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Man cannot become God, but God did become man in Christ Jesus. It is written in Him dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Blessed are those who see this.
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Burninglight
Man cannot become God, but God did become man in Christ Jesus. It is written in Him dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Blessed are those who see this.
That is a claim (which contradicts the OT) where is the proof ????
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محمد سني 1989
That is a claim (which contradicts the OT) where is the proof ????
The people in the OT times weren't Christians because Jesus hadn't come. However, before Jesus physically came, I assure you He was always there as the spirit of God's word and from the foundations of the earth He is God. Did not God say, "Let us make man in our image and likeness?"
The OT is not contradicted by the fullness of God being in Christ, but rather fulfilled as Jesus said He came to fulfill the law and all the prophets. Through Christ, Christians also fulfill all the law and the prophets. God's greatest commands to us is to love God with all our being and our neighbor as our self. In fact, we are commanded to even love our enemies. This love of God is absent in Islam. The NT Bible states without love we have nothing. As the Quran states, and I agree, you will not believe what I believe; so, to you be your religion and to me be mine!
Peace
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Burninglight
The people in the OT times weren't Christians because Jesus hadn't come. However, before Jesus physically came, I assure you He was always there as the spirit of God's word and from the foundations of the earth He is God. Did not God say, "Let us make man in our image and likeness?"
The OT is not contradicted by the fullness of God being in Christ, but rather fulfilled as Jesus said He came to fulfill the law and all the prophets. Through Christ, Christians also fulfill all the law and the prophets. God's greatest commands to us is to love God with all our being and our neighbor as our self. In fact, we are commanded to even love our enemies. This love of God is absent in Islam. The NT Bible states without love we have nothing. As the Quran states, and I agree, you will not believe what I believe; so, to you be your religion and to me be mine!
Peace
Where in this entire response is the answer to my question
The statement let us is a majestic plurality used in Hebrew grammer and other semetic languages ( also the arabic) in order to refer to one person in plurality as a method of glorification and holiness
peace
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Originally Posted by
محمد سني 1989
Where in this entire response is the answer to my question
The statement let us is a majestic plurality used in Hebrew grammer and other semetic languages ( also the arabic) in order to refer to one person in plurality as a method of glorification and holiness
peace
You mean as Muslims say when Allah says "We have sent down the torah and the gospel..." The royal "We" What Scripture do you give to support this in the Bible and the Quran for that matter?
I answered your question by showing the Christian claim of God's tri unity doesn't contradict the OT and that Jesus is the fulfillment of the OT. I told you that Jesus pre existed as the word of God eternal and uncreated; therefore, He was and is co equal with the father and had glory with Him before the world was or any was created. It is you who evades my question about explaining the absolute oneness of God you claim.
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Burninglight
You mean as Muslims say when Allah says "We have sent down the torah and the gospel..." The royal "We" What Scripture do you give to support this in the Bible and the Quran for that matter?
I answered your question by showing the Christian claim of God's tri unity doesn't contradict the OT and that Jesus is the fulfillment of the OT. I told you that Jesus pre existed as the word of God eternal and uncreated; therefore, He was and is co equal with the father and had glory with Him before the world was or any was created. It is you who evades my question about explaining the absolute oneness of God you claim.
Stating that he came to fullfill means to apply the OT we have different meanings of it , BUT it does NOT indicate trinity in anyway
The royal we existed in semetic languages :
Of (c): the pluralis excellentiae or maiestatis, as has been remarked above, is properly a variety of the abstract plural, since it sums up the several characteristics belonging to the idea, besides possessing the secondary sense of an intensification of the original idea. It is thus closely related to the plurals of amplification, treated under e, which are mostly found in poetry.
Wilhelm Gesenius,
Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar/124
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محمد سني 1989
Stating that he came to fullfill means to apply the OT we have different meanings of it , BUT it does NOT indicate trinity in anyway
The royal we existed in semetic languages :
Of (c): the pluralis excellentiae or maiestatis, as has been remarked above, is properly a variety of the abstract plural, since it sums up the several characteristics belonging to the idea, besides possessing the secondary sense of an intensification of the original idea. It is thus closely related to the plurals of amplification, treated under e, which are mostly found in poetry.
Wilhelm Gesenius,
Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar/124
The Bible says knowledge is puffed up, and that man's wisdom is foolishness to God. You didn't answer my question about explaining the perfect oneness of God you claim. What does that look like to a Muslim? Muslims always challenge us with the trinity and we try the best we can to explain, but I haven't heard a Muslims' explanation of Allah's perfect oneness and what does strict monotheism mean in God's perfect oneness?
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Originally Posted by
محمد سني 1989
Stating that he came to fullfill means to apply the OT we have different meanings of it , BUT it does NOT indicate trinity in anyway
The royal we existed in semetic languages :
Of (c): the pluralis excellentiae or maiestatis, as has been remarked above, is properly a variety of the abstract plural, since it sums up the several characteristics belonging to the idea, besides possessing the secondary sense of an intensification of the original idea. It is thus closely related to the plurals of amplification, treated under e, which are mostly found in poetry.
Wilhelm Gesenius,
Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar/124
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