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What's the difference between that and prophets having miracles to show who they are ?
on one level.. Not a lot, in this particular miracle Jesus was not proving to mankind His validity as a prophet.. he was bringing to the understanding of the disciples of who He was. Which as per our belief was more than a prophet. We're going to differ here... Each to their own and all that.

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That's what we believe in Islam as well . Except the part of Christ peace upon him being one with Allah of course . Hardships , tough times , we are taught to always have faith and be pateint trying to be even the slightest like the prophets who endured countless sorts of harm .
thats fine, Christians identify more on a personal level with God, as Jesus taught us was possible. Jesus showed we could know God through Him.. At least a part of God... That we can understand.

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Good , and it's the same with prophets . Anyone can say he's a prophet but only through evidence can that be proved . There were also false prophets during the first years of the Islamic nation who were expoesed for different reasons .
interesting point.. Does the Quran tell you how to distinguish between a true and false prophet as the Bible does? I thought it claimed you should believe and trust in all prophets. We know false prophets can also have miracles and signs.. Not all miracles are from God.

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Ironically missing the point in honesty . Now let's put this Smith guy - who I don't know at all - aside and focus on the issue . First , it's not how I see things . This is an Islamic belief and a matter of faith . I did say that I won't go into the matter of corruption because I'm no expert . And I repeat again , when we believe that Islam is true through signs and evidence , we believe whatever it says as it cannot be wrong . Some might misunderstand and those of falsehood will surely make slanders , but that's what faith means . It's not a matter of blind belief . And please don't dive into stuff like "You can't prove your faith" because you'd be the same as what you describe of pot and kettle . Faith isn't wrong in itself . Blind faith is .
my faith is not blind.. It is based on the Spirit of truth that is God. I don't even need miracles or signs to know that. God wrote it on my heart. :) I am told to test the prophets so test them I will.. If they are found wanting. Then their message is not for me to follow. It's truth.. You can't prove faith.. Faith is what you have in the absence of logic. How can you ever hope for God and all God is to conform to human understanding and logic? So how can you prove to me that Islam is truth? Miracles and signs? Well the Bible has them in abundance.. The miracles attributed to Jesus alone are greater in number than all the prophets combined. How do you prove by today's scientific standards that those miracles happened? You can't so you take it on faith that they did and that faith is based on your intrinsic need for a divine being .. God.. That oversees all we are. Don't belittle faith over logic.. Logic and evidence can and could one day be disproven .. Faith is unshakable.

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And how come you don't accept this when Islam says it ?
never said I didn't accept it in Islam. I may have said the reasons in Islam as to why it happened may differ.. But the recording event itself I have no issues with.

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Financially , materially , bodily , you know what I mean .
financially.. No way as God does not deal in cash. materially.. Again doubtful.. As that implies storing up treasures on earth which do not benefit anyone in eternity. Bodily.. That may be pertinent.. Because as our time on earth we are body.. As that body contains our spirit and the spirit being the concern of God, then a miracle should be considered to hold some benefit to the body..
Weather it be bringing understanding of how best to live our lives ensuring our spirit returns to our creator in good state. Or the understanding through using our body, mind and spirit to best serve mankind and further enlightenment and understanding of God. I see that has a place and a benefit.

Peace to you.