would take revenge for Allah's Sake.
SaheehAbukhary Book 86 hadeeth 15
Asfor the hell being for Uqba's dauther, If the writer have actuallyspents a little amount of time reading the book of ibn hisham hewould have known that the referance was not for his daughter ratherhis boys , since his daughter (Um Kulthum was a muslim!!!) . Yeschristians the daughter of this infidel was happy for the death ofher infidel father and believed in the prophet peace and blessings beupon him.
Continuingwith the lias
MYTH:MUHAMMAD DIDN'T KILL CAPTIVES
Fromraids on caravans the Muslim army proceeded to their first majorbattle, the Battle of Badr. This was where the Meccans had sent theirown army to protect their caravans. Although Muslims today like toclaim that they only attack in self-defence, this was clearly not thecase in Muhammad's time. In fact Muhammad had to compel his reluctantwarriors with promises of paradise and assurances that their religionwas more important than the lives of others.
RESPONSE:
I already answeredthis above which I will repeat :
the narration recounts the fact that muslim s were tortured,exiled,killed and persecuted which is why the revelation was revieled,which by the way did not mention attacking carvans but the versegavethe prophet and the believers the right to defend themselvesbecausethey were persecuted :
Permission[tofight] has been given to those who are being fought, because theywerewronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give themvictory.
[Theyare]those who have been evicted from their homes without right -onlybecause they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were itnot thatAllah checks the people, some by means of others, therewould havebeen demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, andmosques inwhich the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah willsurelysupport those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exaltedin Might.
Quran22:39-40
the raids were to recover what was taken from the muslims moneyasindicated above :
theraiding on the caravans were not for no reason as the lyingauthorsuggests . The meccan stole and took all of the wealth, homesandproperties of the Migrant muslims to Madina , one example :AbuSufyan taking the property and stealing the wealth of themuslimsfrom the clan of Banu Jahsh . Sirah ibn Hisham vol 1 page500.
Now lets see howprisoners were delt in Islam and how they were delt according to thebible :
1. mranb. Husain reported that the tribe of Thaqif was the ally of Banu'Uqail. Thaqif took two persons from amongst the Companiobs ofAllah's Messenger (ﷺ)as prisoners. The Campanions of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)took one person at Banu Uqail as prisoner, and captured al-'Adbi (theshe-camel of the Holy Prophet) along with him. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)came to him and he was tied with ropes. He said:
Muhammad.He came near him and said: What is the matter with you? Thereupon he(the prisoner) said: Why have you taken me as prisoner and why haveyou caught hold of one proceeding the pilgrims (the she-camel as shecarried the Prophet on her back and walked ahead of the multitude)?He (the Holy Prophet) said: (Yours is a great fault). I (my men) havecaught hold of you for the crime of your allies, Banu Thaqif. He (theHoly Prophet) then turned away. He again called him and said:Muhammad, Muhammad, and since Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)was very compassionate, and tenderhearted, he returned to him, andsaid: What is the matter with you? He said: I am a Muslim, whereuponhe (the Holy Prophet) said: Had you said this when you had been themaster of yourself, you would have gained every success. He thenturned away. He (the prisoner) called him again saying: Muhammad,Muhammad. He came to him and said: What is the matter with you? Hesaid: I am hungry, feed me, and I am thirsty, so provide me withdrink. He (the Holy Prophet) said: That is (to satisfy) your want. Hewas then ransomed for two persons (who had been taken prisoner byThaqif). He (the narrator) said: A woman of the Ansar had been takenprisoner and also al-Adbi' was caught. The woman had been tied withropes. The people were giving rest to their animals before theirhouses. She escaped one night from the bondage and came to thecamels. As she drew near the camels, they fretted and fumed and soshe left them until she came to al-, Adbi'. It did not fret and fume;it was docile She rode upon its back and drove it away and she wentoff. When they (the enemies of Islam) were warned of this, they wentin search of it, but it (the she-camel) exhausted them. She (thewoman) took vow for Allah, that in case He would save her through it,she would offer that as a sacrifice. As she reached Medina, thepeople saw her and they said: Here is al-Adbi, the she-camel ofAllah's Messanger (ﷺ).She (the woman) said that she had taken a vow that if Allah wouldsave her on its back, she would sacrifice it. They (the Prophet'sCompanions) came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)and made a mention of that to him, whereupon he said: Hallowed beAllah, how ill she rewarded it that she took vow to Allah that if Hesaves her on its back, she would sacrifice it! There is no fulfilmentof the vow in an act of disobedience, nor in an act over which aperson has no control. In the version of Ibn Hujr (the words are):"There is no vow in disobedience to Allah."
