Very well , we'll wait for her to tell . As for my name , it's pronounced "Nasiir Addiin"="Ally of Religion (Islam in this case)" . You can refer to me as Nasiir or Ally if you like .
Thank you Nasiir. :)
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I feel it will go for a long time but still , I wouldn't be exagerraing if I say that Islam is the most forgiving religion there is , and at the same time , it's strict against evil doers . The Mongols invaded the Islamic lands until they reached Egypt and then were pushed back . What does that have to do with it ? Well , here's the surprise , they embraced the religion of the invaded , something I doubt happened at all in history . Islam teaches us to never assault a child , an old man , a woman , a worshiper , or a non fighting civillian in any case .
Still , things can indeed be black and white . There's a difference between forgiveness and letting someone step on your neck . Justice and truth need power . That's why there are many people around the world trying their hardest to fend the invaders off . If they don't , they either die or live miserably . I know that if we try to go into details we'll be doing it for a long time and so I'll keep it at this .
I agree this subject of forgiveness and how it is understood in our respective religions could indeed go on for a long time and may be better for a topic for a separate thread for a different time. Suffice to say that both sides of this coin value forgiveness as an important aspect of faith. Though it would seem that a great many do not seem to grasp this so simple of concepts.
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Not BORN evil ! I mean that it's simple and easy to say some are evil when we look at theri acts . Of course I'm not saying a person is born evil !
My bad.. I misunderstood your meaning. Whereas God can and does abhor the sin God loves the sinner. We would do well to attempt to emulate that and reflect it to those who sin against us. One of the lines in the prayer we start our day with is "forgive our trespasses as we will forgive those who trespass against us".
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I have a feeling that we won't agree which side is the evil one . So let's set it aside for now .
There are no sides where evil deeds occur. Evil does not respect the person and any person whatever "side" they find themselves on if they open their heart to committing an evil act then evil is only to willing to oblige and make it easy for them. Making it easy for them to excuse it for the greater good... Or whatever. But before God there is no distinction.. One cannot commit an evil deed and pass it off for the greater good of society or humanity.. We answer for the deed.. End of.
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And that's why it's a must for good men to stand up to it and stop it . And if it comes in force , it must be driven back by force . A sign was mentioned about this :
Not necessarily.. The pen is mightier than the sword. During the last World Wars there were men known as "conscientious objectors" they refused to fight in battle or kill another in the name of war... But would only serve their country by peaceful means. In the first WW many were shot as cowards, and although the 2nd WW, they may not have been shot but were still made to feel cowards. But who is the braver man? The one who takes the life of another in the theatre of war or the one that stands for what He believes is right according to his belief. God has destroyed cities and communities in His righteous wrath in the past times.. that is supreme justice. Jesus told us the meek shall inherit the earth... I sometimes wonder if people practiced forgiveness to the degree of Gods will and left the punishment of evil to Gods righteous wrath.. What would the world we live in be like?
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And because I KNOW someone out there will try to misquote this , I'll explain . Terrifying isn't bad intsefl . It can be for the good or the bad . The cop for instance casts terror in the heart of the criminal when going after him .
I agree that people casting terror into the hearts of others is part and parcel of life in the modern world. For sure society needs laws to operate a safe environment for all it's members. But this world we live in is transitory and is a blink of an eye to what we face for eternity. We are judged on our life before we hope to enter the hereafter.. I have confidence that God is just, and where it may be possible for the guilty to go free by twisting and corrupting the law to their will, and the innocent do not always receive the justice they deserve.. That is by the hand of man in dealing with the law. The ultimate judge is God.. And He is the only judge that counts.
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The charity you'r talking about is "Sadaqah" . The other one , the obligation , is because not everyone would help the poor . And in that case , they are obliged to because ultimately , all this wealth with the whole creation belongs to Allah . Thus , if someone is stingy or denying the poor and needy of that wealth , he is forced to give them . As for the underlined , that's a joke , right ? Because a prophecy has actually been fulfilled about it during the days of Umar bin Abdulaziz . The time to give Zakah comes , and they can't find anyone who needs it ! I'll try to look for the sources in English if you want them .Yes , it succeeded at times when the whole Islamic system is applied properly . There are off times and there are times when Sharia is refused completely and those are the darkest times . So in the end , yes , if it fails , it's the people that are at fault for not working with Islam in the first place .
No truly.. I was not making a joke. That it worked in the past is good.. What is bad is it can't be made to work in the world we live in today. That is down to the people.
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Well said . But did you actually know that the reason there are people suffering sever poverty is that there are who steal what their lands offer ? And they admit it too .
If the video doesn't show on the forum , try to look for "Global Wealth Inequal Distrubution and its causes"
Truly I do not need to see a video on "Global Greed" and inequality of the same. I know it exists. To say its the force of all poverty is stretching a bit. But a valid point never the less. The buck has to stop somewhere.. However, like evil.. Greed is no respecter of person and weather it be on a global scale by huge conglomerates or individuals the result is the same. Someone somewhere.. Suffers the consequences.
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I'm not sure I fully understand you so let's leave it aside for now .
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I may explain further on the other thread I started..
Originally Posted by نصير الدين
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