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Quote Originally Posted by pandora View Post
As already said it is not Adams sin we inherit but the sin nature.. Proof of that is the human condition, as we know no one is sinless (except for the Christ) every sin has a consequence, to ourselves, to those we sin against and to God.

Christianity teaches that we cannot atone for sin my our own efforts because we can never be as great and as good as God.. God knows this and through His divine mercy and love has given us the means to make ourselves righteous once more




Father, Son and Holy Spirit are essentially equal.. As they are all divine in nature. However, in the grand plan of redemption, they play certain roles, and these roles define authority and subservience. The Father commands the Son, and the Father and the Son command the Holy Spirit. Jesus said the Father is greater than I... Jesus commanded the Holy Spirit as he promised he would send the Spirit (comforter, advocate) in His name to guide the disciples. The father is supreme and neither the son (Word) or Spirit act contrary to Gods will.



***12My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14You are my friends if you do what I command. 15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. John 15 12:15 ***

***“We know that we live in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God. And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him. In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him. There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.” John 4:13-18***

peace unto you.

I realize now that we are in a place were you could ignore somebody's respponse and simply state something that is repeated

The idea of inheritting sin nature is obscured , the text clearly contradicts it:


12Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- 13for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
Romans 5: 12-14

14 clealry states that even those who were not sinful inherited the sin even at the time of moses peace be upon him the expression : Death in Adam , Life in Jesus



As for what you said about man cannot be forgiven by just repenting this contradicts the bible itself:
9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
Jonah 3: 9-10

the repentence of David WHICH CLEARLY DENIES THE EXISTENCE OF AN ACTUAL SACRIFICE FOR A REPENTECE:

15O Lord, open my lips, That my mouth may declare Your praise. 16For You do not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; You are not pleased with burnt offering.17The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise

Psalms 51: 15-17


As for following jesus : first Jesus never ever in the bible said anything about trinity your explanation is a claim only equil to the claims OF HINDUS AND TRINITARIAN PAGANS IN ANCIENT ROME AND EGYPT it is a complete pagan idea . or else why is it not there????
I you claim that trinity is monotheism then hundus would become monotheist , they believe in 33 million gods manafestation of the supreme god , 33 million !!!!

We are the true followers of jesus , although he never mentioned or reffered to trinity as quoted in the gospels he preached for the one god only:

24"Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." 25So they were saying to Him, "Who are You?" Jesus said to them, "What have I been saying to you from the beginning?26"I have many things to speak and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and the things which I heard from Him, these I speak to the world."

Jesus reafirms here that he is sent from god ESPECIALLY WHEN HE IS ASKED WHO HE IS So we are the followers of the prophet jesus peace be upon him NOT YOU .

I will answer the so called prophecies about crusifiction in a seperate post

peace