Saheeh Muslim book26 hadeeth 11
2. NarratedAbuRafi':
TheQuraysh sent me to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ),and when I saw the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ),Islam was cast into my heart, so I said: Messenger of Allah, I swearby Allah, I shall never return to them. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)replied: I do not break a covenant or imprison messengers, butreturn, and if you feel the same as you do just now, come back. So Iwent away, and then came to the Prophet (ﷺ)and accepted Islam.
Thenarrator Bukair said: He informed me that Abu Rafi' was a Copt.
AbuDawud said: This was valid in those days, but today it is not valid.
Sunan abu dawudbook 15 hadeeth 282
3. Ithas been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira who said:
TheMessenger of Allah (ﷺ)sent some horsemen to Najd. They captured a man. He was from thetribe of Banu Hanifa and was called Thumama b. Uthal. He was thechief of the people of Yamama. People bound him with one of thepillars of the mosque. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)came out to (see) him. He said: O Thumama, what do you think? Hereplied: Muhammad, I have good opinion of you. If you kill me, youwill kill a person who has spilt blood. If you do me a favour, youwill do a favour to a grateful person. If you want wealth, ask andyou will get what you will demand. The Messenger of Allah (may peacebe pon him) lefthim (in this condition) for two days, (and came tohim again) and said: What do you think, O Thumama? He replied: What Ihave already told you. If you do a favour, you will do a favour to agrateful person. If you kill me, you will kill a person who has spiltblood. If you want wealth, ask and you will get what you will demand.The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)left him until the next day when he (came to him again) and said:What do you think, O Thumama? He replied: What I have already toldyou. If you do me a favour, you will do a favour to a gratefulperson. If you kill me, you will kill a person who has spilt blood.If you want wealth ask and you will get what you will demand. TheMessenger of Allah (ﷺ)said: Set Thumama free. He went to a palm-grove near the mosque andtook a bath. Then he entered the mosque and said: I bear testimony(to the truth) that there is no god but Allah and I testify thatMuhammad is His bondman and His messenger. O Muhammad, by Allah,there was no face on the earth more hateful to me than your face, but(now) your face has become to me the dearest of all faces. By Allah,there was no religion more hateful to me than your religion, but(now) your religion has become the dearest of all religions to me. ByAllah, there was no city more hateful to me than your city, but (now)your city has become the dearest of all cities to me. Your horsemencaptured me when I intended going for Umra. Now what is your opinion(in the matter)? The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)announced good tidings to him and told him to go on 'Umra. When hereached Mecca, somebody said to him: Have you changed your religion?He said: No! I have rather embraced Islam with the Messenger of Allah(ﷺ).By Allah, you will not get a single grain of wheat from Yamama untilit is permitted by the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ).
Saheeh Muslim book32 hadeeth 70
Lets now look atthe bible :
1.
51 Davidran and stood over him. He took hold of the Philistine’s sword anddrew it from the sheath. After he killed him, he cut off hishead with the sword.
When the Philistines saw that their hero was dead, they turned andran. 52 Thenthe men of Israel and Judah surged forward with a shout and pursuedthe Philistines to the entrance of Gath[f] andto the gates of Ekron. Their dead were strewn along theShaaraim road to Gath and Ekron. 53 Whenthe Israelites returned from chasing the Philistines, they plunderedtheir camp.
54 Davidtook the Philistine’s head and brought it to Jerusalem; he put thePhilistine’s weapons in his own tent.
Samuel 14: 51-54
40 ThenElijah commanded them, “Seize the prophets of Baal. Don’t letanyone get away!” They seized them, and Elijah had them broughtdown to the Kishon Valleyandslaughteredthere.
1Kings 18: 40
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